Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LV

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The difference between Brodin extended and Brodin not extended is significant.
He'd be relatively cheap without an extension when compared to the price of what he'd cost with an extension, yes. Given the layout of the team and the expansion draft looming, it doesn't make sense to acquire him with an extension unless DeAngelo is dealt.
 
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He is not a UFA and I hope he is an option. 1 year left at $5MM and a full NMC. Cap hit is the issue. He was also the Coyotes best defenseman this year so I’m not sure how anxious They will be to move him. Depends on who they hire as GM. Would be perfect one year acquisition.
Looking a little deeper, Hjalmarsson’s 20-21 compensation is $2MM Bonus (probably paid already) and $2MM salary. Which probably means he isn’t going anywhere.
 
I hate to kick dirt on a fresh grave (who the he’ll am I kidding?) but Vegas losing will definitely help the prospects of a Rangers-VGK trade for DeAngelo.

IMO, Vegas doesn't need DeAngelo. They have Theodore/Schmidt.
 
Chytil is a big, skilled, strong skater that plays defense and is an excellent puck mover. What else do people want out of a center? :help:

There are a lot of quotable statements in this thread. Good, Bad, and straight up ugly.

I love your quote though. Chytil turned 21 like, a week ago.

He’s only going to get better. Scary thing is, with his skillset, size, and skating ability, he has the potential to reach a level that’s beyond your average 2C.

He had legit 1C potential. He can be a Zbad clone with his size and skill. But even if he falls short of his enormous ceiling, we’re still talking about a 50-60 point player that has size, speed, hands, and intangibles.
 
There are a lot of quotable statements in this thread. Good, Bad, and straight up ugly.

I love your quote though. Chytil turned 21 like, a week ago.

He’s only going to get better. Scary thing is, with his skillset, size, and skating ability, he has the potential to reach a level that’s beyond your average 2C.

He had legit 1C potential. He can be a Zbad clone with his size and skill. But even if he falls short of his enormous ceiling, we’re still talking about a 50-60 point player that has size, speed, hands, and intangibles.

I like Chytil, but he will never be a true number 1 c, he doesn't have Zibanejad potential, he has the possibility of being a 2c, but hasnt shown he can be yet. One huge issue with him right now is he is bad on faceoffs, if he doesn't clean that up he could end up as a winger and on this team I'd be really worried if I was him being labeled a winger with Kreider, Panarin, Kakko, Lafreniere, Buchnevich, Kravtsov, Barron(if he ends up a winger) etc already flanking the wings. Chytil has been good so far, hopefully he continues to improve as he is young enough, he has time.
 
They aren't going to take him if he refuses to sign with them. Really not that much of a gamble. How many pending UFAs did Vegas select? I'm pretty sure the answer is none.

Actually the Knights selected Chris Thorburn as a UFA from Winnipeg & were given the Jets first rounder in 2017 as the compensation/incentive. Think that was the pick they took Suzuki.

They're might have been others, but that's the only one I recall with certainty.
 
I like Chytil, but he will never be a true number 1 c, he doesn't have Zibanejad potential, he has the possibility of being a 2c, but hasnt shown he can be yet. One huge issue with him right now is he is bad on faceoffs, if he doesn't clean that up he could end up as a winger and on this team I'd be really worried if I was him being labeled a winger with Kreider, Panarin, Kakko, Lafreniere, Buchnevich, Kravtsov, Barron(if he ends up a winger) etc already flanking the wings. Chytil has been good so far, hopefully he continues to improve as he is young enough, he has time.

This isn't lacrosse.
 
Carolina 1st + Zac Jones would be an overpayment for Brodin and I don't think the Rangers would touch it

Carolina 1st + Andersson for Brodin with an extension in place that the Rangers like the numbers on would be closer to reality
 
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Carolina 1st + Zac Jones would be an overpayment for Brodin and I don't think the Rangers would touch it

Carolina 1st + Andersson for Brodin with an extension in place that the Rangers like the numbers on would be closer to reality
& wild would say no easily. this is a complete Joke
 
Why are we giving up 3 picks, including an unprotected first, so we can offer sheet Sergachev to a deal worth more money than any of his comparable players got last year at a time where the cap was expected to keep rising? He's not even the type of LD this team needs.

1. Fair question, but the simple answer is, I just think that he would be. He is behind Hedman and McDonagh in Tampa but I just see someone who now is ready to step up and play on a first pair. Log a lot of minutes if needed.

2. The biggest advantage with him is that we are not going to commit to any NTC/NMC (they are not allowed during his RFA years) for his next FOUR seasons. We need a top LD now. Will we want to pay for someone (that we select today) in 2/4/6 years? I am far from convinced of it. My biggest concern is getting locked up with NMCs/NTCs huge parts of the 2020s that we regret, not making marginally bad moves.

3. I am of the stance that dealing a 1st round pick with any thing more than a couple of months left of a season is really really risky, no matter if it’s unprotected or not (if you end up sucking the first year, what is there to say that you won’t suck the second?). So I of course think your point there is really strong. I’ve thought of it and my best reply would be to quote Slats about the mice/lions thing. ;)
 
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& wild would say no easily. this is a complete Joke
Hahahahaha

That's funny, because just a page or so ago there was a regular poster from the Wild forum insinuating that your takes were a joke; glad to see you here to prove him right!

Please humor us all with another joke while you are around and tell us what you think is an acceptable offer for Brodin
 
I’m in the Brodin camp . Needs to resign though

I think it would cost a haul though .. like 1st , Jones and Andersson ... that would hurt

Could just bite the bullet and hope Brodin hits ufa next season . Be patient this yesr
 
I’m in the Brodin camp . Needs to resign though

I think it would cost a haul though .. like 1st , Jones and Andersson ... that would hurt

Could just bite the bullet and hope Brodin hits ufa next season . Be patient this yesr

we are going to need to sign a dman anyway to meet the expansion draft exposure limits...most have been thinking a cheap depth guy who needs to play 20-25 games. but if the price is too high in a trade we could look at a better ufa as a stop gap until other options are available...of course assuming we have the cap space for such a move.
 
Carolina 1st + Zac Jones would be an overpayment for Brodin and I don't think the Rangers would touch it

Carolina 1st + Andersson for Brodin with an extension in place that the Rangers like the numbers on would be closer to reality

I don't think 22 and Lias gets you Brodin with an extension unless the Wild really love Lias for some reason.
 
I like Krebs as a prospect quite a bit. I'm not sure I like him enough to be the centerpiece of a DeAngelo deal though. Earlier in the year I thought Tuch and Krebs for DeAngelo and Georgiev would be interesting for them but that was pre-Lehner and and also prior to Tuch having a strong playoff.

Just have a hard time seeing Gorton dealing a guy who was top-5 in scoring from the blue line for a completely unproven quantity. It also goes against the insight from Edge that the Rangers probably aren't looking to deal roster players for picks and prospects.
 
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Mrrrrrr. Krebs
Listen, I ain't gonna get f***ed like Gribbs, understand? Gribbs is 70 years old, and the f***in' guy's gonna die in prison. I don't need that. So I'm warning everybody, EVERYBODY. It could be my son, it could be anybody. Gribbs got 20 years just for saying "hello" to some f*** who was sneaking behind his back selling junk. I don't need that. Ain't gonna happen to me, you understand?
 
There are a lot of quotable statements in this thread. Good, Bad, and straight up ugly.

I love your quote though. Chytil turned 21 like, a week ago.

He’s only going to get better. Scary thing is, with his skillset, size, and skating ability, he has the potential to reach a level that’s beyond your average 2C.

He had legit 1C potential. He can be a Zbad clone with his size and skill. But even if he falls short of his enormous ceiling, we’re still talking about a 50-60 point player that has size, speed, hands, and intangibles.

Yup. And I’m amazed how we have a segment of posters who can’t clearly see it.

I mean if the Rangers REALLY reached with their 7oa and picked Chytil instead of Andersson, would there be anyone at this point who’d argue with this choice?
 
I like Chytil, but he will never be a true number 1 c, he doesn't have Zibanejad potential, he has the possibility of being a 2c, but hasnt shown he can be yet. One huge issue with him right now is he is bad on faceoffs, if he doesn't clean that up he could end up as a winger and on this team I'd be really worried if I was him being labeled a winger with Kreider, Panarin, Kakko, Lafreniere, Buchnevich, Kravtsov, Barron(if he ends up a winger) etc already flanking the wings. Chytil has been good so far, hopefully he continues to improve as he is young enough, he has time.

Stopped reading after bolded.

Never use “never” so one day you don’t feel stupid reading your own old takes.
 
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