Roster Building thread - Part IX - (2024 edition)

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Mika drives me nuts when he isn’t playing well. Paid to be a 1C but he’s really a 2C/PP specialist. He’s just there during 5v5 play and he hasn’t even been great on the PP this year. Oh well, we’re stuck with him.

I’d do whatever it takes to sell him on SoCal and send him to the Ducks for Zegras.

Zegras isn’t a winning player you say? Is Mika?
His goal with 5 minutes left in game 7 versus Pens a couple years ago has earned him the nickname 5 minute Mika and some grace but its near its expiration point.
 
They can probably trade Trouba in the summer and I assume Goodrow will get bought out. Other than that we are stuck with the love birds (not that I want to deal Kreider) and Panarin. No one will take Igor if he keeps playing like this but at least management should know not to sign him.

If this season keeps going the way it is, they really should retool for a year. Empower the youth like Lafreniere, Kakko and Cuylle. Call up Othmann, Sykora, Edstrom types. Id be stripping A's from guys already. I'd also make Fox the captain and tell Trouba to kick rocks. His first season as Captain the team goes all in then no shows against the Devils; he spends the summer becoming a painter...I get that these guys are allowed to have interests outside of sports but what an awful look. Whether right or wrong (and the uninspired play by the whole team makes me think Im right) it feels like the leaders of the team dont care. It's 3 different coaches and they still play the same way. We are spinning our wheels until a message is sent via trade or by the coaching staff. The roster isnt good enough and everyon knows it.
 
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If Nashville is putting Saros on the block, we should put Igor on the block, and control the goalie market.

This is probably the only time in a cap era there might be a bit of a feeding frenzy for goalies too; and goalies notorious for getting bad value in trades. This here might be the exception
 
Trading Miller cannot be off the table. He is our most valuable trade chip where we can offload salary as opposed to trading a prospect or pick.

After what happened last season and continuing into this season:

*Puts on body armor*

Fox is the valuable trade chip, and honestly the one that would entice a team to also take Zibs (Taking into account his NMC).

I'm sorry, he isn't as assertive with the puck, also prone to defensive lapses (Nothing on the scale of a Trouba or Miller), but his skating...woof!!

Maybe he can improve his skating like Laffy did....
 
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So the plan to improve the team is to trade away the guy who is probably the second best defenseman they have and keep the shitty ones?

Thats a plan for success
Or the plan is to trade the guys that suck to get All Stars back? At this point in Miller's development, a hard choice has to be made as to if he will ever become a great player. In my mind, I'm starting to think that isn't going to happen. And while we wait, we live with his horrible defense with thie occasional fantastic rush to get the fan base still believing in his potential.
 
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Haven't read the post game diatribe yet but here's my penny.

Silver lining. This game like a few others since the New Year has shown a lot to the person making the roster decisions.

This team cannot stand pat or its gonna get ugly.

Most Rangers fans that i know seem to think this roster, like so many other Ranger rosters since I've been watching (1974) is way too soft.

A lot of the most vocal posters here may think different. Or maybe they don't. But I do know one thing.

I've seen less skilled teams beat the Rangers into the dirt, by goon tactics in the 70s and 80s. Size and net front presence in the 90s.

System play, board battles, and sheer guts and will now.

Like many Ranger squads over the last 50 years, the NY Ranger model doesn't initiate, they are more built to have to respond. Can't think of a Ranger team that ground others teams into the ice with physicality and sheer will in a playoff series.

The 94 team was a hybrid team that leaned grit. But Mike Richer and Brian Leetch had the will AND Skill to get it done.

That said , what I'd do for a prime Esa Tikkanen or Glenn Anderson on this squad.

I think this team is good, but too soft in areas that matter against a good team in a playoff series.

I don't see a cup or a final with this core. I don't see it in the make up of the Oilers, Devils or Toronto either.


Watching till I die, with high hopes for my gut to be proven wrong

Ill get flamed for this take but the Rangers should hire Messier in the role Davidson once had.
 
Lavy is keeping cool which is a good strategy at this point in the season. The D is messed up and not an easy fix. Igor looks like he has tourette syndrome with those blinking eyes and shrugs. Keep the 1st rder and get a big D man and hope Igor improves. Lavy will turn up the heat with the players in the spring and then we will see how they respond. Major adjustments can only happen in offseason. Remember our 3 yr window becomes 2 after this season.
 
After what happened last season and continuing into this season:

*Puts on body armor*

Fox is the valuable trade chip, and honestly the one that would entice a team to also take Zibs (Taking into account his NMC).

I'm sorry, he isn't as assertive with the puck, also prone to defensive lapses (Nothing on the scale of a Trouba or Miller), but his skating...woof!!

Maybe he can improve his skating like Laffy did....
It’s totally unconscionable to trade Fox.

Literally the only way it would make even a sliver of sense is if the plan is to tear it down to the studs and hard rebuild. Like worst team in the league rebuild over multiple years.

And even then trading Fox would still be a stupid decision
 
It’s totally unconscionable to trade Fox.

Literally the only way it would make even a sliver of sense is if the plan is to tear it down to the studs and hard rebuild. Like worst team in the league rebuild over multiple years.

And even then trading Fox would still be a stupid decision

Idk about others but Fox looks like one of the players who actually gives a shit on this team. It's not his fault the rest of them are playing reactive hockey. He has scored more goals going to the net in the last few weeks than 90% of the forwards. Opposing teams dont even put a body on his D partner in the offensive zone lol
 
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It’s totally unconscionable to trade Fox.

Literally the only way it would make even a sliver of sense is if the plan is to tear it down to the studs and hard rebuild. Like worst team in the league rebuild over multiple years.

And even then trading Fox would still be a stupid decision

That was the similar sentiment with Shesterkin:

The Heir Apparent to Lundqvist, to at least he won't be able to get ridiculous money from us, to irrelevant if he signs or not with us.

We're witnessing more than just Fox "slowing the game down."
 
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At some point you see the problem isn't coaching,but the core of the team...the"leadership"...They've fallen back into Gallants style of play and these terrible losses and defensive breakdowns are piling up.
 
Yea but they don't have any trade value


The leadership group all have no trade clauses.


The leadership group all have no trade clauses.

Kreider and Trouba have their no trade clauses drop to partials this offseason AKA they can be moved to a place not on their list with out their permission.

Kreider is who I was referring to BTW. I don't think he's the guy whose most deserving to be moved (far from it, even if he drives me nuts he's still a bargain at his current deal) but he's the easiest to move. We've gotten to the point where we will know whether or not we can really move forward with this core and if it blows up again then the answer is obviously no.
 
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It’s totally unconscionable to trade Fox.

Literally the only way it would make even a sliver of sense is if the plan is to tear it down to the studs and hard rebuild. Like worst team in the league rebuild over multiple years.

And even then trading Fox would still be a stupid decision
I swear if it weren’t for his backstory people wouldn’t give the guy so much leeway. He has been bad for a couple years now, and imo is one of the most overrated players in the NHL. He is a symptom of everything wrong with our team, he tries to slow down the fastest sport there is. Swap Fox with Q Hughes for instance and we’d be a far far far better team
 
2014... That was Torts' team coached by AV.
See, I'm a Torts guy ( sacrilege here) and thought of that exact squad too, but they were ground to crematorium grade dust in the finals by 3rd and 4th line players.

Agree. Closest team since the 94 squad as far as guts though.
 
I swear if it weren’t for his backstory people wouldn’t give the guy so much leeway. He has been bad for a couple years now, and imo is one of the most overrated players in the NHL. He is a symptom of everything wrong with our team, he tries to slow down the fastest sport there is. Swap Fox with Q Hughes for instance and we’d be a far far far better team

LOL.

Literally had the best year of his career last year and finished 2nd in Norris voting (would have won if he had a competent offensive partner since he would have likely been within an ear shot of Karlsson's production) which would have been his 2nd Norris.

Slowing down the game not a bad thing. Every elite player in this league does this.

I don't think you have the worst takes here, but you're close.

Bad for a couple of years haha. Get the f*** out of here.
 
Kreider and Trouba have their no trade clauses drop to partials this offseason AKA they can be moved to a place not on their list with out their permission.

Kreider is who I was referring to BTW. I don't think he's the guy whose most deserving to be moved (far from it, even if he drives me nuts he's still a bargain at his current deal) but he's the easiest to move. We've gotten to the point where we will know whether or not we can really move forward with this core and if it blows up again then the answer is obviously no.
I agree. Trading one of those guys in the summer would be an impact move and will probably need to happen if there's another 1st round exit. But, for this year, that's not an option.
 
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Kreider and Trouba have their no trade clauses drop to partials this offseason AKA they can be moved to a place not on their list with out their permission.

Kreider is who I was referring to BTW. I don't think he's the guy whose most deserving to be moved (far from it, even if he drives me nuts he's still a bargain at his current deal) but he's the easiest to move. We've gotten to the point where we will know whether or not we can really move forward with this core and if it blows up again then the answer is obviously no.

IMO Kreider is part of the solution and not part of the problem.

The biggest problems on this team in no particular order are Igor, the defense not named Fox, Gus, or Schneider, the lack of center depth, our 1C playing like a 2C/powerplay specialist, and Barclay Goodrow's contract.

Kreider gives us something few players in the league do, is still really good at it, and it's also a skill that tends to age better than if he was still playing the speed game.
 
At some point you see the problem isn't coaching,but the core of the team...the"leadership"...They've fallen back into Gallants style of play and these terrible losses and defensive breakdowns are piling up.
These guys don't play Lav's style or Gallant's style...they are playing Ryan Strome's style, which he made perfectly clear when he told the press the coaches need to trust the players to make the right decisions. This core refuses to listen to coaching & even when Lavi tried to change the system, at the first sign of adversity they immediately revert back to the pond hockey they are just way too comfortable playing.
 
IMO Kreider is part of the solution and not part of the problem.

The biggest problems on this team in no particular order are Igor, the defense not named Fox, Gus, or Schneider, the lack of center depth, our 1C playing like a 2C/powerplay specialist, and Barclay Goodrow's contract.

Kreider gives us something few players in the league do, is still really good at it, and it's also a skill that tends to age better than if he was still playing the speed game.

And yet it seems the team has gotten away from it.
 
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