Roster Building thread - Part IX - (2024 edition)

[NYR94]

 

[GENESISPuck94]

Zegras has 4 goals as a first line pp1 guy. He has never had more than 23. What goals do you speak of? Or are you just blinded by names?

It would be so Rangers to buy another big name player to sell jerseys to fans that want flash. We have 1 cup in nearly 100 years. The fans are part of the problem.


Agreed. Pitlick was never good. Ever.

"Big name". He is 22 years old (23 next month) and had back to back 60+ point seasons at ages 20-22. On the worst team in the league last season and a bottom 5 team the year prior.

The Ducks are a mess. If they're stupid enough to trade Zegras the Rangers should be in on it considering center is a massive organizational weakness.

He would be a long term solution.

 

[Matt Rentfree]

"Big name". He is 22 years old (23 next month) and had back to back 60+ point seasons at ages 20-22. On the worst team in the league last season and a bottom 5 team the year prior.

The Ducks are a mess. If they're stupid enough to trade Zegras the Rangers should be in on it considering center is a massive organizational weakness.

He would be a long term solution.

I would argue that if he doesn't at least play passable defense, he's not a center - he's a wing playing center - like Ryan Strome.

 

[Cmox]

the and a 1/2 , hahaha

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

It’s sad that it has to take a few rookies to do that. Shows how soft passive and content the team is fine with being soft

Heres the thing I worry about though. This core is so soft, fragile and mentally weak that guys seem to get neutered when they come in. Its almost like the core guys look at them funny if they dare mix it up or compete

 

[Profet]

Heres the thing I worry about though. This core is so soft, fragile and mentally weak that guys seem to get neutered when they come in. Its almost like the core guys look at them funny if they dare mix it up or compete

It's not even "compete" per say...

It's that no one goes between the dots. This is a perimeter team and it's why they sucks at 5v5.

If you try to go between the dots you get out muscled because every other player is on the boards and can be ignored.

So players just stop trying to do it and just revert to the half board to point passes that do nothing.

 

[NYR Viper]

Olofsson isn’t a shooter. He shoots a lot on the PP. Outside of one year at 5v5 he’s always been around average.

Olofsson had 17 goals at 5v5 just last year.

If we all agree that we aren’t looking to break the bank on a rental, the options aren’t going to be perfect. I’d rather trade for someone like Olofsson, try him with Kreider and Zibanejad and on PP2. PP2 could also use a shooter…

 

[Nickmo82]

So, whether there was any truth to the "taking calls on Kakko" thing or not, Wheeler going down means he's not going anywhere, right?

 

[Vitto79]

Olofsson had 17 goals at 5v5 just last year.

If we all agree that we aren’t looking to break the bank on a rental, the options aren’t going to be perfect. I’d rather trade for someone like Olofsson, try him with Kreider and Zibanejad and on PP2. PP2 could also use a shooter…

My only concern is at 2.4 ish at 50 off is it worth the cap space they have left ?

 

[Levitate]

So, whether there was any truth to the "taking calls on Kakko" thing or not, Wheeler going down means he's not going anywhere, right?

Probably, unless there’s some crazy deal to be made that brings in another RW and “fixes” another area of need, which seems unlikely

 

[cheech70]

twin towers

 

[tlk]

Can they sign Jagr

 

[IchabodCrane]

Heres the thing I worry about though. This core is so soft, fragile and mentally weak that guys seem to get neutered when they come in. Its almost like the core guys look at them funny if they dare mix it up or compete

Yea… the “neutering” piece is cultural. Anyone that has worked on any kind of teams at work- we all see how they can be so culturally different. That’s what I mean about our leadership style. Zbad, Kreids, Fox are obviously tremendous players- it’s just that every winning team has those fire breathing soul guys too. You have to hold each other accountable. I don’t see Adam Fox going over to Mika and saying “wtf Mika…. Shoot that puck, or younleft me hanging- try harder”

 

[Avery16]

Can they sign Jagr

Looking pretty slow out there

 

[IchabodCrane]

So, whether there was any truth to the "taking calls on Kakko" thing or not, Wheeler going down means he's not going anywhere, right?

Sure as hell hope so.

 

[Mugless]

twin towers

That's two big boys screening the goalie.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Heres the thing I worry about though. This core is so soft, fragile and mentally weak that guys seem to get neutered when they come in. Its almost like the core guys look at them funny if they dare mix it up or compete

What are you using to measure this?

 

[CTTribe73]

Yea… the “neutering” piece is cultural. Anyone that has worked on any kind of teams at work- we all see how they can be so culturally different. That’s what I mean about our leadership style. Zbad, Kreids, Fox are obviously tremendous players- it’s just that every winning team has those fire breathing soul guys too. You have to hold each other accountable. I don’t see Adam Fox going over to Mika and saying “wtf Mika…. Shoot that puck, or younleft me hanging- try harder”

Which is kind of nuts considering they play in what is arguably the MOST confrontational, in your face city in North America if not the world.

Reminds me a bit of how the Yankees are run these days, though that might be changing a bit.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

where the trades where the trade where the trades at

 

[SA16]

Olofsson had 17 goals at 5v5 just last year.

If we all agree that we aren’t looking to break the bank on a rental, the options aren’t going to be perfect. I’d rather trade for someone like Olofsson, try him with Kreider and Zibanejad and on PP2. PP2 could also use a shooter…

He's not a volume shooter at 5v5. Pretty much never has been. His 5v5 shot attempt rates are very similar to Mika's who everyone complains doesn't shoot enough. And yes, coincidentally the year he had 17 5v5 goals happened to be the year he shot 14.8% when his previous career high was 9.35%. Prior to last year he had 20 5v5 goals in his entire career (188 games). PP2 does not need a shooter because there is zero chance PP2 gets any significant ice time in the playoffs anyway. He also plays the right circle so you want him on PP2 over Laf?

 

[Daves a mess]

where the trades where the trade where the trades at

Give it away giving away give it away now

 

[kovazub94]

I hope most of you were able to adjust their perspective by now about what line is first and second this season. Panarin line is clearly superior at every spot so it should be with the second line “lenses” when we look at Kreider - Zibanejad.
From that perspective their contribution on special teams is a big plus rather than being discounted by looking at ES only. But ES should be improving now too with the addition of Vesey that brings not only the missing energy component but also an improvement in the defensive zone as at this point Vesey’s been superior to Wheeler.
My point is that even though Laviolette was forced by injury to move up Vesey (he should’ve done it on his own IMO) Drury should continue to stay the course in keeping acquisition of 3C over top-6 RW as his priority (and then to shift Brodzinski to be 4C).

 

[Fitzy]

You want to pay players for what you expect them to do, not what they have done.

Kreider's salary is perfectly in line for what he has contributed since his 1st game under this new deal.

Post signing.

20 in 50, 30+ goal pace
52 in 81
36 in 79
27 in 54 games this year, pacing for a possible 40 goal campaign.

Under 7 per?? That's slam dunk value.

You'll get no argument from me.

But anyone who claims they saw Kreider becoming a 35-40 goal man in his late 20's early 30's should be investigated either on on suspicion of obfuscating their clairvoyant capabilities, or rather for being disingenuous

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Was digging through numbers to further illustrate just how dog shit Lindgren has been (and oh has he been dog shit. he is Staal/Girarding Fox.)

Along the way I found this - since Jan 1 - Trouba of all people has actually posted good numbers. He will have his occasional ass hat game (Montreal) but under the hood everything else is about as good as one could hope from him.

#trade55

 

[RangerBoy]

Why do we want a guy that Sabres fans have wanted off this team for a while now? A team that is one of the most disappointing in hockey and about to miss the playoffs again.
The only thing I remember he could do against us is get a decent shot off on the pp.
PASS.

The Panthers made Vatrano a healthy scratch 11 times before the trade to the Rangers. Olofsson can't get into the lineup in Buffalo. Olofsson had 48 goals the previous two seasons. Very similar players. Skate and shoot.

Buffalo Sabres
Victor Olofsson
$4.75 million – Expiring Contract
2023-24: 35gp, 4g, 12p, 1.0 point shares

The main reason to look at Olofsson is his proficiency on the power play. He’s still looking for his first power play goal this season, but he posted seven each of the previous three years and 11 the year before. Part of the reason for his rough numbers this season is a shooting percentage of 8.7%, by far the lowest of his career. If that number can get back up near his average 13%, he could once again become a dangerous scoring threat. He does need to be used in a top-six role but there’s certainly an argument that there’s enough of a goal-scoring history to believe he can do it again with great linemates in Vegas.

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Buy low. Put Olofsson on RW with Mika and Kreider. Just shoot the puck.