Speculation: Roster Building Thread Part II: Anything Goes

[Inferno]

any lineup that has Marc Staal in it worries me.

 

[bigdog16]

In Sean Avery's Players Tribune Article he talks about how well the Rangers provide for their guys, specifically with catered meals, etc. on road trips, to the point where they never have to touch their travel per diem. He seemed to suggest that not all teams do quite as much.

If you listen to the Spittin' Chiclets podcast they interview a lot of NHL guys and ask them how unreal the lifestyle is. Almost all of them actually mention "stepping on a private plane and being able to have any kind of food you ask for"

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

any lineup that has Marc Staal in it worries me.

I don't mind him in a 3LD capacity. Any higher in the rotation I think is asking too much from him at this point.

 

[LannyMcdonald]

Our center depth may be weak but it's not the end of the world.
The defence has improved a lot, we still have a great group of wingers and we have an elite goalie. Nashville made the SCF with Fisher as their #1c.
LOL at the people saying we won't make the playoffs.

But they didn't win!

 

[Dr. Ogrodnick]

Our center depth may be weak but it's not the end of the world.
The defence has improved a lot, we still have a great group of wingers and we have an elite goalie. Nashville made the SCF with Fisher as their #1c.
LOL at the people saying we won't make the playoffs.

Fisher wasn't Nashville's #1 C even after Johansson went down. He was their 4th line center and moved up to 3rd behind Scissons and Jarnkronk. What you are saying is not remotely close to accurate.

 

[FJB]

I don't mind him in a 3LD capacity. Any higher in the rotation I think is asking too much from him at this point.

I agree 100%. He'd be fine in that capacity, but that cap hit just sucks now.. gotta tough it out with that contract. Maybe no more Girardi lights a fire under him, or he's never the same since that injury?

 

[nyrage]

I don't want to see Staal play at all. Make him your 7th defenseman. If he doesn't like it, then have him waive his NTC. Just get him off the ice and hopefully off the team.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

If you listen to the Spittin' Chiclets podcast they interview a lot of NHL guys and ask them how unreal the lifestyle is. Almost all of them actually mention "stepping on a private plane and being able to have any kind of food you ask for"

Sure and that should tell you how great the Rangers are to their players that in a world where they're all being treated like kings, the Rangers are always mentioned as being the best.

 

[Nickmo82]

I don't want to see Staal play at all. Make him your 7th defenseman. If he doesn't like it, then have him waive his NTC. Just get him off the ice and hopefully off the team.

Agreed 100%. His last day in a Rangers jersey will be a good day for this team.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

They withheld the taxes like you mentioned.

Thanks man

From what I understand, the taxes are calculated per game. Salary / 82 = salary per game. Then calculate the tax based on the location where each game is played.

 

[BBKers]

Don't think any moves are being made until ZBad signs (or they at least know what the contract is going to be.

Zinbads arbitration hearing is set on July 25. Hopefully a deal is worked out before that. Tyler Johnson was due July 20th but he set the benchmark already? Would be a great number if indeed possible

 

[bsbarmchairgm]

Jensen to KHL

Perhaps old news, but Jensen has signed 1+1 contract with Jokerit of KHL: http://www.jokerit.com/jokerit-ja-nicklas-jensen-sopimukseen

 

[Alluckks]

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ESPN.com: Now you're playing for the Rangers on a big stage. What has that been like?

Holden: You go from Columbus and Colorado, which aren't big organizations, to one of the top, if not the top organization in the NHL in everything they do -- whether it's the product on the ice and how good their teams are to how they treat their players and everybody in between. I didn't really have any expectations of what it was going to be like. But when I found out I was going to the Rangers, knowing the history, that they're an Original Six [franchise], that this is the 90th anniversary and all of the players who have come through the Rangers organization, it's just such a rich history. So, to get traded here was exciting and getting to play -- and throwing on such an historic and cool jersey -- at Madison Square Garden every home game? It's exciting every day to pull that on. My friends and family are excited, too.

- http://cdn.espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/19102094/want-make-some-noise-stanley-cup-playoffs

Mike Gartner, Sean Avery, Kevin Weekes, and many players have cited that they were treated better in New York, and received more compensation than anywhere else they played.


Sean Avery talked extensively about it here:

When I was in the NHL, we received $96 a day in per diem money during training camp (that’s 30 days, or $2,880) and for each day we were away for road games.

When I was with the New York Rangers — who are the cream of the crop in looking after their guys — here’s how it went. If we had a road game, we were chauffeured to the airport in a town car, or, if we were hitting the road after a home game, we were driven to the airport on a luxurious bus with plush leather seats and snacks and drinks (same as in the town car). The team paid.

At the airport, we boarded a chartered jet. No ticket needed. The flight attendants knew us, so they’d have my ice tea with two sugars waiting when I settled into a roomy leather seat. If I wanted champagne, I got champagne. I also got fed three fine meals with multiple courses if the trip was long enough. They also provided various snacks and sandwiches we could throw in our bags for later. All on the house.

Once we arrived in the road trip city, we were driven to our five-star hotel. In the morning, we’d have a sumptuous breakfast of pancakes, waffles, omelettes, Eggs Benedict, bacon and sausage, cereals and fruit, whatever we liked. Again, all paid for.

After the morning skate, we’d return to the hotel for lunch — a massive buffet with prime rib, salmon and pastas, an awesome salad bar, and a superb a la carte menu to order from as well. Then we’d nap. After the game, the training staff ordered us pizza and pasta as we got ready to fly to the next city. And then we ate and drank again on the plane, though some killjoy coaches would ban booze if the team lost. That’s motivation for quite a few guys!

So what about that $96 per diem? Never had to touch it.

- https://www.theplayerstribune.com/the-new-avery-rule/


So, to answer your question concisely: Yes.

The Rangers organization treats their players a lot, lot, lot better than most organizations. It is ignorant to think that every organization in the NHL is close to that standard - let alone Tampa freakin' Bay, one of the queen recipients of handouts. To think that what the players say about their past organizations is sugar-coated is nonsense. This isn't politics. Drinking the koolaid? Yeah, okay. Yes, there are plenty of amenities that some top organizations have that others don't, and some lower organizations missing things entirely.

How many people do you know that play or have played in the NHL? Been around the league? Alright.

 

[Alluckks]

If you listen to the Spittin' Chiclets podcast they interview a lot of NHL guys and ask them how unreal the lifestyle is. Almost all of them actually mention "stepping on a private plane and being able to have any kind of food you ask for"

It isn't the same from organization to organization.

 

[BBKers]

Perhaps old news, but Jensen has signed 1+1 contract with Jokerit of KHL: http://www.jokerit.com/jokerit-ja-nicklas-jensen-sopimukseen

So we Lost proven AHLers Jensen (bad trade it turned out to be), Hrivik and Beck and so far replaced them with Carey and Schneider. Pirri gone too. On D we lost Summers, Clendening and Paliotta replacing them with mostly younger guys. Expect to see a few bargain-bin depth organsational signings in the Dog Days of August when all RFAs are signed and remaining players will be easier to lock up. Would Love to see a few long shot out of the blue signings.

 

[BBKers]

- http://cdn.espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/19102094/want-make-some-noise-stanley-cup-playoffs

Mike Gartner, Sean Avery, Kevin Weekes, and many players have cited that they were treated better in New York, and received more compensation than anywhere else they played.


Sean Avery talked extensively about it here:





- https://www.theplayerstribune.com/the-new-avery-rule/


So, to answer your question concisely: Yes.

The Rangers organization treats their players a lot, lot, lot better than most organizations. It is ignorant to think that every organization in the NHL is close to that standard - let alone Tampa freakin' Bay, one of the queen recipients of handouts. To think that what the players say about their past organizations is sugar-coated is nonsense. This isn't politics. Drinking the koolaid? Yeah, okay. Yes, there are plenty of amenities that some top organizations have that others don't, and some lower organizations missing things entirely.

How many people do you know that play or have played in the NHL? Been around the league? Alright.

Not going to answer that. Because it can come across the wrong way. But I can tell you that you are definitely on the money regarding the Rangers organisation. They are very generous and high Class, known throughout the league for this. We used to cater to them in the early 90s with a small firm selling seafood products. Great fun. They were very good to deal with as well in every which way.

 

[bigdog16]

It isn't the same from organization to organization.

Its remotely similar. Every team has a private plane, every team has the meals, the training staff, all that good stuff. Its the allure of NYC that makes it sound great. Just remember some Rangers take the Subway to games.

 

[RangerBoy]

The Rangers could always give Andersson a 9 game look. If he plays a minimum 10 NHL games,the year counts. They could send him back to Sweden and not lose the year off the ELC. 19 year old slide. Andersson is better off playing in Sweden. The Rangers shouldn't rush him because they have a hole in the middle. Have a good year playing for HV71 or Frolunda and in the WJC in Buffalo. 18-19 Rangers.

 

[Mac n Gs]

The Rangers could always give Andersson a 9 game look. If he plays a minimum 10 NHL games,the year counts. They could send him back to Sweden and not lose the year off the ELC. 19 year old slide. Andersson is better off playing in Sweden. The Rangers shouldn't rush him because they have a hole in the middle. Have a good year playing for HV71 and in the WJC in Buffalo. 18-19 Rangers.

Exactly. Give him a cup of coffee if he earns it, other wise let him get useful top-6 minutes in the SHL. Just a heads up, he's with Frolunda this year, not HV71. Won't hurt either playing with Dahlin and co

 

[Avery16]

Jensen joins Matt Gilroy, Kari Ramo, and possibly a brother? In Jasper Jensen with Jokerit

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Jensen joins Matt Gilroy, Kari Ramo, and possibly a brother? In Jasper Jensen with Jokerit

He is not related to Jesper

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

1. Draft a player at 7 with questionable offensive upside.
2. Rush him to the NHL where the only way he will stay in the lineup as 3c is minimizing mistakes.
3, Either he will be scratched by AV for 40 games or he won't have the freedom to push the pace offensively in a critical developmental season.

Yea that's a horrendous plan.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

1. Draft a player at 7 with questionable offensive upside.
2. Rush him to the NHL where the only way he will stay in the lineup as 3c is minimizing mistakes.
3, Either he will be scratched by AV for 40 games or he won't have the freedom to push the pace offensively in a critical developmental season.

Yea that's a horrendous plan.

I would absolutely give him 9 games to see what he can do. There's no harm in that. Won't cost a year off his ELC. And the "questionable offensive upside" I really don't understand

 

[NYR Viper]

I would absolutely give him 9 games to see what he can do. There's no harm in that. Won't cost a year off his ELC. And the "questionable offensive upside" I really don't understand

He may come in with lots of energy for 9 games and then trail off after that. I'd rather not play the yo-yo game with him

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

He may come in with lots of energy for 9 games and then trail off after that. I'd rather not play the yo-yo game with him

There's no harm in having him play 9 games. It's good for his development. Let him get some games in with the team and then either have him finish the season in Hartford, or send him to Frolunda to compete in the SHL and CHL