Roster Building thread - Part IX - (2024 edition)

[B17 Apricots]

He’s also “on pace” for zero 5v5 secondary assist which tells you all there is about the value of the term on pace.

Super good comment man

 

[SA16]

Super good comment man

Thank you. Very little things in the world lazier than using the term “on pace” like it has any predictive value whatsoever

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Thank you. Very little things in the world lazier than using the term “on pace” like it has any predictive value whatsoever

It actually does, especially halfway through the season.

 

[Kords]

Mika is on pace for 26 5v5 points this year. That's horrendous

Slow starter etc yada yada

 

[SA16]

It actually does, especially halfway through the season.

Then you'll be delighted to know that Chris Kreider is on pace to lead the New York Rangers in 5v5 GF% this season despite most of the board saying the Kreider/Zibanejad line is bad and needs to be split up.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Kreider hasn't done anything on the PP or even strength in weeks. He's very streaky. That top line needs to at least get it somewhat going. Those two have zero chemistry with 90% of the people they play with. Split them up.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Then you'll be delighted to know that Chris Kreider is on pace to lead the New York Rangers in 5v5 GF% this season despite most of the board saying the Kreider/Zibanejad line is bad and needs to be split up.

Using on pace to discuss percentages doesn't even make sense.

 

[SA16]

Using on pace to discuss percentages doesn't even make sense.

Then you'll be delighted to know that Chris Kreider is on pace to lead the New York Rangers in 5v5 +/- this season despite most of the board saying the Kreider/Zibanejad line is bad and needs to be split up.

 

[Rangers in 7]

Then you'll be delighted to know that Chris Kreider is on pace to lead the New York Rangers in 5v5 GF% this season despite most of the board saying the Kreider/Zibanejad line is bad and needs to be split up.

they still suck this year

 

[TopShelfSnipes]

Kreider is a bigger issue on his line than Zibanejad is.

Kreider also looks like good Kreider when ever he’s away from Zibanejad.

Split them up.

That makes me think the problem is Zibanejad, and the eye test bears that out.

He floats, won't shoot from high danger areas at even strength, and is predictable AF on the PP, and is responsible for half the touches that end up going the other way when he either misses the net on the patented overhyped one timer, or gets beat along the wall for a loose puck.

Kreider hasn't exactly been a bull along the wall either, but when the puck heads in his direction for a battle it's at least 50/50, and he's good in front of the net.

Zibanejad is only good off the rush, and only sometimes, and that's only if the D and the goalie haven't already figured out he's going to try the cross ice goalmouth pass to Kreider at the weakside no matter how fast he enters the zone or what angle he takes to the net.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

That makes me think the problem is Zibanejad, and the eye test bears that out.

He floats, won't shoot from high danger areas at even strength, and is predictable AF on the PP, and is responsible for half the touches that end up going the other way when he either misses the net on the patented overhyped one timer, or gets beat along the wall for a loose puck.

Kreider hasn't exactly been a bull along the wall either, but when the puck heads in his direction for a battle it's at least 50/50, and he's good in front of the net.

Zibanejad is only good off the rush, and only sometimes, and that's only if the D and the goalie haven't already figured out he's going to try the cross ice goalmouth pass to Kreider at the weakside no matter how fast he enters the zone or what angle he takes to the net.

Kreider also hasn't been physical in weeks. His board battles are shuffle boarding the puck to whoever is at the point.

 

[Savant]

I don't know. Perron has fallen off a wagon. He can still pop those in on the power play, but he's not getting that here. He's got 3 goals 5 on 5. It doesn't seem like getting Perron will help that much.

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bold false narrative needs to die.
die.die.die.die.
We didn't listen to bern, waited too long on Lindy
Also, that package is not help
Further, letting guys walk when rental, depending on exact variables, usually = wasteful = fail.

Correct play here is
Lindy + Jones
to DET
for
Rasmussen + 2nd

leaves us with crazy strong 4th line to physically dominate/punish
Edstrom-Ras-Rempe, possibly if we get an RD, Trouba shifts to 4RW



As usual, usually right.
Howev, where are you and everybody else when I want to overpay within reason in specific currency that = wince but we can live with, and get
Sanderson from Sens?

i personally don’t want Perron but his name came up. I’d much rather just try to get Gostisbehere. Don’t think any of Detroits available forwards do too much for us. I’d much rather just try and get Gostisbehere via trade, sign Corey Perry, and trade for Chytil cover and/or a depth Dman, that they will actually play

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Then you'll be delighted to know that Chris Kreider is on pace to lead the New York Rangers in 5v5 +/- this season despite most of the board saying the Kreider/Zibanejad line is bad and needs to be split up.

+/- means nothing.

 

[kovazub94]

The Rangers need more pushback. Wilson is playing with a broken nose. He hits Johnny B on Saturday. Some people say Brodzinski was at fault. Still Wilson hit him. Face shield and all. Lafreniere scores the goal yesterday and one of the Capitals players hits him from behind. Wilson. The Rangers don't respond. This is your opportunity. Punch Wilson in the nose. Push the face shield into his nose. Rip off the shield. I am sick of this team. Start some scrums. Let's do something people. Nothing.

The Rangers aren't winning 4 playoff rounds with this D. One playoff round might be too much.

Perry is that guy. Will lead Cuylle by example. This would be a good place to start.

 

[DanielBrassard]

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i personally don’t want Perron but his name came up. I’d much rather just try to get Gostisbehere. Don’t think any of Detroits available forwards do too much for us. I’d much rather just try and get Gostisbehere via trade, sign Corey Perry, and trade for Chytil cover and/or a depth Dman, that they will actually play

Where is Gostisbehere playing? That seems like a waste of assets.

 

[NYR Viper]

Perry is that guy. Will lead Cuylle by example. This would be a good place to start.

Perry would add an element the team has been lacking for some time. At some point, the team needs to change from being so 'gentlemenly' apart from Trouba who holds no prisoners.

 

[SA16]

+/- means nothing.

1. Mika Zibanejad has 13 5v5 points in 41 games and is only pace for 26 5v5 points.

Wow. That's awful.

Exact same stat reworded:

2. Mika Zibanejad is on pace to score a 5v5 point in 28% of his games this year.

So what? You can't use percentages with regards to on pace.

Where is Gostisbehere playing? That seems like a waste of assets.

Gostisbehere is a worse version of Gustafsson and would have absolutely zero role on this team.

 

[Savant]

Where is Gostisbehere playing? That seems like a waste of assets.

I mean hopefully they move Lindgren out in the process. Again this is a bad puck moving team and Gostisbehere is very good at it. Hes an upgrade on Lindgren at this point, whether people want to see it or not.

If you go from what the have now to Miller-Fox and you put Gostisbehere with Trouba or Schneider depending on if you want to move Gustafsson up or not, it’s a much better team; and you get to move Lindgren out before you have to extend him.

Gostisbehere is much better than he was in his Flyers days which is how most people here probably remember him. Was great with Carolina in their run last year and has built on it in Detroit. He would be a very positive addition here

 

[duhmetreE]

1. Mika Zibanejad has 13 5v5 points in 41 games and is only pace for 26 5v5 points.

Wow. That's awful.

Exact same stat reworded:

2. Mika Zibanejad is on pace to score a 5v5 point in 28% of his games this year.

So what? You can't use percentages with regards to on pace.



Gostisbehere is a worse version of Gustafsson and would have absolutely zero role on this team.

Pedantic as usual.

Zibs has a 1.49 pts/60 rate 5v5. That's garbage. Brodzinski has a better rate.

The point is he sucks at 5v5 and it's a major hinderance to the team

 

[bernmeister]

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i personally don’t want Perron but his name came up. I’d much rather just try to get Gostisbehere. Don’t think any of Detroits available forwards do too much for us. I’d much rather just try and get Gostisbehere via trade, sign Corey Perry, and trade for Chytil cover and/or a depth Dman, that they will actually play

respectfully my friend, more of the same = more of the same.
stop adding vets esp min value vets
pay + get foundation pieces, who are principally best quality youth

it helps when doing this not to have given away so many assets

 

[NYR Viper]

Here's another guy who probably wouldn't be expensive and who's team may be looking to shuffle some things around for their own run. Steven Lorentz. He played more center last year than this year and his TOI has been cut back dramatically. He makes $1.05m this season. He's generally a pretty physical player as well

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Fluff piece:

 

[The Crypto Guy]

1. Mika Zibanejad has 13 5v5 points in 41 games and is only pace for 26 5v5 points.

Wow. That's awful.

Exact same stat reworded:

2. Mika Zibanejad is on pace to score a 5v5 point in 28% of his games this year.

So what? You can't use percentages with regards to on pace.



Gostisbehere is a worse version of Gustafsson and would have absolutely zero role on this team.

Not even sure what you are arguing. There is absolutely nothing wrong with saying a player is "on pace" for a certain amount of something based on their current production halfway through a season. And yes, it is awful that Mika only has 13 5v5 points 41 games into the season AND is on pace for just 26 5v5 points for 82 games.

 

[Fitzy]

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

I mean hopefully they move Lindgren out in the process. Again this is a bad puck moving team and Gostisbehere is very good at it. Hes an upgrade on Lindgren at this point, whether people want to see it or not.

If you go from what the have now to Miller-Fox and you put Gostisbehere with Trouba or Schneider depending on if you want to move Gustafsson up or not, it’s a much better team; and you get to move Lindgren out before you have to extend him.

Gostisbehere is much better than he was in his Flyers days which is how most people here probably remember him. Was great with Carolina in their run last year and has built on it in Detroit. He would be a very positive addition here

Still fan fiction.

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That's the guy to seek advice on how not to get bopped.