Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LI

[JimmyG89]

Danault was not happy that his role in Montreal changed during the playoffs. We've been on the Domi train for a while, but is it possible to make a move for him? Danault is a solid offensive player, but is very strong defensively. We could definitely use him moving forward, especially for the next few seasons.

I would definitely see if Montreal is looking to move him out. Kotkaniemi and Suzuki will be their top 6 centers for a while. Whether it be for pieces or a player swap (possibly Buchnevich). One year left, probably look to get him extended for a few more seasons. Good cap hit. 50 point center sliding behind Zibanejad and in front of Chytil, lets Fil grow into eventually taking that job OR gives the team incredible center depth 1-3 if Chytil takes off.

There is a top 6 role available in Montreal. Drouin, Gallagher, and Tatar are their top 6 wingers. Tatar has 1 year left on his deal. Gallagher has 1. Buchnevich could be a guy they get signed for a longer term piece. I'm the last guy that wants to trade him, but we need a center and so many wingers are going to take his role when this team is contending.

Updated: Year's left on deals, probably look to short term Danault if they can

 

[East Coast Bias]

Danault was not happy that his role in Montreal changed during the playoffs. We've been on the Domi train for a while, but is it possible to make a move for him? Danault is a solid offensive player, but is very strong defensively. We could definitely use him moving forward, especially for the next few seasons.

I would definitely see if Montreal is looking to move him out. Kotkaniemi and Suzuki will be their top 6 centers for a while. Whether it be for pieces or a player swap (possibly Buchnevich). Would pretty much be for the duration of his deal, which is two years. Good cap hit. 50 point center sliding behind Zibanejad and in front of Chytil, lets Fil grow into eventually taking that job OR gives the team incredible center depth 1-3 if Chytil takes off.

There is a top 6 role available in Montreal. Drouin, Gallagher, and Tatar are their top 6 wingers. Tatar has 1 year left on his deal. Gallagher has 2. Buchnevich could be a guy they get signed for a longer term piece. I'm the last guy that wants to trade him, but we need a center and so many wingers are going to take his role when this team is contending.

Agree with all of this but he has 1 year left, not two. At least according to cap friendly.

 

[bobbop]

Here's an interesting question- to what degree is NYR's relatively weak depth at center to blame for our poor defensive performance?

Certainly Chytil, McKegg, and Howden cannot have done us many favors defensively while playing C. Strome is considered a somewhat weak defender despite time on the PK.

Also- I don't think we made a move for Gauthier to play him on the 4th line indefinitely. I think he gets a real shot this next season, especially if Fast departs.

It's a pretty big factor. Mika has his moments too.

 

[JimmyG89]

Agree with all of this but he has 1 year left, not two. At least according to cap friendly.

I hate that they have not moved everything over just yet. Thanks for the correction

 

[bobbop]

Danault was not happy that his role in Montreal changed during the playoffs. We've been on the Domi train for a while, but is it possible to make a move for him? Danault is a solid offensive player, but is very strong defensively. We could definitely use him moving forward, especially for the next few seasons.

I would definitely see if Montreal is looking to move him out. Kotkaniemi and Suzuki will be their top 6 centers for a while. Whether it be for pieces or a player swap (possibly Buchnevich). Would pretty much be for the duration of his deal, which is two years. Good cap hit. 50 point center sliding behind Zibanejad and in front of Chytil, lets Fil grow into eventually taking that job OR gives the team incredible center depth 1-3 if Chytil takes off.

There is a top 6 role available in Montreal. Drouin, Gallagher, and Tatar are their top 6 wingers. Tatar has 1 year left on his deal. Gallagher has 2. Buchnevich could be a guy they get signed for a longer term piece. I'm the last guy that wants to trade him, but we need a center and so many wingers are going to take his role when this team is contending.

Love Danault. During the playoffs I said to myself once or twice I wish the Rangers had him. Would be the ideal #3 center on a very good team.

 

[Graves94]

Danault has 1 year left on his deal before becoming UFA. Solid 2 way player, but will be difficult to get since he's a francophone player and the organization doesn't have many of those and fans love him...

 

[BobMarleyNYR]

Here's an interesting question- to what degree is NYR's relatively weak depth at center to blame for our poor defensive performance?

Certainly Chytil, McKegg, and Howden cannot have done us many favors defensively while playing C. Strome is considered a somewhat weak defender despite time on the PK.

Also- I don't think we made a move for Gauthier to play him on the 4th line indefinitely. I think he gets a real shot this next season, especially if Fast departs.

You COULD argue Strome is better at D than offense (even this past season). His approach is very general... Chytil always drifts right but is awesome defensively... so is McKegg. So, I think Staal and Smith have seen their day... DeAngelo will never figure it out defensively if he hasn't begun to... I truly think coaching AND management never and still don't envision a long-term future with him here.

I'm very much about baiting a 2C and 2nd rounder, plus, for TDA (not 'ADA,' that's the Americans with Disabilities Act) and a top-4 LD for Strome... draft too risky for a win now C... but don't forget, that little clown WOULD'VE held out all season had Fox not been just as good... he grew on me till he started popping shit again... "send him back" to Tampa, where they like inciting violence. Give us Hedman. No opinion stated, athletes don't bitch at fans in the NY I know.

100% agreed on Gauthier. In fact, I think they'll try him with Strome(?) and the Breadman, starting Laf with Kakko and Chytil, who's becoming the "break-in" guy.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

my bet is Rangers get something for Fast at the draft. his rights get the Rangers an extra pick. no way Rangers let him go without getting something back even if not of any real type of value if they don't want too overpay or resign him.

His rights aren't worth much of anything at all.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Danault was not happy that his role in Montreal changed during the playoffs. We've been on the Domi train for a while, but is it possible to make a move for him? Danault is a solid offensive player, but is very strong defensively. We could definitely use him moving forward, especially for the next few seasons.

I would definitely see if Montreal is looking to move him out. Kotkaniemi and Suzuki will be their top 6 centers for a while. Whether it be for pieces or a player swap (possibly Buchnevich). Would pretty much be for the duration of his deal, which is two years. Good cap hit. 50 point center sliding behind Zibanejad and in front of Chytil, lets Fil grow into eventually taking that job OR gives the team incredible center depth 1-3 if Chytil takes off.

There is a top 6 role available in Montreal. Drouin, Gallagher, and Tatar are their top 6 wingers. Tatar has 1 year left on his deal. Gallagher has 2. Buchnevich could be a guy they get signed for a longer term piece. I'm the last guy that wants to trade him, but we need a center and so many wingers are going to take his role when this team is contending.

Danault is definitely the player out of Montreal I’d be most interested in.

 

[gravey9]

Danault has 1 year left on his deal before becoming UFA. Solid 2 way player, but will be difficult to get since he's a francophone player and the organization doesn't have many of those and fans love him...

Actually, we likely have a young Francophoner joining the org in a month and half. Maybe it makes sense...

But yeah, due to him coming up on UFA I don't see teams willing to give up a ton. He's basically a rental.

 

[Kovalev27]

Love Danault. During the playoffs I said to myself once or twice I wish the Rangers had him. Would be the ideal #3 center on a very good team.

except that he doesn’t see himself as such and is complaining about it. He wants to be a top 6 guy

he’s an intriguing player for us because we really do lack defensively up front. Putting him with Panarin and Kakko would be really interesting.

the biggest problem with him is that he only has a year left on his deal. If he puts up 60 plus pts with Panarin and a selke type season likes he’s capable of we can’t pay him.

 

[Vitto79]

Danault is definitely the player out of Montreal I’d be most interested in.

I’d want to resign a guy to a longer deal since next year is still a rebuild one to me

 

[Ola]

Some speculation coming up, but I think that William Nylander to NYR could be more likely than what we believe.

We know that Gorton had a big interest in Willy Nylander in the past. These things are often long processes.

I am not Nyls’ biggest fan, I’ve always been skeptical of Toronto trading him, and I am also afraid of us becoming unbalanced by having too many offensive first players.

But Alex Pieterangelo to Toronto has been on the map forever. Home town kid. The fact that STL traded for and signed Faulk. Piets not resigning there. Plays like/love STL, why does Piets want to move on? If not to go to Toronto?

That means that Toronto must make space for him.

Even if Nylander is moved, there will be many suitors, why us? The thing is, Toronto can of course not take money back. And, Toronto cannot really deal him straight up for a younger prospect on an ELC that can play, because that kid is about to get paid too soon. Toronto — must — have a 3-year plan to survive the flat cap. They have no money coming of the cap. Very little space to fill out the roster with. And, that Robertson center they drafted does look really good...

We should have several pieces that should be attractive to them:

*Brendan Lemieux is one. I would hate losing him, but at the same time, from my POV he is value because he can provide grit potentially in the top 9, we don’t have room for him in the top 9. Many others can provide grit on the 4th line.

*You always need depth Ds. We have a glut of young Ds. Robertson is one. Hajak? He is closer today than he was 1-2 years ago. Really don’t want to trade Lindgren, but at the same time, might be lost in expansion anyway...

*Andersen is a UFA in 1 year. Will he get a raise from 5m? Can Toronto afford him? Or do they want to gamble on someone cheaper? I don’t think Campbell is that guy. Would they still have interest in Georgiev?

We also have Lias of course and the RW logjam (Buch/Kakko/Kravy/Gauthier).

I wouldn’t at all rule out that we could find a deal for Nyls that wouldn’t cause nose bleeds for Gorton. Like:

Nylander, and
Campbell

for

Geo,
Lemieux,
Buch @50%,
Robertson/Hajak, and
2021 1st (lottery protected)

Or, you know, something along those lines.

 

[Savant]

If Danault is available that’s the move.

 

[Kovalev27]

You COULD argue Strome is better at D than offense (even this past season). His approach is very general... Chytil always drifts right but is awesome defensively... so is McKegg. So, I think Staal and Smith have seen their day... DeAngelo will never figure it out defensively if he hasn't begun to... I truly think coaching AND management never and still don't envision a long-term future with him here.

I'm very much about baiting a 2C and 2nd rounder, plus, for TDA (not 'ADA,' that's the Americans with Disabilities Act) and a top-4 LD for Strome... draft too risky for a win now C... but don't forget, that little clown WOULD'VE held out all season had Fox not been just as good... he grew on me till he started popping shit again... "send him back" to Tampa, where they like inciting violence. Give us Hedman. No opinion stated, athletes don't bitch at fans in the NY I know.

100% agreed on Gauthier. In fact, I think they'll try him with Strome(?) and the Breadman, starting Laf with Kakko and Chytil, who's becoming the "break-in" guy.

Strome gets his doors blown off defensively almost nightly

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Strome gets his doors blown off defensively almost nightly

Seriously

Strome exists to score points, he does literally nothing else well

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

except that he doesn’t see himself as such and is complaining about it. He wants to be a top 6 guy

he’s an intriguing player for us because we really do lack defensively up front. Putting him with Panarin and Kakko would be really interesting.

the biggest problem with him is that he only has a year left on his deal. If he puts up 60 plus pts with Panarin and a selke type season likes he’s capable of we can’t pay him.

I'd extend him ASAP.

He won't break the bank and is a really, really good player.

Him and Kulak would be, as @DanielBrassard likes to say, BASED.

 

[Tawnos]

Here's an interesting question- to what degree is NYR's relatively weak depth at center to blame for our poor defensive performance?

Certainly Chytil, McKegg, and Howden cannot have done us many favors defensively while playing C. Strome is considered a somewhat weak defender despite time on the PK.

Also- I don't think we made a move for Gauthier to play him on the 4th line indefinitely. I think he gets a real shot this next season, especially if Fast departs.

I think Chytil, and probably Howden, are decent bets to turn into good defensive players as time goes on. Remember that someone like Hayes wasn't that good defensively when he came into the league, but he became fantastic. To me, both of those guys have the capability to grow into solid defensive play. Still probably some growing pains to go through.

But yes... I personally think that many of our defensive issues, even since the end of AVs tenure, have to do with forward execution, especially from our centers, in the defensive zone. To me, it's as big of a problem, maybe even bigger, than what our defensemen are doing. But a lot of young teams have this problem. Hopefully, it'll be fixed organically here.

I think we made a move for Gauthier to get another forward in the system. It's the same reason we signed the 3 college UDFAs. Hoping to get some young NHLers on cheap contracts. Gauthier is going to get every chance to prove himself... but not because they wanted to acquire him, but because there's the ice time available for him to grab.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Get Danault

perfect Strome replacement

 

[Tawnos]

I'd definitely be interested in Danault if Strome was headed out, somewhere. If that's not happening, I'd rather not.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

I'd definitely be interested in Danault if Strome was headed out, somewhere. If that's not happening, I'd rather not.

Send him to Siberia

 

[Tawnos]

Send him to Siberia

I actually like Strome a lot, but I want to make sure the opportunity exists for Chytil to move up the lineup.

 

[Kovalev27]

You could get Danault for a first round pick and a B prospect today I’m sure. And we certainly have the assets to do it and can probably recoup them by moving Strome but that next contract could be tough.

having said that having some experience and defensive/gritty acumen in the middle of what will be an explosive young lineup could give you a lot of what you’re missing

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Ranger fan: I have blue eyes.

Ranger fan: I have brown eyes.

MAKE UP YOUR MINDS RANGER FANS

Isn’t that a line from a New Order song?

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Isn’t that a line from a New Order song?

That’s a stretch but worth it to reference temptation