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Drury is going to pull a shocker, well before the trade deadline. Pretty confident to say that. I think this team is on the border of having something special but definitely needs a little bit of a shake up.
So the plan to improve the team is to trade away the guy who is probably the second best defenseman they have and keep the shitty ones?Yea but they don't have any trade value
His goal with 5 minutes left in game 7 versus Pens a couple years ago has earned him the nickname 5 minute Mika and some grace but its near its expiration point.Mika drives me nuts when he isn’t playing well. Paid to be a 1C but he’s really a 2C/PP specialist. He’s just there during 5v5 play and he hasn’t even been great on the PP this year. Oh well, we’re stuck with him.
I’d do whatever it takes to sell him on SoCal and send him to the Ducks for Zegras.
Zegras isn’t a winning player you say? Is Mika?
Trading Miller cannot be off the table. He is our most valuable trade chip where we can offload salary as opposed to trading a prospect or pick.
2014... That was Torts' team coached by AV.Can't think of a Ranger team that ground others teams into the ice with physicality and sheer will in a playoff series.
Or the plan is to trade the guys that suck to get All Stars back? At this point in Miller's development, a hard choice has to be made as to if he will ever become a great player. In my mind, I'm starting to think that isn't going to happen. And while we wait, we live with his horrible defense with thie occasional fantastic rush to get the fan base still believing in his potential.So the plan to improve the team is to trade away the guy who is probably the second best defenseman they have and keep the shitty ones?
Thats a plan for success
Haven't read the post game diatribe yet but here's my penny.
Silver lining. This game like a few others since the New Year has shown a lot to the person making the roster decisions.
This team cannot stand pat or its gonna get ugly.
Most Rangers fans that i know seem to think this roster, like so many other Ranger rosters since I've been watching (1974) is way too soft.
A lot of the most vocal posters here may think different. Or maybe they don't. But I do know one thing.
I've seen less skilled teams beat the Rangers into the dirt, by goon tactics in the 70s and 80s. Size and net front presence in the 90s.
System play, board battles, and sheer guts and will now.
Like many Ranger squads over the last 50 years, the NY Ranger model doesn't initiate, they are more built to have to respond. Can't think of a Ranger team that ground others teams into the ice with physicality and sheer will in a playoff series.
The 94 team was a hybrid team that leaned grit. But Mike Richer and Brian Leetch had the will AND Skill to get it done.
That said , what I'd do for a prime Esa Tikkanen or Glenn Anderson on this squad.
I think this team is good, but too soft in areas that matter against a good team in a playoff series.
I don't see a cup or a final with this core. I don't see it in the make up of the Oilers, Devils or Toronto either.
Watching till I die, with high hopes for my gut to be proven wrong
It’s totally unconscionable to trade Fox.After what happened last season and continuing into this season:
*Puts on body armor*
Fox is the valuable trade chip, and honestly the one that would entice a team to also take Zibs (Taking into account his NMC).
I'm sorry, he isn't as assertive with the puck, also prone to defensive lapses (Nothing on the scale of a Trouba or Miller), but his skating...woof!!
Maybe he can improve his skating like Laffy did....
It’s totally unconscionable to trade Fox.
Literally the only way it would make even a sliver of sense is if the plan is to tear it down to the studs and hard rebuild. Like worst team in the league rebuild over multiple years.
And even then trading Fox would still be a stupid decision
It’s totally unconscionable to trade Fox.
Literally the only way it would make even a sliver of sense is if the plan is to tear it down to the studs and hard rebuild. Like worst team in the league rebuild over multiple years.
And even then trading Fox would still be a stupid decision
Yea but they don't have any trade value
The leadership group all have no trade clauses.
The leadership group all have no trade clauses.
I swear if it weren’t for his backstory people wouldn’t give the guy so much leeway. He has been bad for a couple years now, and imo is one of the most overrated players in the NHL. He is a symptom of everything wrong with our team, he tries to slow down the fastest sport there is. Swap Fox with Q Hughes for instance and we’d be a far far far better teamIt’s totally unconscionable to trade Fox.
Literally the only way it would make even a sliver of sense is if the plan is to tear it down to the studs and hard rebuild. Like worst team in the league rebuild over multiple years.
And even then trading Fox would still be a stupid decision
See, I'm a Torts guy ( sacrilege here) and thought of that exact squad too, but they were ground to crematorium grade dust in the finals by 3rd and 4th line players.2014... That was Torts' team coached by AV.
I swear if it weren’t for his backstory people wouldn’t give the guy so much leeway. He has been bad for a couple years now, and imo is one of the most overrated players in the NHL. He is a symptom of everything wrong with our team, he tries to slow down the fastest sport there is. Swap Fox with Q Hughes for instance and we’d be a far far far better team
I agree. Trading one of those guys in the summer would be an impact move and will probably need to happen if there's another 1st round exit. But, for this year, that's not an option.Kreider and Trouba have their no trade clauses drop to partials this offseason AKA they can be moved to a place not on their list with out their permission.
Kreider is who I was referring to BTW. I don't think he's the guy whose most deserving to be moved (far from it, even if he drives me nuts he's still a bargain at his current deal) but he's the easiest to move. We've gotten to the point where we will know whether or not we can really move forward with this core and if it blows up again then the answer is obviously no.
Kreider and Trouba have their no trade clauses drop to partials this offseason AKA they can be moved to a place not on their list with out their permission.
Kreider is who I was referring to BTW. I don't think he's the guy whose most deserving to be moved (far from it, even if he drives me nuts he's still a bargain at his current deal) but he's the easiest to move. We've gotten to the point where we will know whether or not we can really move forward with this core and if it blows up again then the answer is obviously no.
Man what a leap he took with that one. He has been brutal.Vince Z. Mercogliano
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K'Andre Miller offered a blunt assessment for his recent play."I haven't had my greatest season."
These guys don't play Lav's style or Gallant's style...they are playing Ryan Strome's style, which he made perfectly clear when he told the press the coaches need to trust the players to make the right decisions. This core refuses to listen to coaching & even when Lavi tried to change the system, at the first sign of adversity they immediately revert back to the pond hockey they are just way too comfortable playing.At some point you see the problem isn't coaching,but the core of the team...the"leadership"...They've fallen back into Gallants style of play and these terrible losses and defensive breakdowns are piling up.
If Mess would of put his ego aside and took a entry level spot, maybe in Hartford, he prob could of earned it. He wanted the prime real estate from day 1.Ill get flamed for this take but the Rangers should hire Messier in the role Davidson once had.
IMO Kreider is part of the solution and not part of the problem.
The biggest problems on this team in no particular order are Igor, the defense not named Fox, Gus, or Schneider, the lack of center depth, our 1C playing like a 2C/powerplay specialist, and Barclay Goodrow's contract.
Kreider gives us something few players in the league do, is still really good at it, and it's also a skill that tends to age better than if he was still playing the speed game.