Roster Building Thread - Part II: Entry Draft Edition

[Off Sides]

Shesterkin is really their only hope of winning a Cup, I could see them trying to do it while he is still under his current contract, yet to put all of those hopes onto next year seems like a year or two too soon.

I guess it's plausible they think Kakko will hold out, in which case he becomes a "have to trade" or "wait for an offer sheet" or a "he left to go play back home" candidate, and they will not get much value in any of those scenarios.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I appreciate the thought!, I do it get's kind of annoying when people do this, But Lebrun just tweeted, and frank did a segment on JT.

Theres wayyyyy too much smoke. Nobody other than Marek is reporting the Kakko part tho!

- Pierre just made an Article on the Rangers Interest, Not Mentioning Dreger.



Seravalli talked about this for a good 5/6 Minutes.

Here is what Lebrun Said!

He didn't report anything.

All he said was "I wonder about Kakko's future with the Rangers" not "Kakko is available for JT Miller!"

Marek's segment was basically throwing shit at the wall. Listen for yourself, I posted it above.

 

[Machinehead]

f*** JT Miller. He is a leader of a room that was called "soft", "weak" and "country club". Just like his mentality was here and in Tampa. Let him go rack up meaningless points in the regular season for shit teams. He only ever produced once in the playoffs and he went enough times for that to be unacceptable. That includes AHL and OHL.

Based on everything Drury has done since he became GM, I have serious doubts that he is interested in Miller. He is 100% opposite every player he has brought in since he took over. Drury will play this offseason close to the vest to see if our guys take the next step I'd imagine.

He produced in the playoffs once in Vancouver after his breakout.

I'm against bringing him in and call it a gut feeling more than anything else, but that doesn't seem like a fair analysis.

 

[Canucks LB]

He didn't report anything.

All he said was "I wonder about Kakko's future with the Rangers" not "Kakko is available for JT Miller!"

Marek's segment was basically throwing shit at the wall. Listen for yourself, I posted it above.

Good point, thanks for this buddy

 

[Machinehead]

I appreciate the thought!, I do it gets kind of annoying when people do this.
That being said, Frank and Lebrun did a segment on this just recently.

Theres wayyyyy too much smoke. Nobody other than Marek is reporting the Kakko part tho!



- Pierre just made an Article on the Rangers Interest, Not Mentioning Dreger.



Seravalli talked about this for a good 5/6 Minutes.

Here is what Lebrun Said!


Apparently the Canucks are looking for a team to step up

"There's way too much smoke" is often a good way to look at things, but it's hard to apply that to the Rangers.

We're the biggest team in the biggest market generating the most clicks. Over the course of a summer, every player in the world is going to the Rangers.

It's very hard to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Kovalchuk and Giordano are good examples of players imminently going to the Rangers who never arrived. Rick Nash ended up here but it was on like the sixth time we were acquiring him.

This is such a weird tweet, what does it have to do with the draft hahaha

Man, covid really took it out of him on the 2020 shot.

 

[Tob]

He didn't report anything.

All he said was "I wonder about Kakko's future with the Rangers" not "Kakko is available for JT Miller!"

Marek's segment was basically throwing shit at the wall. Listen for yourself, I posted it above.

Thanks guy. After the G6 scratch, this is too easy for these hacks to speculate.

 

[haohmaru]

I don't see it. Unless this team is returning to the Dark Ages® philosophy it doesn't make any sense. OMG! We made the semis! Have to make a move that ONLY impacts next season.

JT Miller. Malkin. Hell, even Strome and Copp do NOT work with 2023-24 cap. Trading Kakko, or whatever the ludicrousness is that it will take for a season of Miller, makes no sense other than delusionally thinking that next year is OUR year if we have Miller.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Thanks guy. After the G6 scratch, this is too easy for these hacks to speculate.

Its not even his fault. I just know how idiots on twitter operate and listening is a skill that is lost on 95% of the people who tweet.

Doesn't mean that Kakko isn't available of course, but the "reports" of Kakko being dangled by Marek are false - he said nothing of the sort.

 

[duhmetreE]

I'm not giving that up for JTM. I'll give it up for Larkin though.

I still think all of this is Drury's negotiating tactics.

Copp is #1 on the list but he needs to come in at a reasonable price.

 

[McRanger92]

I have no doubt the Rangers have interest in Miller, but the return is going to be much more along the lines of Lundkvist, a protected 1st in 23 & a prospect like Cuylle or Berard. If Kakko was being offered up the trade would already be done.

Although trading Kakko for Miller and Georgiev for Pujujaarvi would be a "crazy like a fox" series of moves for Drury

 

[Profet]

Gomez, Drury, Redden, Richards, Shattenkirk.

Even now, our best player is a UFA signing. We went out and got Trouba when we didn't need to because we could.

The idea that the cap forced us to stop buying core pieces isn't founded. Nor should we stop. Signing free agents is part of the game.

Not to mention we don't play Laf and Kakko anyway. Since we can't sign Eric Lindros anymore, we're putting Goodrow and Blackwell ahead of them. Nothing about our ideology ever changed.

Also the whole "retirement home" thing is a meme. Like, no, the Rangers would not have a bunch of 39 and 40 year olds. They never did. The only guy they acquired during the Dark Ages over the age of 32 was Messier for his second stint. Lindros and Panarin came to the Rangers at the same age.

To be fair... i think Holik was only a few months away from being 32 when he signed. But I get your point.

Also Skrudland had to be up there.

 

[CLW]

Evert year NHL social media carnival barkers make a big deal out of all the big firework moves we'll see at the draft and every year there's *crickets*

 

[SRHRangers]

I'll throw up if Kakko is dealt and becomes Hossa on the RW of Pettersson.

You know that will happen.

 

[NYR Viper]

I'm not giving that up for JTM. I'll give it up for Larkin though.

I still think all of this is Drury's negotiating tactics.

Copp is #1 on the list but he needs to come in at a reasonable price.

I get a very similar sense.

It would be hilarious that there have been absolutely zero leaks from this new front office all season and then the National guys have all of these scoops. Something doesn't add up...

 

[Off Sides]

To be fair... i think Holik was only a few months away from being 32 when he signed. But I get your point.

Also Skrudland had to be up there.

Depends on what years one uses to define the dark ages, but Shanahan, Naslund, Rucchin are three of the top I think were older than 32 when the Rangers first acquired them.

 

[Alluckks]

The generic names pushing the Vancouver front office driven media sham wasn't enough, we got their own plugs in here now too lmao

I get a very similar sense.

It would be hilarious that there have been absolutely zero leaks from this new front office all season and then the National guys have all of these scoops. Something doesn't add up...

You mean it isn't just a coincidence that these are the same talking heads that were trying to carry Vancouver's water when they tried to do this song and dance just a few months ago?

Gee golly

 

[ElLeetch]

It's about as bad as it gets.

Gortons biggest failure. Absolutely hosed by Yzerman

yep. a Franchise-level D traded for peanuts, and all because while we thought he was done for, we were just abusing him and wearing him out without giving him any help.

 

[Fitzy]

I will just state that I prefer:

Copp @ $5.25m per season for 6 years
Chytil
Lundkvist
1st

Over

Miller for 1 season

Call me crazy

I even prefer doing nothing at all and having Chytil and Goodrow as 2 and 3 C over tossing huge assets for one run.

We won’t have to take that option, we should get depth nonetheless, but Miller would be a mistake. If the team is spanking at the deadline we can get a high level rental then for less assets. I don’t think we will be struggling to make the playoffs.

 

[Thirty One]

Evert year NHL social media carnival barkers make a big deal out of all the big firework moves we'll see at the draft and every year there's *crickets*

Last year the following players were traded on the two draft days:
Seth Jones
Oliver Ekman-Larsson
Conor Garland
Pavel Buchnevich
Rasmus Ristolainen
Sam Reinhart
Jakub Voracek
Cam Atkinson

 

[ElLeetch]

To be fair... i think Holik was only a few months away from being 32 when he signed. But I get your point.

Also Skrudland had to be up there.

Keep in mind, this was the NHL where UFA age was 31, and if you signed someone at that age, you still believed those players had many more years left in the tank.

 

[Kocur26]

There’s mutual interest - Malkin.

 

[HonestGabe]

There’s mutual interest - Malkin.

?

 

[NYR Viper]

There’s mutual interest - Malkin.

Between who?

 

[Thirty One]

Keep in mind, this was the NHL where UFA age was 31, and if you signed someone at that age, you still believed those players had many more years left in the tank.

I'm sure the Rangers knew they didn't have much in the tank, but UFA was the only place they got players from so what are you going to do?

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Gomez, Drury, Redden, Richards, Shattenkirk.

Even now, our best player is a UFA signing. We went out and got Trouba when we didn't need to because we could.

The idea that the cap forced us to stop buying core pieces isn't founded. Nor should we stop. Signing free agents is part of the game.

Not to mention we don't play Laf and Kakko anyway. Since we can't sign Eric Lindros anymore, we're putting Goodrow and Blackwell ahead of them. Nothing about our ideology ever changed.

Also the whole "retirement home" thing is a meme. Like, no, the Rangers would not have a bunch of 39 and 40 year olds. They never did. The only guy they acquired during the Dark Ages over the age of 32 was Messier for his second stint. Lindros and Panarin came to the Rangers at the same age.

I'd prefer a league of 25 decent teams over a league of 6 star teams. I don't wanna sit down on a Saturday night and watch us beat a team 7-1 because we have more money. The cap needs some fixing but it's made the league a lot more even. The caps biggest issue is that GM's have no restraint. Trouba as you mentioned was a trade and sign that stands out as a overpay, why did they do that? Has nothing to do.with the cap, they did it because thats what the Rangers do, the only difference now is that they can't just run out and get 6, 8 million dollar defensemen. If you wanna target something thats ruining hockey its the NTC, they shouldn't exist, you get your money and your term and if the team becomes unhappy with your play they should be able to move you.