Roster Building Thread - Part II: Entry Draft Edition

[McRanger92]

It may not happen here but he is getting 8 mil from someone.

I think he will need to leave some AAV on the table if he wants to continue to play on a contender. It's not different than any of the other centers on the UFA market.

 

[bl02]

Guy is 32 just won a cup what could possibly go wrong by giving him a 6-7 year deal? Hmmm. I wonder

 

[EdJovanovski]

Brooksie just dropped a bomb regarding Kadri. Sign and trade with a team like Chicago or Arizona and thy retain half if we send them a package around Kakko/Lundkvist.

I will believe it when I see it, but Larry suggesting it as a realistic option gives some credibility to these rumor imo.

The great Larry Brooks

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Hope this report by Frank Seravalli is wrong concerning Rangers and Nazem Kadri. 14:25 mark. Fingers uncrossed.

Damn that's not just like mentioning in passing, it seems like he wants to be connected to this rumor because he truly believes that this is happening

 

[LOFIN]

i was replying to someone else who used the nuke deal to justify kadri getting 8+ for 5 years. if kadri gets 8+ it will be for 3 years. if it goes 5 years than the aav starts to come down. kadri would be such a mistake.

Oh I agree. Would love Kadri here, but can't be done capwise and shouldn't be done for over 4 years anyway. But some team is going to offer that to him make no mistake about it.

 

[Synergy27]

Guy is 32 just won a cup what could possibly go wrong by giving him a 6-7 year deal? Hmmm. I wonder

There’s something to be said for bringing guys with championship pedigree into the fold, but there’s also something to be said for buying guys that are still hungry for a taste of the Cup. Kadri is a nice player but his continued motivation scares me.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I'm leaning towards @bleedblue94 and think this is actually forbidden in the CBA. I'm also pretty sure if Brooksie heard about such a rumour, the league has heard about it and basically sent a memo "don't do it".

The last time similar circumvention was used when Colorado traded for Grubauer and Orpik, bought Orpik out and then Caps re-signed him. The league basically sent out a memo saying Colorado and Washington were not going to be punished because technically that was allowed, but any team trying to pull similar BS in the future would be hit. After this there was the Tampa LTIR-stuff, I think the league really doesn't want to have anything of this sort going on. Let alone it being with Arizona which is a controversial team anyway...

I don't think the league can stop it from happening if the rules don't state that its illegal.

Also ultimate f***ery scenario -

Rangers land both Kadri AND Kane with salary retained using both Chicago and Arizona as salary retaining vessels. I don't even want this to happen, but for sheer summer entertainment it doesn't get any better than that. The whining that would commence from other fan bases would be top level and it would make what Montreal did at the draft look as exciting as going apple picking.

 

[DialUp]

That Brooks Kadri article gave me covid.

 

[Bluto]

Any chance the Rangers can convince Gretzky and Messier to come out of retirement and play 2/3C for us? Can't be any worse than the other ideas being thrown about.

 

[Zynbanejad]

Why are people still talking about old man Stastny? Have we not learned by now?

 

[bleedblue94]

i dont know for sure that the sign and retain is prohibited but it makes sense that it would be rejected by the league in some fashion bc the league will not allow you to trade play x to a team, have them retain and trade the player back to you until a year goes by. it would be beyond idiotic for the league to not see this sign, retain, trade scenario happening.

 

[rangers1314]

Rangers continue to be linked to Nazem Kadri — here’s how they can pull it off

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

I'm all for exploiting loopholes. I didnt care when Tampa did it and thought people whining about it were dumb.

This seems like its pushing the envelope a bit too far though. If its legal, hey lets f*** with it.

Dude, i love your posts and we always get into discussions but you need to pick one and stick with it here.. Either you are okay with it or not. There are no degrees of cheating, you cheat or dont cheat.

You are ok with other teams cheating but with us you say its a bit too far?

 

[Thirty One]

That Brooks Kadri article gave me covid.

How much will it cost to have Arizona or Chicago eat $3.5-4.0M for five years or more? We haven't seen anything close to that.

 

[bleedblue94]

Oh I agree. Would love Kadri here, but can't be done capwise and shouldn't be done for over 4 years anyway. But some team is going to offer that to him make no mistake about it.

8x3maybe, 8x5 i would be floored. maybe 7x5? either way i dont want that here, i dont want him here either.

 

[NYR Viper]

Again, I'd rather Malkin for 3 years + Kaako than Kadri @ 50% for 5-7 years

 

[HonestGabe]

Brooks has totally left the reservation

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

I'm leaning towards @bleedblue94 and think this is actually forbidden in the CBA. I'm also pretty sure if Brooksie heard about such a rumour, the league has heard about it and basically sent a memo "don't do it".

The last time similar circumvention was used when Colorado traded for Grubauer and Orpik, bought Orpik out and then Caps re-signed him. The league basically sent out a memo saying Colorado and Washington were not going to be punished because technically that was allowed, but any team trying to pull similar BS in the future would be hit. After this there was the Tampa LTIR-stuff, I think the league really doesn't want to have anything of this sort going on. Let alone it being with Arizona which is a controversial team anyway...

CBA allows it do go on every year. Every season one team or another is cheating. A memo didnt stop them before and isnt going to stop teams from doing just that this season and beyond.

 

[17futurecap]

The totally normal team taking on 50% of a contract for 7 years.

 

[B17 Apricots]

Trocheck would be a phenomenal add.. but like all the other targets it all depends on the term and $. I'd be surprised if he comes in under 6... if I'm a team with cap space I'd have zero issue giving him close to 7 with term. He hits, good on the dot, has the talent to be a 70 point player.. if he were here playing next to Panarin I could see him having a career year. That being said, how long are we going to delay promoting the young players?

 

[bl02]

Any chance the Rangers can convince Gretzky and Messier to come out of retirement and play 2/3C for us? Can't be any worse than the other ideas being thrown about.

Why did we even bother to get number 1 and 2 overall picks including a stud dman in Miller when we can barely sign them lol. We are talking about taking on 32 and 36 year old centers for 6 million plus.
Hopefully this is just pure entertainment and CD comes no where near signing these over 30 year old guys for big money and term.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

No one is giving Kadri 7 years.

 

[Thirty One]

I'm leaning towards @bleedblue94 and think this is actually forbidden in the CBA. I'm also pretty sure if Brooksie heard about such a rumour, the league has heard about it and basically sent a memo "don't do it".

The last time similar circumvention was used when Colorado traded for Grubauer and Orpik, bought Orpik out and then Caps re-signed him. The league basically sent out a memo saying Colorado and Washington were not going to be punished because technically that was allowed, but any team trying to pull similar BS in the future would be hit. After this there was the Tampa LTIR-stuff, I think the league really doesn't want to have anything of this sort going on. Let alone it being with Arizona which is a controversial team anyway...

I don't think it's circumvention anymore than using a third team to broker an existing contract is.

I also had no issue with the Orpik thing. They paid a hefty price to get Orpik's contract off the books.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

It's absolutely insane that Larry thinks ANY team is willing to take on 50% of $7M for 7 years. Beyond ridiculous.

 

[Hire Sather]

Sign and trade with retention?

That's Vegas level cheating lol