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Roster Building Thread - Part II: Entry Draft Edition

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Miz said:
Couldn't a package of Kakko and Lundkvist get something better and younger on the market than a UFA 32 year old Kadri at 50%? I'd be pretty disappointed if this happened.
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Exactly. Kakko and Lundkvist gets you PLD and a 2nd round pick or something like that.

I really hope Drury is taking his smart pills this week.
 
DanielBrassard said:
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He's ok. I wouldn't mind Trocheck and I do like that he's a RH shot if he's playing with Panarin.
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Those are actually better than the analytics I saw for him (at least the xGA.)

He's better than Strome and he wins face offs which would appease some people and me because I won't have to hear about it anymore but he seems like hes more of the same.
 
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Uninstaaled said:
Those are actually better than the analytics I saw for him (at least the xGA.)

He's better than Strome and he wins face offs which would appease some people and me because I won't have to hear about it anymore but he seems like hes more of the same.
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How would we win faceoffs on the left side when our top two centers are right hand shots?
 
Would love Kadri and if we could go high on the hit to go short on term while having retention (if that’s even possible) that’d be a huge win. But, I wouldn’t move Kakko to do that. Nils + absolutely
 
Kadri stuff aside, Brooks is the first of the local writers to suggest NYR may not see Kakko in the long-term plans. He's not wrong that circumstantial evidence points to it.
 
Trocheck is like adding Matt Cullen. It's doing something but not what should be done.

All these names being floated around and not a single one helps the Rangers beyond a year or two and wrecks our already tight cap situation.

PLD is literally the only one that makes logical sense if he's signed right after he's traded for. At 24 years old he'd be a part of the core moving forward and beyond. He'd take over 1C when Zibanejad is gone.

Even Copp is going to get badly overpaid. If you're paying up for a center at least it should be for a player that's young and fits this window and future windows.
 
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McRanger92 said:
Kadri stuff aside, Brooks is the first of the local writers to suggest NYR may not see Kakko in the long-term plans. He's not wrong that circumstantial evidence points to it.
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it doesnt take a rocket scientist to see this possibility materializing, and to further add to things he is not a drury pick. if grots was still here it would be much harder to picture kakko moving but...
 
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I think a sign and trade involving Kadri would be high AAV short term deal so Drury can get him at a term he likes and Kadri gets way more AAV than he’d get otherwise. Think 3 years at 10-11M. Half cost being 5-5.5. No team is committing cap for more than 2-3 seasons anyway. Things change too quickly. But realistically, teams like Arizona and Chicago aren’t performing a turnaround quick enough where they need the cap space in fewer than 3 seasons.

What’s the cost for Arizona or Chicago to cover 5-5.5M for 3 seasons?
 
bbny said:
I think a sign and trade involving Kadri would be high AAV short term deal so Drury can get him at a term he likes and Kadri gets way more AAV than he’d get otherwise. Think 3 years at 10-11M. Half cost being 5-5.5. No team is committing cap for more than 2-3 seasons anyway. Things change too quickly. But realistically, teams like Arizona and Chicago aren’t performing a turnaround quick enough where they need the cap space in fewer than 3 seasons.

What’s the cost for Arizona or Chicago to cover 5-5.5M for 3 seasons?
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Probably more than Kakko or Lundkvist+ lol.
 
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bbny said:
I think a sign and trade involving Kadri would be high AAV short term deal so Drury can get him at a term he likes and Kadri gets way more AAV than he’d get otherwise. Think 3 years at 10-11M. Half cost being 5-5.5. No team is committing cap for more than 2-3 seasons anyway. Things change too quickly. But realistically, teams like Arizona and Chicago aren’t performing a turnaround quick enough where they need the cap space in fewer than 3 seasons.

What’s the cost for Arizona or Chicago to cover 5-5.5M for 3 seasons?
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what did edm just pay for arz to take kassian ?
 
GENESISPuck94 said:
Trocheck is like adding Matt Cullen. It's doing something but not what should be done.

All these names being floated around and not a single one helps the Rangers beyond a year or two and wrecks our already tight cap situation.

PLD is literally the only one that makes logical sense if he's signed right after he's traded for. At 24 years old he'd be a part of the core moving forward and beyond. He'd take over 1C when Zibanejad is gone.

Even Copp is going to get badly overpaid. If you're paying up for a center at least it should be for a player that's young and fits this window and future windows.
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I'd like PLD....and no matter who we would trade for, its gonna cost us someone on the current roster thats going to hurt....it just has to.....because we are looking for talented players, and we will have to give talent back.

That being said...if I'm trading young talent away that we would hate to see go (KK, Lundy, even Schneider, etc.), I would love to get Elias Lindholm....checks all boxes. There is historical interest there....this is the guy who would make a huge difference for us
 
Arizona hasn't been shy about buying prospects before. Thats exactly what teams do when they take on a bad contract/LTIR contract for an asset.

Don't think thats worth Kakko but Nils? Absolutely.

Has to be at a good term though. Anything above 4 and I'm out.
 
I'd rather trade for both Haula and Glendening which gives you cheap (cap hits) and two centers that are among the best in the league at winning faceoffs.

If the alternatives are Malkin, Miller, Kadri, Kane...

Trocheck is a better option than those guys but do we really want to overpay a 29 year old Trocheck?

Imagine having any kind of center in the system, at all, that could play a role. What a disaster.
 
GENESISPuck94 said:
Trocheck is like adding Matt Cullen. It's doing something but not what should be done.

All these names being floated around and not a single one helps the Rangers beyond a year or two and wrecks our already tight cap situation.

PLD is literally the only one that makes logical sense if he's signed right after he's traded for. At 24 years old he'd be a part of the core moving forward and beyond. He'd take over 1C when Zibanejad is gone.

Even Copp is going to get badly overpaid. If you're paying up for a center at least it should be for a player that's young and fits this window and future windows.
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fair enough. Are you trading Kakko, Nils/Berard, a 1st and a 2nd for him? My worry is his long term price tag. We are paying two d men 8 million and 9.5 million. we are paying zib and panarin 20 million. what if he wants 8 million or more to play here? Can we sign Miller and Laffy? that is my concern.
 
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