Roster Building thread - Part IX - (2024 edition)

[LaffyTaffy13]

Amen. There is a kid who has been well coached coming into the organization.
Rarely caught out of position. True North/South guy. Carries the puck up, dumps it into a corner, then goes and bangs the defenseman that tries to retrieve it.
Once his line has control in the O-Zone he stands net front screening the goalie and/or looking for the tip in front.
Also can take shifts on the PK.
Can play both C and RW.


Not just a fighter.

Yup. I have an ahltv sub and rempe is actually a pretty decent hockey player. He can be a 4th liner for sure. Long term? Probably not but hes better than nick bonino. Hes the type of guy whos on your lineup until the TDL then serves as a 13th/14th post tdl

 

[Machinehead]

Don't you also diatribe about how you can't teach talent?

I was talking about prospects. Zegras is established in the NHL and at some point, it has to work. He's in his 4th year and producing progressively worse on-ice results.

 

[Machinehead]

Also, I never said I wouldn't take a flier on Zegras' ability. Just not for the packages people are suggesting on HF.

It's similar to what folks were proposing for Matthew Tkachuk coming off of 104 points. It's insane.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

LMAO those Fox without Lindgren numbers.

NO ONE CAN PLAY HIS ROLE!

f***, I can drag down Fox too

 

[Machinehead]

It's really weird because I was so here for the Gustafsson signing. They actually identified that Schneider needed help and got him exactly what he needed.

Meanwhile, no change for the other pairs. Lindgren and Fox are legally married, and Miller and Trouba are legally one person.

Can't try anything else. After all, that top 4 led us to multiple Cups.

 

[kovazub94]

Interested to see once Pitlick is back whether Laviolette chooses to sit Bonino or Brodzinski. Only negative comments please.

 

[Flan the incredible]

1. A guy with a 15-team NTC isn't worth much as a trade chip, even at just half of Goodrow's cap hit.

2. Who does Goodrow protect here? We're getting more grit from the AHL call-ups making league minimum.

1. In a few years with the cap going up he could have some value to a contending team. Shoot the Rangers traded for Tyler Motte twice.

2. They just gave 36 yr old Foligno 4.5 million for what? My guess is grit, leadership and to show the kids how to be a pro. Goody can also provide those same qualities during their rebuild.

 

[I Eat Crow]

Then you missed my whole diatribe about how Zegras isn't that good and I wouldn't give up much.

I hear that, but who actually is good nowadays? Maybe 10 centers in the whole league? Everyone has some huge warts of some kind unless you're McDavid or Matt Tkachuk. Even Adam Fox has huge warts this year.

The difference between winning a Cup or not is identifying core players that can play well 5 v 5 on both sides of the puck and filling in the roster with the correct support players to offset the warts of those core players.

I really do think Drury did a decent job of this considering what he's had to work with. The pieces just aren't in the correct places. Switching Miller and Lindgren would do wonders for both players. You can ironically enough have the next Phil Housley in Miller and they just refuse to put him in the correct position to become that.

Launching Goodrow, Bonino, Trouba, and Zibanejad (in order of importance) into the sun and getting useful players back would go a long, long way.

P.S. don't pay Shesterkin unless he takes a huge hometown discount to the tune of $6 million/year or less. Let a fringe team like Ottawa, Buffalo, or a desperate team like Carolina, Minnesota, or LA overpay him.

 

[Avery16]

Interested to see once Pitlick is back whether Laviolette chooses to sit Bonino or Brodzinski. Only negative comments please.

I’m guessing a rotation, and that it won’t matter a whole lot.

 

[Savant]

Interested to see once Pitlick is back whether Laviolette chooses to sit Bonino or Brodzinski. Only negative comments please.

Think Bonino is teflon because he PKs. I think Pitlick has been better than him, but its a low bar. I'd sign Corey Perry and demote both, but maybe thats just me.

 

[mas0764]

Since December 1 when basically things went down hill, five on five, we have two pylons playing defense.

Shout out Gus and Schneider though, hopefully Gus can stay next year.

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Lindgren is always no offense but his defense is usually very good, so this is surprising. Unless you can do something good with him like flip him for Zegras, I wouldn’t want to run him off yet.

This is always how Trouba is, for some reason his inane defenders don’t notice it, but he’s always been mediocre at best to awful at worst at defense and it is without question the biggest problem on the team.

You think it’s forward depth? That’s because we are paying Trouba $8m to be a replacement level third pair defender. At that salary we can’t afford forward help. So you’re wrong. The team’s biggest problem is Trouba.

 

[Go Rangers]

NYR scout at wings and leafs game. Who they looking at?

 

[mas0764]

NYR scout at wings and leafs game. Who they looking at?

No rentals I hope.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

NYR scout at wings and leafs game. Who they looking at?

Perron Id guess.

 

[Savant]

NYR scout at wings and leafs game. Who they looking at?

Hopefully Gostisbehere

 

[Avery16]

Perron Id guess.

He’s an impact player who scores clutch goals and is a big playoffs performer. I never thought of him for us, but that’d be pretty good.

 

[Machinehead]

I hear that, but who actually is good nowadays? Maybe 10 centers in the whole league? Everyone has some huge warts of some kind unless you're McDavid or Matt Tkachuk. Even Adam Fox has huge warts this year.

The difference between winning a Cup or not is identifying core players that can play well 5 v 5 on both sides of the puck and filling in the roster with the correct support players to offset the warts of those core players.

I really do think Drury did a decent job of this considering what he's had to work with. The pieces just aren't in the correct places. Switching Miller and Lindgren would do wonders for both players. You can ironically enough have the next Phil Housley in Miller and they just refuse to put him in the correct position to become that.

Launching Goodrow, Bonino, Trouba, and Zibanejad (in order of importance) into the sun and getting useful players back would go a long, long way.

P.S. don't pay Shesterkin unless he takes a huge hometown discount to the tune of $6 million/year or less. Let a fringe team like Ottawa, Buffalo, or a desperate team like Carolina, Minnesota, or LA overpay him.

Warts, sure. Only McDavid and Tkachuk have basically prefect games.

We're not talking about warts. We're talking about a guy that doesn't make any standout impact at 5v5 (or anywhere) who's being priced like Jack Eichel.

Remember when Larry Brooks really wanted Josh Anderson who does nothing well but he has fights sometimes? Replace "fights" with "highlight reel goals."

 

[I Eat Crow]

Warts, sure. Only McDavid and Tkachuk have basically prefect games.

We're not talking about warts. We're talking about a guy that doesn't make any standout impact at 5v5 (or anywhere) who's being priced like Jack Eichel.


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Remember when Larry Brooks really wanted Josh Anderson who does nothing well but he has fights sometimes? Replace "fights" with "highlight reel goals."

Is this the compilation of his whole time in the NHL?

 

[Machinehead]

Is this the compilation of his whole time in the NHL?

Not counting his rookie season, yes.

He looks better if you take out this year instead (he was horrendous this year in the time he played) but I'm still not getting out of bed for it.

I'm never interested in guys being priced on fluff over results, whether that fluff is grit or nice goals.

It's like what Pete says about Johnny Damon in Moneyball. He's the flavor of the market right now for reasons and he's just not that good.

 

[NYR Viper]

I think the guy who makes loads of sense is Jenner and I think Goodrow goes back to offset salary. It just makes sense but I’m scared of the cost

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Perron would be an awesome add if the Wings fell out of the playoff race. Looks like Kane got hurt tonight too.

As would Jenner. Work some cap magic!

Kreider - Zib - Kakko
Panarin - Trocheck - Laff
Perron - Jenner - Chytil
Cuylle - Goodrow - Vesey

2 of Pitlick, Bonino, Wheeler, Brodz as spares

#FtheCap

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Perron would be an awesome add if the Wings fell out of the playoff race. Looks like Kane got hurt tonight too.

HFDocs are saying hip.

 

[BobMarleyNYR]

Trouba is clearly worried about his wife's upcoming birth. Well he get better after? Who knows.

Panarin, also expecting a kid very soon casts doubt on that... he's a no. 3-4 dman asked to be no. 1. Always been the issue.

 

[RGY]

According to Friedman, Kane’s injury not related to the hip. Had two awkward collisions before departing with the trainer under his own strength.

 

[IDvsEGO]

he's a no. 3-4 dman asked to be no. 1. Always been the issue.

He's not asked to be a 1. thats fox.
He's being asked to handle heavy defensive minutes because you dont wanna burn fox out giving him a ton of SH time, and fox handles the heavy PP minutes.

I get the hate for his contract. But the deal was made before covid, and the cap. By this point, trouba's deal should've been perfect for a mid 3-4 defenseman and once we hit the playoffs, trouba's game is far more valued. We just need to get there.
I also think he's been a solid C for the rangers, which has some added value.