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Speculation: Roster Building Thread Part IX: Can't take Staal away from AV

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Gardner McKay said:
I am assuming the question was us acquiring another C. If that is the question, Duchene is not the BEST answer. That would be MacKinnon. Problem is, I don't think MacKinnon is worth anywhere what Joe Sakic would want for him.
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I mean, neither is Duchene :P
 
Marc Staal to Denver for Carl Söderberg
Nick Holden to Toronto for a 3rd round pick
NYR 2019 second Rounder plus Bo Nieves to Detroit for Andreas Athanasiou

Kreider - Zib - Buch
Nash - AA - Zuch
Vesey - Hayes - Miller
Grabner - Soderberg - Fast

DD

McD - Shattenkirk
Skjei - Smith
Graves - ADA/Kampfer
 
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Gardner McKay said:
I am assuming the question was us acquiring another C. If that is the question, Duchene is not the BEST answer. That would be MacKinnon. Problem is, I don't think MacKinnon is worth anywhere what Joe Sakic would want for him.
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Agreed on all of that, but, I would say that Duchene would be an upgrade on Hayes. The problem becomes having to add another forward, most likely a 3rd line center.

Having a top six of KZB, backed by Miller/Duchene/Zucc would be quite nice, but, say you have to move Hayes and Vesey in a deal for Duchene, that 3rd line needs reconstruction.
 
jas said:
Agreed on all of that, but, I would say that Duchene would be an upgrade on Hayes. The problem becomes having to add another forward, most likely a 3rd line center.

Having a top six of KZB, backed by Miller/Duchene/Zucc would be quite nice, but, say you have to move Hayes and Vesey in a deal for Duchene, that 3rd line needs reconstruction.
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Correct. We would be doing what we did a few years ago with Gaborik and Nash, stripping ourselves of all depth.
 
The Rangers just need to hang in long enough to pick up a winger at the deadline. We don’t need another expensive center with two young centers coming in the next year or two.

Hayes and Vesey need to play better that would help a lot.

Fast as much as I’m not a fan is a big upgrade over Carey and Cracknell

I don’t know why Lettieri or Nieves aren’t here over those two

Holden and Kampfer should have been a wake up call. If they are in there another game AV is going to get on the hot seat quick.
 
Shipachyov still sitting in the AHL on paper. What would he cost to bring to NY? I can only imagine he's getting more and more pissed off as the days go on.
 
The Red Wings want back a NHL roster player (center or top 4 D) equal in age & ability/production to AA. They are not trading him for a draft pick.
 
trade for both Duchene and Mackinnon :P

Wonder what it would take...id easily start with Miller, Hayes, Deangelo and a first.
 
I just want to say that I absolutely love the title of this thread. Also, considering how physically he's played so far, "I get a hit out of you" for the next Staal thread could be apt as well. Or, if he's back to making bonehead moves, "I get a fit out of you."
 
offdacrossbar said:
realistically, the offer that makes the most sense to me would be jimmy vesey and neal pionk for matt duchene. duchene can play the 2C with miller on his wing or he can play on the edge with miller as his pivot.

ck mika buch
miller duchene zucc
nash hayes grabs
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Sakic would block Gortons number with that offer.
 
Mac n Gs said:
Vesey-DD-Miller? Grabner-Carey-Cracknell? McDonagh-Holden? What the ****, AV?
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Well he figured out a way with his revamped D in 4 games how to get Holden and Staal back into the top 4 and in the process bury skjei smith and DeAngelo. Amazing. Really is.
 
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This is probably a troll by AV but I would love for him to put these D pairs into a game

He would be crushed by the media and fans
 
From Friedman's 30 thoughts about pavelec, if anyone is interested.

Ondrej Pavelec was preparing to be without an NHL contract in August, ready to fight somewhere with no guaranteed job for 2017-18. “I didn’t want to go to Europe,” he said last Saturday. “I got a KHL offer in May, but they wanted a decision in two days. I said no. I wanted one more try at the NHL. The phone rang on July 1.” Were you surprised the Rangers called? “Yes. But it’s New York. What a great place to play.”
Goalie coach Benoit Allaire is moving him back on the goal line. “I’ve tried it before,” Pavelec said. “But I didn’t stay with it because I didn’t trust it. Now, you see Henrik (Lundqvist) doing it every day and you see how it works.” With that technical change comes an adjustment to Pavelec’s thinking. “Before, you come out and challenge the shooter. If he passes to your side and someone else scores, you think, ‘Well, it’s not my fault, someone else was supposed to (stop the pass).’ (Allaire) doesn’t want you to think like that. He wants you to think, ‘Why can’t I be in position to make that save, too?’”
12. Pavelec watched Winnipeg’s season-opening 7-2 loss to Toronto. He took no satisfaction in it. “I felt bad for Steve Mason.” Goalie union.
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Kovalev27 said:
Well he figured out a way with his revamped D in 4 games how to get Holden and Staal back into the top 4 and in the process bury skjei smith and DeAngelo. Amazing. Really is.
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It's really disgusting, honestly. I get that Smith is struggling, but why is STAAL with SHATTENKIRK? That's the part that f***ing gets me.

You could easily go:

McDonagh-Smith
Skjei-Shattenkirk
Staal-DeAngelo
 
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