Speculation: Roster Building Thread Part IX: Can't take Staal away from AV

[The Crypto Guy]

Wonder if someone on defense gets an A also

Probably not, I feel like they would have announced both at the same time if someone else was getting an A.

 

[RGY]

Nash should get the other “A”

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Nash should get the other “A”

Nash already has an A.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Wonder if someone on defense gets an A also

Staal has an A.

So as it stands now:

Captain: McD
A's: Nash, Staal and Zucc.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Shattenkirk should get one next year. He can take Staal's

 

[AWall THE CLAW]

Are you allowed to dress a captain and 3 alts? We went with Richards-Staal-Girardi as A's in 2014 but with a C vacancy.

 

[TheTakedown]

While I agree on most teams waiting for at least the entry level to run out before going bonkers, I do also wonder if certain markets feel that if they wait even a year, perhaps the player may get some ideas about not wanting to be there long term.

I think that's determined on how the organization pursues those situations. Ola made a good point the other day the rangers do not use the early extensions because guys get too comfortable too quickly, I'm sure they let the players know that off the bat

 

[TheTakedown]

Pretty cool that Nash stepped up and has taken Chytil under his wing. Nash entered the league as an 18 year old as well so he can offer a lot.

There's a good chance this kid doesn't need to go back to the Czech league

 

[TheTakedown]

Shattenkirk should get one next year. He can take Staal's

Staal is such a bad hockey player that he should be stripped of his A... Guys been a great ranger but if we're going to reward shit ass players with letters "becuz L333DERSHIPZ!" that's going to send the wrong message to some of these players

 

[EpicDing]

Staal is such a bad hockey player that he should be stripped of his A... Guys been a great ranger but if we're going to reward **** ass players with letters "becuz L333DERSHIPZ!" that's going to send the wrong message to some of these players

You don't need to be good to have an A. It would be incredibly classless of the Rangers to strip him of it.

 

[RGY]

Nash already has an A.

Since when?

Wasn’t it Stepan, Staal, and Girardi last year?

 

[E-Train]

Wasn’t it Stepan, Staal, and Girardi last year?

It was those three and Nash. Two wore the A at home and the other two on the road.

 

[Placid]

Since when?

Wasn’t it Stepan, Staal, and Girardi last year?

Maybe i am misremembering, but in my head i clearly see Nash with an A last year ?

 

[EEDAWGZ]

I think it would send a worse message to show zero loyalty to a guy who was a pretty solid defenseman for us before some pretty serious injuries , shutting down Ovechkin on a nightly basis , plus his OT goal against the Caps , after Richards tied it with 6 secs left , one of the most exciting games I've seen in recent memories, can't just s**t on the guy . Give him limited minutes , and just by him out at seasons end , no reason to add insult to injury , no pun intended

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I think it would send a worse message to show zero loyalty to a guy who was a pretty solid defenseman for us before some pretty serious injuries , shutting down Ovechkin on a nightly basis , plus his OT goal against the Caps , after Richards tied it with 6 secs left , one of the most exciting games I've seen in recent memories, can't just s**t on the guy . Give him limited minutes , and just by him out at seasons end , no reason to add insult to injury , no pun intended

They've shown him plenty of loyalty by signing him to a ludicrous contract and giving him loads of ice time with out any fear of punishment for his never ending gaffes.

All those things you listed are nice, but can he do them anymore? No, he can't. If they want to win, he shouldn't play. Hes the 8th best defenseman on a roster that has 8 defensemen with 1 of them being Kampfer.

Based on actual ability, he wouldn't even be on the top pair in Hartford.

 

[EEDAWGZ]

I agree with you , which is why I said give him limited minutes , I was referencing stripping him of the "A"

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

You don't need to be good to have an A. It would be incredibly classless of the Rangers to strip him of it.

You are assuming some people could recognize class around here. For some it's all about Corsi.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Staal is such a bad hockey player that he should be stripped of his A... Guys been a great ranger but if we're going to reward **** ass players with letters "becuz L333DERSHIPZ!" that's going to send the wrong message to some of these players

Uh, having a letter on his shirt is literally the only time that "leadership" comes before performance. He has the letter because he's a leader on the team, that hasn't changed just because he sucks.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

You are assuming some people could recognize class around here. For some it's all about Corsi.

What does this have to do with anything being discussed?

I think stripping Staal of the A would be a bad move, but get out of here with this

 

[RangerBoy]

Pro sports is a business. Not much room for hurt feelings. Brent Sutter stripped Elias of the C. The Devils retired his number. The Sharks stripped Thornton of the C. He is still there. I read he wants to sign another contract with the Sharks to finish his career there. Not much room for sentimental feelings. AV made a big deal about the younger vets being the new leaders of the team. Why not Kreider with an A?

 

[E-Train]

AV made a big deal about the younger vets being the new leaders of the team. Why not Kreider with an A?

I thought he would've gotten the 4th A.

 

[haohmaru]

He still might, but I'm not sure that I see him as a team leader. Miller?

 

[TheTakedown]

I think it would send a worse message to show zero loyalty to a guy who was a pretty solid defenseman for us before some pretty serious injuries , shutting down Ovechkin on a nightly basis , plus his OT goal against the Caps , after Richards tied it with 6 secs left , one of the most exciting games I've seen in recent memories, can't just s**t on the guy . Give him limited minutes , and just by him out at seasons end , no reason to add insult to injury , no pun intended

you realize that stuff happened FIVE years ago, right? How long are we going to live in the past? Staal will be walking away with millions of dollars that he will never have had to actually earn... Sather gift wrapped him a contract. it's not up to staal to say no, so yes, I'm pissed at management for this too, but there are ways around this Staal situation that have not been executed and that I am salty about.

As SF has said, hockey is the only sport where intangibles have such a high value that is factored into players worth, and it pisses me off when these guys become detriments on ice and yet they are still rewarded.

AV made a big deal about younger guys stepping up and taking leadership. I assume they want to walk Staal out on a nice note, so they'll wait till next year and buy him out, but that's looking more and more like a stupid decisions... I can't even use the "hindsight is 20/20" excuse, or even the "there was nobody to replace him here! Too many unknowns with the prospects!" excuse here because it was *Holden who carried Staal last year*, not the other way around. Holden is absolutely serviceable as a 6D, and he'll fit just fine next to ADA, but no, we have to tip toe around Staal and his NMC, because we're concerned about a buyout cap hit 8 years from now? Apparently management thought it'd be a great idea to wait an extra year even with Holden here so that we could lop off 1 year of buyout salary... Think about that.... One year of a $1.355M cap penalty in 2023-24... And now I'm sure you're saying "NO ITS TWO YEARS LESS BUYOUT HIT!"...

No, it's not, because guess what, Staal's cap hit is still here, isn't it? There goes that 2nd year of "the buyout"

Sorry, I am particularly salty about Staal being on this team today.

 

[Hire Sather]

Pro sports is a business. Not much room for hurt feelings. Brent Sutter stripped Elias of the C. The Devils retired his number. The Sharks stripped Thornton of the C. He is still there. I read he wants to sign another contract with the Sharks to finish his career there. Not much room for sentimental feelings. AV made a big deal about the younger vets being the new leaders of the team. Why not Kreider with an A?

lol you're miffed Zuccarello got an A, aren't you?

 

[egelband]

I agree with you , which is why I said give him limited minutes , I was referencing stripping him of the "A"

Yeah. The letter is just a symbolic thing. No need to do anything negative here. If he ends up in the press box they can assign the A to someone else.