Roster Building thread - Part IX - (2024 edition)

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Hughes over Kakko
Stutzle over Laf
Necas over Andersson
Dobson over Kravtsov
Tarasenko over McIlrath


Would've made huge differences

Laf is going to be better than Stutzle for a lower price. Stutzle is a featherweight Olympic diver putting up PP while his big brother Brady fights his battles. Laf is a hard nosed even strength guy. He’s a keeper
 

For the idiots

And I sincerely mean that

People talking about this guy isn’t a 1C this guy shouldn’t haven’t been resigned. You’re talking about one of the best Rangers centers ever. Maybe one of their best players ever. And we’re bitching about a 45 game stretch where he’s still pretty much a point a game player? STFU. Don’t get spoiled it can get WAY worse there are much darker times in our history than being in first place 47 games into a season believe me.

Haven’t you been trashing Igor, a Vezina winner, every chance you get? I imagine it’s because you expect better, not because you don’t appreciate the talent he’s brought in the past. It’s the same with Zibanejad. Settle down with the hyperbole.
 
Haven’t you been trashing Igor, a Vezina winner, every chance you get? I imagine it’s because you expect better, not because you don’t appreciate the talent he’s brought in the past. It’s the same with Zibanejad. Settle down with the hyperbole.

I have yes that’s one season. Wasn’t great last year either. Now Igor is literally playing worse than any goalie in the league. Literally.

Mika has 500 points. Mika is still putting up basically a point per game.

It’s not the same
 
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This team needs Igor to get his confidence and swagger back. They need him. But I would split the workload, with an edge to Quick, in the near future until Igor proves himself. 60/40 Quick. You cant go much more than that or you may shatter whatever is left of Igor’s confidence plus he has to play to figure it out
 
While I can agree with prevailing opinions regarding Quick and Igor, I can't help but ask myself if the reason Quick is playing so well is due to the fact that he's NOT being overused. I suppose most would throw caution to the winds considering Igor's recent performances.....but I would want a fairly rested Quick come playoff time if Igor is continuing to struggle. (I believe Rangers make the playoffs despite recent events.)
 
I have yes that’s one season. Wasn’t great last year either. Now Igor is literally playing worse than any goalie in the league. Literally.

Mika has 500 points. Mika is still putting up basically a point per game.

It’s not the same
Bullshit. Mika currently is not a 1C that you can win with in the playoffs just like Igor is currently not a starting goalie that can win you a cup. It's exactly the same.
 
This team will not finish the year in first place. It is not a good team.
The 94 Rangers were a team of great players who played hard. This team is the complete opposite of that.
Don't buy at the deadline, you can't trade for enough turnover to actually make the team good. We need more than 2 or 4 players. The team needs about 9 new players. That can only be done with a rebuild. Start it at the end of the year sine they should be like WC1 or 2 by deadline and no one sells in that position.
I have said it over and over but this team is not under performing, this is who they are. To expect a turnaround is to expect an over performance. We only have 1 actual NHL line. So odds are stacked against them.
They will win their fair share against non-playoff teams and lose 9 out of 10 to playoffs teams the rest of the way. That will keep them in postseason position because their start was really good.
Problem is the contracts and NMCs really handcuff them. This is going to suck for us, the players will still get paid though.
Wc1 or 2? In your dreams. Of course I realize you do dream about failure. Rangers fans, SMH
 
How long until the shiny new wears off on Mackey and fans stop putting in the playoff lineup. There’s a reason guys like him and Brod are playing in the AHL. Sure he accepted a fights from dumbass Tkachuk. He can show that clip to his grandkids.
 
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For the idiots

And I sincerely mean that

People talking about this guy isn’t a 1C this guy shouldn’t haven’t been resigned. You’re talking about one of the best Rangers centers ever. Maybe one of their best players ever. And we’re bitching about a 45 game stretch where he’s still pretty much a point a game player? STFU. Don’t get spoiled it can get WAY worse there are much darker times in our history than being in first place 47 games into a season believe me.
This is where we disagree.

The guy simply is not an effective even strength skater. He's producing at a bottom six NHL center rate at even strength. Doesn't go to the middle of the ice. Can't manufacture any offense at even strength that isn't off the rush.

He's a power play specialist at this stage of the game. He WAS a top line center that was effective in all three zones. He got paid and doesn't want to put in the work anymore.
 
How long until the shiny new wears off on Mackey and fans stop putting in the playoff lineup. There’s a reason guys like him and Brod are playing in the AHL. Sure he accepted a fights from dumbass Tkachuk. He can show that clip to his grandkids.

He’s not an NHL dman, credit to him for the fight and spark, but his play isn’t good.
 
Among the 207 C's who've played at least 200mins at 5v5 this season, Zibanejad is
97th in 5v5 P/60
134th in 5v5 G/60

The only C's getting paid more and producing at a lower rate league-wide than Zibanejad are Tavares, Laine (injured) and Backstrom (injured).

but yes, tell us more about how great Zibanejad is playing.
 
This is where we disagree.

The guy simply is not an effective even strength skater. He's producing at a bottom six NHL center rate at even strength. Doesn't go to the middle of the ice. Can't manufacture any offense at even strength that isn't off the rush.

He's a power play specialist at this stage of the game. He WAS a top line center that was effective in all three zones. He got paid and doesn't want to put in the work anymore.
He’s not even good on the Powerplay anymore
 
Who can look up how many one timers he has actually scored on this year? He misses the net at what seems like double the rate than he registers a SOG with them.
It’s not just the midtimer.

He stays as far away from the center of the ice as possible, he’s always mushed up against the boards near the blue line, all he can do is either turn it over or try and get rid of the puck and give it back to Fox or Panarin at the point to relieve pressure . He’s useless.

Remember when he would shoot from everywhere? The Ovi office, the bumper, the point? And he would take wrist shots too, not just one timers?

Those were the days…
 
Wc1 or 2? In your dreams. Of course I realize you do dream about failure. Rangers fans, SMH
You wish!

I dream of them having a good team that you could have confidence in and are fun to watch. Just like every other curmudgeon on this board. I don't think this team is it, but doesn't mean I don't want them to win. Holy shit I want to be wrong.
 
Among the 207 C's who've played at least 200mins at 5v5 this season, Zibanejad is
97th in 5v5 P/60
134th in 5v5 G/60

The only C's getting paid more and producing at a lower rate league-wide than Zibanejad are Tavares, Laine (injured) and Backstrom (injured).

but yes, tell us more about how great Zibanejad is playing.

The NHL's classification of player positions is incredibly poor for reference. They have guys like Huberdeau who are not centers whatsoever listed as center. I did a quick filter and of those 207 players listed at center about 80 of them are either not centers at all or play both positions. If you're trying to compare center performance just clicking the "Center" button is not going to do the job.
 
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