Shesterkybomb
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Roster Building Thread - Part II: Entry Draft Edition
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EdJovanovski
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Is this all because I challenged Kakko to a boxing match? Now we’re trading Kakko for Bozo???
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Thirty One
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It would be a cap hit we wouldn't afford, a commitment that's far too long, and a much worse player. Those are the three main reasons, I think.
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Yes, he sensed you wanted to fight him so he requested a trade to make it more convenient for you. Hahaha.
No offense to Kakko but I would be more worried about the 7 years 10 million per that Miller wants. We CAN NOT sign anymore players even close to the age of 30 to long term deals. We have hit our limit with those deals. Its a huge mistake. Same goes for Kadri!
Not sure how many years Giroux wants but he is gonna be 35 soon yikes.
Shesterkybomb
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I keep hearing Frank Costanza yelling "What the hell did you trade Kakko for, he's big, young and is a controlled asset"
Drury "All my people kept saying , JT Miller, Jt Miller"
YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU'RE DOING OVER THERE!!!
Drury "All my people kept saying , JT Miller, Jt Miller"
YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU'RE DOING OVER THERE!!!
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Just like keeping Miller for more than a year would be a cap hit we wouldn't afford, and a commitment that's far too long, so NYR would be giving Kakko away for one year of Miller and not, in all likelihood, a Cup winning year.
EdJovanovski
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We could just sign Malkin short term without giving up assets, but instead we’re trading Kakko (and possibly more) for one year or Bozo?
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Shesterkybomb
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Yes, but my point is that if you are gonna spend that money one someone you may as well just sign them and not trade pieces away and make the situation worse. Giroux won't be a long term deal and my bet would be he could be had for a lot less than the other two. You're likely looking at 3 years or less.
Thirty One
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Yeah, don't disagree. The Rangers are all-in. I don't know if we need Dolan to throw another tantrum to remind everyone, or...
I don't think this is a move that would be Dolan driven at all. I'm sure thats where all the fingers would point, but this is a team that came close to making it to the finals. No one should be surprised if/when they make a pretty big addition.
I also have my doubts about the validity of said rumors.
DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
As much as some might not want this to be the case, for whatever those reasons are (long term thinking, building a consistent contender) you are right and I guess it's to be expected after the team makes a run to the conference finals. The problem isn't so much going all in but the personnrl they hitched their wagon to.
LiveLongandProspal
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LOL. Would this cement the McDonagh/Miller trade as a top-5 worst trade in NYR history?
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It's about as bad as it gets.
Gortons biggest failure. Absolutely hosed by Yzerman
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If I absolutely had to trade Kakko to upgrade the center position I’m choosing PLD over Miller
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LeBrun rumblings: J.T. Miller trade watch and the goalie carousel
MONTREAL — I was chatting with a GM on Wednesday morning when he made this general observation as the first round of the NHL Draft approached. “There are so many big names being floated out there right now,’’ the GM said. Well, we certainly love hearing that. And it’s not to say all...
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"Teams continue to call Vancouver on J.T. Miller, for example. The Rangers are once again among those suitors, according to sources. No surprise there, especially if the Rangers aren’t able to re-sign Andrew Copp. But there’s lots of interest in Miller. The Canucks could wait until next year’s trade deadline to move him but I suspect it could get done this week if a team steps up with the package the Canucks are asking for."
Canada trying to will this trade into existence. Burn that whole country down.
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JT Miller - who has played an awful lot of LW for the Canucks and not as much Center as we think, on a 1 year rental for a package of Kakko+(or other names such as Schneider and Chytil, or even worse, some combo of these players), would be downright insane. It would not make sense for the Rangers. I also cannot remember the last time a player that was clearly a 1 season rental got that big of a return. Seems highly doubtful to me.
Tob
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Vancouver management using the media to jack up the price for Miller before the draft. If that's the case, it's either the Rangers or Devils.
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Drury just hated the McDonagh/Miller trade so much that so he committed to bringing both of them back. McDonagh went to Nashville so now Drury has to be all in on Miller. Obviously.
In seriousness though, if Miller had two seasons left on his deal I think it'd be worth it but with only 1 year left and him being almost impossible to re-sign, I don't see the cost being worth it.
Still, Miller IS a much better player now than he was when he left and he would be a massive upgrade to this team. People trying to rationalize not wanting to trade for him bc of the cost but saying he also isn't very good is wrong, he is very good. It's just that the reported cost isn't worth it when you factor in his contract status and our cap situation.
In seriousness though, if Miller had two seasons left on his deal I think it'd be worth it but with only 1 year left and him being almost impossible to re-sign, I don't see the cost being worth it.
Still, Miller IS a much better player now than he was when he left and he would be a massive upgrade to this team. People trying to rationalize not wanting to trade for him bc of the cost but saying he also isn't very good is wrong, he is very good. It's just that the reported cost isn't worth it when you factor in his contract status and our cap situation.
EdJovanovski
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I support this, just warn @Tob & I first so we can escape via canoe. We’ll sail through the arctic and arrive on the shores of the great state of New Jersey.LeBrun rumblings: J.T. Miller trade watch and the goalie carousel
MONTREAL — I was chatting with a GM on Wednesday morning when he made this general observation as the first round of the NHL Draft approached. “There are so many big names being floated out there right now,’’ the GM said. Well, we certainly love hearing that. And it’s not to say all...
"Teams continue to call Vancouver on J.T. Miller, for example. The Rangers are once again among those suitors, according to sources. No surprise there, especially if the Rangers aren’t able to re-sign Andrew Copp. But there’s lots of interest in Miller. The Canucks could wait until next year’s trade deadline to move him but I suspect it could get done this week if a team steps up with the package the Canucks are asking for."
Canada trying to will this trade into existence. Burn that whole country down.
Tob
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LeBrun rumblings: J.T. Miller trade watch and the goalie carousel
MONTREAL — I was chatting with a GM on Wednesday morning when he made this general observation as the first round of the NHL Draft approached. “There are so many big names being floated out there right now,’’ the GM said. Well, we certainly love hearing that. And it’s not to say all...
"Teams continue to call Vancouver on J.T. Miller, for example. The Rangers are once again among those suitors, according to sources. No surprise there, especially if the Rangers aren’t able to re-sign Andrew Copp. But there’s lots of interest in Miller. The Canucks could wait until next year’s trade deadline to move him but I suspect it could get done this week if a team steps up with the package the Canucks are asking for."
Canada trying to will this trade into existence. Burn that whole country down.
The media knows Drury is meticulous and makes offers he believes are fair and sticks with them but they're happy to fan the fire anyway to get the clicks from a big market team.
Circus86
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Agreed.
Did Forsberg play center or wing for the preds? Rumours are he will test free agency.
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