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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LIII

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I like Danault, though I'm not sure I would move Buch until I had a better idea of what we have on the right wing, and I probably wouldn't add to the deal.

I feel like by the time the Rangers would be in the best position to enjoy and benefit from what Danault brings, he'll be an UFA and on the cusp of 30.
 
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Unless Danault is coming with some kind of extension, I'm not trading Buch for him. There needs to be some kind of term for him. Even if it is a short term deal adding a year or two on. Trading for a UFA to be center with one of our only NHL level trading chips would not be something I would be interested in. Need some assurance that it would not be a 1 and done deal.

UFA centers after this upcoming season will be Danault and RNH. The others are older players that are 34+ when signing a deal. He'd need to sign a contract extension with the Rangers before I pull the trigger on that deal.
 
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GoAwayStaal said:
why?
Danault is better and a better fit for this team.
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I prefer Domi, so I don't agree. He is two years younger, RFA controlled for another two seasons, and has the ability to be much more. He's already shown what he is capable in the 18-19 season. I think the Rangers are built in a way that would maximize his potential.

Danault will be a 28 year old UFA next summer. He's a solid player, and perhaps he fits the type of player the Rangers should try and acquire, but the age and contract situation does not align well. It puts the Rangers in a position where they have to commit longer term to a player into his 30s, with little time to show he's worth it here, or lose him via UFA.
 
Danault is 27 and essentially a support player. We likely won't give him the kind of money he'll want to avoid UFA. And now that we actually have a very young core that may get PAID in a few years, we can't be giving out 3-5m on support players. If we're not willing to pay Fast 4x4 (nor should we), we're not doing that for Danault.
 
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he’s going to cost more in a short while. So many kids will come due for raises at the same time. Tough to budget
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Well, the hypothetical trade was Buchnevich and a prospect for Danault. If that was for Domi instead to come here and be the 2C, it would probably mean Strome is also out the door. That's enough salary moving out to pay Domi on a 3-4 year contract. A contract like that is not long enough to hinder the team long term.
 
bbny said:
Well, the hypothetical trade was Buchnevich and a prospect for Danault. If that was for Domi instead to come here and be the 2C, it would probably mean Strome is also out the door. That's enough salary moving out to pay Domi on a 3-4 year contract. A contract like that is not long enough to hinder the team long term.
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true, taking those two out helps.
 
This is the thing. You’re going to have to move Kreider to RW which is no problem. He’s not going to be on the third line.

So I know for sure Kreider and Kakko are my long term top 2 RWs

That’s enough for me to move Buchnevich. I’m certainly not paying him his next contract. Which is Due next summer.

I have Kravtsov I have Gauthier. I’m totally fine moving Buchy for center help.
 
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Kovalev27 said:
This is the thing. You’re going to have to move Kreider to RW which is no problem. He’s not going to be on the third line.

So I know for sure Kreider and Kakko are my long term top 2 RWs

That’s enough for me to move Buchnevich. I’m certainly not paying him his next contract. Which is Due next summer.

I have Kravtsov I have Gauthier. I’m totally fine moving Buchy for center help.
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This team doesn't really have enough depth for me to feel comfortable doing that right now. I'd like to see Gauthier score his first NHL goal and a few more than that before I feel good about penciling him in for a full time spot
 
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bbny said:
I prefer Domi, so I don't agree. He is two years younger, RFA controlled for another two seasons, and has the ability to be much more. He's already shown what he is capable in the 18-19 season. I think the Rangers are built in a way that would maximize his potential.

Danault will be a 28 year old UFA next summer. He's a solid player, and perhaps he fits the type of player the Rangers should try and acquire, but the age and contract situation does not align well. It puts the Rangers in a position where they have to commit longer term to a player into his 30s, with little time to show he's worth it here, or lose him via UFA.
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He is what he is at this point.

The age and control are really the only pluses he has in his book. Hes bad defensively in a system that is hard to be really bad in defensively. I wouldn't trade for anyone with a year left on their deal with out an extension in place FWIW, so the lose him to UFA thing is null and void for me.

It's 2 years age difference and 1 year difference in control and you could argue that locking Domi up long term would cost more and come with more risk. Danault actually has fewer NHL miles on his body despite the age difference and has been a more consistent performer. Domi had the big year last season, and then regressed to what he has been for most of his career (Pro-Stromers, take note.)
 
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He is what he is at this point.

The age and control are really the only pluses he has in his book. Hes bad defensively in a system that is hard to be really bad in defensively. I wouldn't trade for anyone with a year left on their deal with out an extension in place FWIW, so the lose him to UFA thing is null and void for me.

It's 2 years age difference and 1 year difference in control and you could argue that locking Domi up long term would cost more and come with more risk. Danault actually has fewer NHL miles on his body despite the age difference and has been a more consistent performer. Domi had the big year last season, and then regressed to what he has been for most of his career (Pro-Stromers, take note.)
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We could have said the same thing about Zibanejad at 25 years old when he was a 50 point player.

You are committing to Danault probably well into his 30s before he plays a minute here, because I don't imagine he'd sign a 2-3 year extension when he can get more via UFA. That's a big gamble by a team that needs to be very conscientious about longer term commitments.
 
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