Roster Building thread - Part IX - (2024 edition)

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Harpur was dependable last season down the stretch for us. Gustafsson played well with more minutes this year when Fox was out. Scandella is a solid depth defenseman. But lets roll with Miller who is mentally fragile right now instead and let his value drop further with his poor play and Lindgren who we have all said plays a style that isn't sustainable like Dan Girardi.
No big deal, you say that you’ve rolled out a D worthy of a playoff run and I say it isn’t. Agree to disagree
 
Missed that part of it. Still the same issue of them being in a playoff spot and it's not really worth trading him for a mid round pick. I don't think they can really rebuild all their best players are signed long term. Parayko, Krug, Faulk, Schenn, Thomas, Kryou all make 6.5M+ for at least 4 more years. Think they'd be more likely to add than subtract based on where they are and what the organization looks like.

I think St Louis falls out of it and sells.
 
I think St Louis falls out of it and sells.

How are they selling? Unless they're dealing Buch, they have basically nothing of value that isn't signed for 4+ years. It's not really an option. They'd have to go on a massive losing streak over the next few weeks all so they can get like a 4th round pick for Kevin Hayes or Brandon Saad. Most of the teams behind them in the standings aren't any good so I'm not so sure they fall out of it.
 
Honestly unless it was something super cheap, which it probably won't be, I wouldn't touch Monahan with a 10 foot pole. Great player, injuries have derailed his career the last few years. Is this year some turning of the corner in that aspect? Maybe, but I wouldn't put money in it. I would not trust that guy to be healthy unfortunately. His injury history is a laundry list. The last thing we need is to be giving up a first or a 2nd + and then the guy gets hurt and we made the move for nothing
 
Honestly unless it was something super cheap, which it probably won't be, I wouldn't touch Monahan with a 10 foot pole. Great player, injuries have derailed his career the last few years. Is this year some turning of the corner in that aspect? Maybe, but I wouldn't put money in it. I would not trust that guy to be healthy unfortunately. His injury history is a laundry list. The last thing we need is to be giving up a first or a 2nd + and then the guy gets hurt and we made the move for nothing

Gorton and Monahan’s agent working OT to pump of this guys value. Let PIT pay for him to miss the playoffs. Huge mistake on our end if that’s who we target.
 
The NYR were going to have to address the severe LACK of centers in the system at some point.

Now that Chyts is all but calling it a career it's time to bite the bullet. They're going to have to ID someone who can be attained.

Someone who can be part of the core.

Someone special.

They're going to have to pay a ridic price.

But they're going to have to do it.

Otherwise, they may as well start thinking rebuild again.
 
The NYR were going to have to address the severe LACK of centers in the system at some point.

Now that Chyts is all but calling it a career it's time to bite the bullet. They're going to have to ID someone who can be attained.

Someone who can be part of the core.

Someone special.

They're going to have to pay a ridic price.

But they're going to have to do it.

Otherwise, they may as well start thinking rebuild again.
Who said Chytil is calling it a career? He just put out statement saying he will be back next year. Nobody knows what is going to happen and the only thing the Rangers absolutely need to do is target a viable 3c for this year. I do agree they need to start drafting centers.

Only the Rangers could go into a full tear down rebuild and exit out the other side with not a single long term center.
BMB could be one.
 
Who said Chytil is calling it a career? He just put out statement saying he will be back next year. Nobody knows what is going to happen and the only thing the Rangers absolutely need to do is target a viable 3c for this year. I do agree they need to start drafting centers.
Even if he wants to come back, the odds are slim that he's going to be able to continue. The Rangers would be foolish to be planning their future roster with Chytil as a significant part of it.
 
Only the Rangers could go into a full tear down rebuild and exit out the other side with not a single long term center.
I’m heavily into the “draft centers” philosophy, but it’s hard to pin any blame on the team in this situation.

They won the lottery in consecutive years when wingers were the easy consensus picks. They grabbed a very good center in the late first round who is seeing his career derailed by injury.

They tried to grab a safe, middle six C in 2017 and he busted. Necas always should have been the pick but they did draft a C.

I still think Kravtsov got a raw deal here, but there really weren’t any centers available at that spot anyway. They made a huge mistake taking a goalie with the second in 2018 instead of Drury, but Jack is just a guy.

I kill this team for a lot of the dumb shit they do but their center situation at the moment is more a result of circumstances beyond their control than it is poor decision making in my opinion.
 
Even if he wants to come back, the odds are slim that he's going to be able to continue. The Rangers would be foolish to be planning their future roster with Chytil as a significant part of it.
I was just stating that Chytil absolutely did not say his career was over. Stuff like that drives me nuts because it's pure speculation and incorrect since he put out a statement saying quite the opposite. I did say the number 1 concern is finding a viable 3c for this year. I'm not sure a bigger deal can be made right now and maybe that is something they can explore in the off season.
 
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How are they selling? Unless they're dealing Buch, they have basically nothing of value that isn't signed for 4+ years. It's not really an option. They'd have to go on a massive losing streak over the next few weeks all so they can get like a 4th round pick for Kevin Hayes or Brandon Saad. Most of the teams behind them in the standings aren't any good so I'm not so sure they fall out of it.

If they deal Buch, Hayes and Scandella they will get a pretty good haul back. Likely 1st, 2nd, 3rd at minimum. That’s a good kickstart to a retool

It’s not that uncommon for a team to have a good, not great 3C and do well. The Rangers have Trochek and Mika. If they find a good 3C who can fill a role, they’ll be fine. They don’t need Zegras or someone like that to compete.
 
The NYR were going to have to address the severe LACK of centers in the system at some point.

Now that Chyts is all but calling it a career it's time to bite the bullet. They're going to have to ID someone who can be attained.

Someone who can be part of the core.

Someone special.

They're going to have to pay a ridic price.

But they're going to have to do it.

Otherwise, they may as well start thinking rebuild again.
Hes not calling it a career. He’s sitting out the season
 
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Need to stop thinking short term on filling the center issue. I hate to say it but at this point chytil is a bonus if he plays again for an extended period based on the history of his career. There is nothing to suggest he can, and if his head injuries are becoming serious enough to can a season then the org needs to start recognizing reality.
 
Can't even read some of these comments. Team was unbeatable with average goaltending the first two months. Now their goaltending (Igor) is deplorable, Zibanejad has a wretched January and people think they're not adding and should rebuild. Wtf are you guys watching this team for? Seriously. I don't mean this to be offensive but again, have your opinions, I have mine, but let's get real. They're not standing pat. Chris Drury wasn't hired to not try and win a Cup. They have a solid team. They have played two months with Nick ****** Bonino, Jonny Brodzinski and Barclay Goodrow as their bottom-six play-driving Cs.
Call Minnesota. Maybe Guerin, knowing he ****** the cap up is willing to shuffle guys out. Ask about Hartman.
 
Can't even read some of these comments. Team was unbeatable with average goaltending the first two months. Now their goaltending (Igor) is deplorable, Zibanejad has a wretched January and people think they're not adding and should rebuild. Wtf are you guys watching this team for? Seriously. I don't mean this to be offensive but again, have your opinions, I have mine, but let's get real. They're not standing pat. Chris Drury wasn't hired to not try and win a Cup. They have a solid team. They have played two months with Nick ****** Bonino, Jonny Brodzinski and Barclay Goodrow as their bottom-six play-driving Cs.
Call Minnesota. Maybe Guerin, knowing he ****** the cap up is willing to shuffle guys out. Ask about Hartman.
As other coaches have blatantly said...

Their offense is "gimmicky."

Other teams have the book now... And it's easy to disrupt.

This is the blueprint for a team that will fail in a 7 game series because their offense doesn't come from talent or systems.

This is not a core I want to add to.
 
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Even if he wants to come back, the odds are slim that he's going to be able to continue. The Rangers would be foolish to be planning their future roster with Chytil as a significant part of it.

It’s this. The Rangers need to do what they can to pry a young center who can be or already is top 6 from someone. You tell Chytil if he ever wants to come back for this team, he better get used to being a right wing. You can’t keep patchworking center in hopes that he returns and stays in the lineup. The position is too important
 
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