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Roster Building thread - Part IX - (2024 edition)

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IDvsEGO said:
Hows korczak coming? If he can be a middle 6 guy that’s a huge need for us.
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I think Clark Kellogg or Ranger Ric may be more suited to answer this question. I have watched about 15 games or so this year. He has looked ok not great. Not an offensive dynamo but not a liability defensively. 21 years old but needs more work down in Hartford for sure.
Hopefully eventually a possible 3C for us.
 
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NYR Viper said:
He's going to need, at minimum, another full year in the AHL next year to see how he progresses. 15 points in 44 games is okay for his first season. It would be nice to see him a step next year to double that...
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Wouldn’t this technically be his second ahl year?
 
So I made some calls to Coyotes peeps and here’s what I heard. Willing to trade veterans on the edges but want players back, not draft picks. All useful veterans with term are not likely to move (e.g. Bjugsta) unless the team is blown away. They would be willing to make a deal to get a first back and might even sweeten the pot with a second or third. They have literally more draft picks than they can use now In addition to a number of unsigned high draft choices. Morale is pretty low with the possibility of a team move in the near future and they don’t want to send away anyone they consider a “core” guy without good reason.
 
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kovazub94 said:
So regardless of what differences of opinion we have re Goodrow - getting a proper 3C (even the one who’s not someone we’d rave about as 3C) who ultimately pushes Goodrow to 4W is a net positive for the Rangers especially if the trade cost is low.
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I can't think of any scenario where Goodrow plays as a net positive.

The net positive move would be what ever gets him out of the lineup.
 
bobbop said:
So I made some calls to Coyotes peeps and here’s what I heard. Willing to trade veterans on the edges but want players back, not draft picks. All useful veterans with term are not likely to move (e.g. Bjugsta) unless the team is blown away. They would be willing to make a deal to get a first back and might even sweeten the pot with a second or third. They have literally more draft picks than they can use now In addition to a number of unsigned high draft choices. Morale is pretty low with the possibility of a team move in the near future and they don’t want to send away anyone they consider a “core” guy without good reason.
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What's the temperature on Hayton
 
IDvsEGO said:
I more meant, he was eligible for the ahl last year, went back to juniors because he wasn’t ready.
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He was eligible last year because his birth date is before January 1st. It was still his D+2 season. If Othmann were 5 days older, he would have been in the same situation.
 
bobbop said:
So I made some calls to Coyotes peeps and here’s what I heard. Willing to trade veterans on the edges but want players back, not draft picks. All useful veterans with term are not likely to move (e.g. Bjugsta) unless the team is blown away. They would be willing to make a deal to get a first back and might even sweeten the pot with a second or third. They have literally more draft picks than they can use now In addition to a number of unsigned high draft choices. Morale is pretty low with the possibility of a team move in the near future and they don’t want to send away anyone they consider a “core” guy without good reason.
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What's your take on a new arena possibility? What chance do you give it percentage wise?

I've seen there's a North Scottsdale land plot for auction, but is this realistic at all?
 
Machinehead said:
He's a good player, he has been for a long time. He's not a real star.

If you could clone Tarasenko and give me two, I would take Panarin over both of them. That's a star.

Hell, Panarin's worst season is as good as Tarasenko's best season.

Especially at this point. Even fans of Tarasenko would admit he's complimentary at this point in his career.
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Frist off.... no one is comparing Tarasenko to Panarin (today). If you did that after last years playoff ... everyone and their mothers would have picked Tarasenko.
Tarasenko leads his team in +- this year. And he has a 2.29 points/60 5v5 which would be second best on our team after Panarin. 61st in the entire league (min 30 gp)
So I don't know what your definition of "a real star" is...
I would say a top 90 forward is a star. Just under 3 forwards/team. All-star would be considered top 30.
And he is without question a top 90 forward in the league. Probably top 50. Some teams have one or zero forwards better than him. Some teams have two forwards better than him and very few teams have multiple.

He's still a line driver today. Whether he plays with Pinto or Greig... Tarasenko is the benefactor.
 
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bobbop said:
So I made some calls to Coyotes peeps and here’s what I heard. Willing to trade veterans on the edges but want players back, not draft picks. All useful veterans with term are not likely to move (e.g. Bjugsta) unless the team is blown away. They would be willing to make a deal to get a first back and might even sweeten the pot with a second or third. They have literally more draft picks than they can use now In addition to a number of unsigned high draft choices. Morale is pretty low with the possibility of a team move in the near future and they don’t want to send away anyone they consider a “core” guy without good reason.
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Finally am 100% positive that we are not trying to land Shane Doan.
 
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GoAwayPanarin said:
I can't think of any scenario where Goodrow plays as a net positive.

The net positive move would be what ever gets him out of the lineup.
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Improvements to 3C/4C would be net positive (ie improvement over the current state which would be a baseline).
 
NYR Viper said:
What's the temperature on Hayton
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Same guy as Kakko. They don't care about picks and his upside to salary is better than any hockey trade for current value.

Only goes for another disappointing high pick. Even then they have to be sorta good. They'd laugh Filip Zadina out of the room. Maybe Adam Boqvist?
 
SA16 said:
Not sure I'm seeing your numbers here. It's 19 points in 76 games this year and the two prior as a Ranger. Prior to this year he had 17 points in 101 NHL games. He's obviously been better this year. He certainly doesn't have a history to fall back on to assume this level production continues.
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f***ing Copilot AI is hallucinating. I stand corrected (more precisely f***ed up) - he barely scored during his previous two seasons. (good thing I didn't try get critical information for my boss)
 
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Have spent the last ten days or so trawling back about 250 pages, partly because I am a crackpot, partly to catch-up on where you guys are at for the TDL moves. Some great chat!

To my mind it seems hilariously NYR that the move smacking us directly in the face for our needs, is Buch - and that there is surely no chance Drury will make that happen, even for let's say the return wasn't something crazy.
 
bobbop said:
Todd Walsh definitely is. I’ve talked to him many times and he is always candid and knowledgeable. Tyson is another story.
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This Todd Walsh, oh boy
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