I doubt it would happen but yeah, we know what Lindgren is so any type of reunion would be met with negativity from those of us who don’t really like the player.
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I doubt it would happen but yeah, we know what Lindgren is so any type of reunion would be met with negativity from those of us who don’t really like the player.
Be honest with me, do you really think Drury has any intention of trading him? Not what he should do but what he will do.
Machinehead
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n8
WAAAAAAA!!!
1C Edstrom is the new Boo Nieves
standard GM answer is "I'm always looking to make our team stronger"
DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
He's also bad at forechecking which wouldn't be a good thing if he's put on the wing.
Paulie Walnutz
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You kept Goodrow! Auto fail. Haha
Mid season? Probably not. I have more confidence that it’s possible after they separated him from Fox (almost as if they identified a problem there!) before Lindgren went and got hurt again.
I think there’s a 50/50 chance he gets moved this summer. This organization falls in love with guys like him but at the same time he was split from Fox so that’s progress.
Machinehead
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Ruined it with Jeannot
Machinehead
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He was split from Fox, but we lost that game so there's a 99% chance they're back together if Lindgren doesn't get hurt.
Paulie Walnutz
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I needed to get to the cap floor lol
Tampa offered him up for like 5th and 6th round picks and I have a ton of cap space and said f*** it. I was honestly expecting you to be more upset over Goodrow still being there after the scorched earth
Machinehead
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I just figured nobody wanted him.
Then again, GM's in this game are really random sometimes, and give you Tanner Jeannot for nothing.
It's a good lineup. It needs more Kreider but it's a good lineup.
kovazub94
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This should be the starting point of how things look for the rest of the season - the things that are not based purely on hope or positive development but rather on what we've had a history or analysis to base on:
1. Shesterkin is the first and foremost. Everything else below won't make ANY difference if the Russian doesn't regain at least his last year form (if he somehow turns around into Vesina level he held two years ago - there's no limit for this team
2. 3C position via trade route for the upgrade now that there's no uncertainty about Chytil returning. (side note how lucky is the team that Drury chose to sign Trocheck). Practically any reasonable get by Drury will be a guaranteed improvement over Bonino or Brodzinski and also could raise Cuylle and 3RW (Kakko?) performance
3. Lafreniere conversion percentage. He clearly ascended maintaining this new performance level from the start of the season so at some point the goals will start pouring in and probably at a higher rate to average out his bad puck luck so far. Wasn't he on mid-30 goals pace at around 1 month from the start of the season. Based on expected goals he should still be on that pace
4. Miller, Trouba and Lindgren all showed higher levels of play in the past so it's not unreasonable to expect at least some degree of positive turnaround. TBH I'm least confident in this one because Lindgren has been so easily injured over the last year and I have absolutely no idea what's going on in Miller's head but there's clearly something outside of hockey that's impacting his game and we have no idea if he'd be able to figure it out this season.
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This is no longer the case.
Last yr, less wear + tear, more term cheap, then yes, late 1st, possibly as hgh as 22OA-ish
but not now
now I think you get a 2nd from DET is best case IF YOU MOVE HIM NOW
I already said this, once he can play he should IMMEDIATELY be pivot betw Kreider and Zib, at least until we get Zegras, healthy and ready to try there.
I told you all years ago, nothing wrong with experimenting, be willing to TRY Zib at 1RW
I begged the board to be open minded and just, like give it a shot.
Not something we had to be married to.
But NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
While most respected my right to an opinion, most disagreed and the severest detractors continue to this day to not yield to the logic of experimentation here with an open mind.
bern is not always right all the time
but I wuz then and I am now
Lindgren and 2024 first for Hanifin and a 3rd (I only do this if Hanifin is re-signing. Immediate upgrade in our top 4)
2nd rounder and Robertson for Duclair and Sturm
2025 1st for Gourde
Note: no idea how far off I'm on these trades value wise
Kreider Zibanejad Duclair
Panarin Trocheck Lafreniere
Cuylle Gourde Kakko
Vesey Sturm Wheeler
Goodrow/Pitlick
Brodz is your black ace
Hanifin Fox
Miller Schneider
Gustafsson Trouba
Jones
Mackey is your black ace if needed. Also would not be shocked to see them trade a 7th or something for another depth guy in the Harpur mold
2nd rounder and Robertson for Duclair and Sturm
2025 1st for Gourde
Note: no idea how far off I'm on these trades value wise
Kreider Zibanejad Duclair
Panarin Trocheck Lafreniere
Cuylle Gourde Kakko
Vesey Sturm Wheeler
Goodrow/Pitlick
Brodz is your black ace
Hanifin Fox
Miller Schneider
Gustafsson Trouba
Jones
Mackey is your black ace if needed. Also would not be shocked to see them trade a 7th or something for another depth guy in the Harpur mold
No
You are paying Mika center money. Putting him on the wing, where he has never played is so funny, it’s not funny.
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Drury is taking calls on Kakko apparently. That has to be a bigger deal because you'd be selling low as an individual piece with plenty of team control.
It does give some credence to it's not just Chytil's money that they are using to upgrade. Sadly, if they had bought out Goodrow, they'd have that space.
Savant
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I wonder if there is something to be had around Kakko to Nashville to Novak. Not sure that I would do that, but gets the Ranger a legit middle six center, cuts cap pretty significantly relative to a Kakko deal. Means they don't need to pay Kakko's RFA raise. Novak has that NCAA background we like. And Vince M. keeps bringing his name up kind of out of nowhere. Not sure Nashville is selling. Not sure how I feel about it either way; but this team needs two centers either way. If they are going to use their FRP on one, going to need to get creative to get another. Wouldn't call this a slam dunk but there are somethings that make it kind of sensible? Dont think guys like Hayton/Pinto are moving so not a whole lot else in that salary tier.
Savant
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Don't really have a problem with the logic of this, but I would be trying to move Lindgren out before touching on Miller. Rangers don't have enough organizational D depth to implode that group, and there are simply guys that they should look at moving before Miller; albeit I am not opposed to that concept.
Machinehead
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NYRFAN218
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I don't see how it makes sense to trade Kakko. Trading him for a rental would be insanely dumb and I don't see him carrying enough value for a "significant piece" whatever that means given he's on pace for 18 points over 82 games this season. Not to mention you're depleting an already weak right side. At this point, I would say his value is more to the team than his trade value.
Fitzy
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You never know with such a high draft pick, there might always be a GM or two lurking around absolutely certain that they can turn him into the 70 point player he was expected to be when drafted.
EdJovanovski
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Machinehead
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My response is the same as when people bring up similar arguments about Lindgren -- nobody is bringing back a significant piece 1-to-1.
Kakko could be part of a package that brings back a significant piece. He's a player that would be interesting to teams along with other pieces. That's why he's being discussed, although being discussed obviously means nothing imminent.
Kakko isn't a player that's so bad I need him run out of town, but he's a player we could probably live with trading if the circumstances were right.
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