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Roster Building thread - Part IX - (2024 edition)

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Poor Fil. Hopefully shut him down and an extended rest can help him get fully healthy.

As far as the roster goes, trading for a center just officially became a necessity if it wasn't already.

What are we looking at for realistic targets? Cap won't matter too much with Fil on LTIR for the rest of the year. Ideally we could target a center who brings a specific skill set - hopefully someone with speed and tenacity to drop between Cuylle and Kakko and make a solid 3rd line. Who could we be looking at to target? Feels like the trade market is going to be pretty limited because basically everyone except for 6-7 teams are still trying to make the playoffs.

Outside of Monahan and Henrique - who else could be on the radar?
 
NYR Viper said:
The way to develop Schnedier is to open up the spot but go get a good 3rd pairing RD and pay for him on a short deal. @RangerBoy mentioned Demelo, I mentioned Schultz. There are options this off-season.

The other thing is to trade Lindgren and go sign someone like Dillon, Cole or Edmundson. Short term deals. Bigger guys who also play a physical game. They'll cost very little and they should get an asset or two back for Lindgren.
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Look before you leap
these 3 might otherwise be sensible, but can they still skate?
Not smart to further restrict salary by adding pylons

Again, Drury, ditch Jones and play Robertson NOW NOW NOW NOW

Profet said:
We have more "success" with older washed up players than we do with drafted youth.

Let that sink in.
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NO, this ^ is among the most idiotic things I have read on this board.
You do not bend, buckle and break in capitulation to your weaknesses, which are as temporary or ongoing as you make by your decisions/behavior.

No, you spend $$$ and get smarter people and also specialists better at developing youth and you turn negative into positive

STOP W/INSTANT FIX WIN NOW
 
bernmeister said:
NO, this ^ is among the most idiotic things I have read on this board.
You do not bend, buckle and break in capitulation to your weaknesses, which are as temporary or ongoing as you make by your decisions/behavior.
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This "temporary" weakness has been an issue since the late 90's.

I agree it's idiotic.. but it's a fact.

For whatever reason, this team can't develop/draft talent.
 
Vitto79 said:
If Chyti is seriously out permanately they can target a guy with term now

Even just a 1 yr like Buchnevich
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cost, cost cost
all of which has long term implications

stop
hang on til Estrom back, Ed is the new Boo Nieves, place at pivot btw Kreid + Zib. Different skill set but same formula:
Kreider = driver of play
ed = facilitator
Zib = scorer

Chytil hurts
Only smart 'immediate' = short term move is
Othmann + Goodrow reduced 1.6x to 2.0 + Bonino + 2nd
for
Zegras [broken leg but back before POs] + Helleson + 3rd

Bonino = ass but can be specialty coach for FOs, Ducks ok w/him on payroll half a season for that
core of that deal is a W w/more team control for a C who will want out and force a trade in 2 yrs.
Ducks need W, we want C

Lindgren + Jones
for
Rasmussen + 2nd

play Robertson

temporary stopgaps aside:
Kreider - Edstrom - Zib
bread - tro - LaF
Cuyle - Zegras - Kakko
Vesey - Rasmussen - Rempe

KAM - fox
Rob - Schneid
Gust - Trouba
 
Glen Sathers Cigar said:
Outside of Monahan and Henrique - who else could be on the radar?
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The Chytil money opens up doors, it just sucks to say it.

One of my first calls is to Columbus. Columbus is going to move pieces out and the insiders are already talking about Laine being available and Provorov. They want to hit the reset button their bigger moves the last two offseasons.

Two guys there can solve some issues. Roslovic and Texier are my targets and if I could, I'd trade for both.

Roslovic solves a 3C issue the roster has in Chytil's absence. He is a right handed shot, which means your top 3 Cs are all right handed, but Laviolette is going to use Goodrow in those spots anyway. UFA at the end of the season, but you can see how it goes and if he is worth bringing back. You get them to retain 50%.

Texier is the swiss army knife forward that the roster needs. Solid on the PK, can play all 3 forward positions, and would be under team control for two more years I believe. Arbitration guy at the end of the year, but he's not in line for a big raise or a raise at all.
 
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We need to look, likely at the teams who are out of it already so that's:
Columbus - Jenner + Roslovic
Chicago - No one
Ottawa - MAYBE Pinto, but that seems unlikely now
Buffalo - No one
Montreal - Monahan
Minnesota - No one
Calgary - Lindholm
Anaheim - Henrique
San Jose - Sturm

Maybe Arizona - Bjugstad, Kerfoot, Hayton
Maybe Pittsburgh - Eller?


The one that makes some sense, depending on the cost, is Roslovic. He's more of an offensive center who has showed the ability to produce at times. If he works out, he could be kept. But it all depends on the cost.
 
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You know what kills me about this team?

There is absolute zero salary cap on:

- Trainers
- Medical Staff
- Coaching Staff
- Equipment
- Amateur Scouting Staff
- Analytics Departments
- Professional Scouting Staff


How in the hell do we lag so far behind every team in the league?
 
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Profet said:
This "temporary" weakness has been an issue since the late 90's.

I agree it's idiotic.. but it's a fact.

For whatever reason, this team can't develop/draft talent.
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But the solution is what I said, not more of the same

We drafted Krav
I deferred to conventional wisdom here, but noted with an asterisk, I wanted Dobson

I get a lot right and a lot wrong
But we need smarter choices

And we must conscientiously go there

I saw "Moonstruck" the other night, my 2nd fave Norman Jewison film ever after "And Justice for All".
This discussion reminds me of what Cher yells at Nicholas Cage and says:
'SNAP OUT OF IT"

JimmyG89 said:
The Chytil money opens up doors, it just sucks to say it.

One of my first calls is to Columbus. Columbus is going to move pieces out and the insiders are already talking about Laine being available and Provorov. They want to hit the reset button their bigger moves the last two offseasons.

Two guys there can solve some issues. Roslovic and Texier are my targets and if I could, I'd trade for both.

Roslovic solves a 3C issue the roster has in Chytil's absence. He is a right handed shot, which means your top 3 Cs are all right handed, but Laviolette is going to use Goodrow in those spots anyway. UFA at the end of the season, but you can see how it goes and if he is worth bringing back. You get them to retain 50%.

Texier is the swiss army knife forward that the roster needs. Solid on the PK, can play all 3 forward positions, and would be under team control for two more years I believe. Arbitration guy at the end of the year, but he's not in line for a big raise or a raise at all.
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Laine is huge cap hit long term for a 1 dimensional guy who can shoot and nothing else
pass all day

I will consider if someone can show exception to the rule
but the rule here + now is not throw good resources after bad w/stupid, STUPID RENTALS
 
Let's get crazy. Is Calgary willing to eat 50% of Kadri?

Kadri @ 50%
Hanifin

For

1st
Kakko
Lindgren
 
Glen Sathers Cigar said:
Poor Fil. Hopefully shut him down and an extended rest can help him get fully healthy.

As far as the roster goes, trading for a center just officially became a necessity if it wasn't already.

What are we looking at for realistic targets? Cap won't matter too much with Fil on LTIR for the rest of the year. Ideally we could target a center who brings a specific skill set - hopefully someone with speed and tenacity to drop between Cuylle and Kakko and make a solid 3rd line. Who could we be looking at to target? Feels like the trade market is going to be pretty limited because basically everyone except for 6-7 teams are still trying to make the playoffs.

Outside of Monahan and Henrique - who else could be on the radar?
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Not much from a UFA perspective - T Johnson and Roslovic?
 
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bernmeister said:
cost, cost cost
all of which has long term implications

stop
hang on til Estrom back, Ed is the new Boo Nieves, place at pivot btw Kreid + Zib. Different skill set but same formula:
Kreider = driver of play
ed = facilitator
Zib = scorer

Chytil hurts
Only smart 'immediate' = short term move is
Othmann + Goodrow reduced 1.6x to 2.0 + Bonino + 2nd
for
Zegras [broken leg but back before POs] + Helleson + 3rd

Bonino = ass but can be specialty coach for FOs, Ducks ok w/him on payroll half a season for that
core of that deal is a W w/more team control for a C who will want out and force a trade in 2 yrs.
Ducks need W, we want C

Lindgren + Jones
for
Rasmussen + 2nd

play Robertson

temporary stopgaps aside:
Kreider - Edstrom - Zib
bread - tro - LaF
Cuyle - Zegras - Kakko
Vesey - Rasmussen - Rempe

KAM - fox
Rob - Schneid
Gust - Trouba
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You live in fantasy land so come back to reality on what they realistically may do not a complete overhaul.
 
Clark Kellogg said:
I have no faith in this group. I don’t believe by bringing in anyone or two individuals will drive this team trough the playoffs.
I agree that Chytil should be shut down for the season and what ever cap room of his 4.3 million is available should be used by Drury to be the intermediary to facilitate other clubs in making trades.
Get prospects and or picks.
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As the season moves along guys will be made available. But I am with you I am not trading anything significant to bring in someone "big"
This team is still a playoff team so I think Drury will use that money to help the club but I just hope he doesn't trade a top 5/6 prospect or a first rounder.
I'm hoping for a 4th rounder for Vatrano kind of deal.
 
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