Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Off-season Part I
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They could, but they signed Goodrow for a reason. Leadership. They aren’t going to move hIm out now.
I, on the other hand, like you.
NickyFotiu
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I understand but if you can better the 2nd line don't you do that before worrying about the 4th line? I don't think leadership is a big issue. We need more speed, physicality, and faceoff wins imo. Leadership seems good.
PuckLuck3043
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What's an overpayment though? That's a matter of opinion. All season long people complained about the 4th line. It would be nice to have a good 4th line since Gallant usually plays them a lot.
JimmyG89
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Kravtsov is going to be on the team unless he completely flames out in camp. I do not see that happening, so he'll be on the 3rd line if I'd have to guess.
The team also cannot fit under the cap. Just not possible, unless you're moving Nemeth and Lindgren with no cap coming back.
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If Copp and Motte came in cheaper than expected somehow, and Reaves/Nemeth/Chytil contracts also moved out, I think it is possible to fit
I'm also sick of Kravstov, he either ditches again or gets traded in my fantasy world
I post some new lineup variation every other day, don't look too much into it
JimmyG89
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Crazy enough, but this is the rumor about the situation. It was either trade to Nashville or waived and claimed by Columbus.
Shesterkybomb
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Sign Giroux short term, trade for a young center, find a Nemeth/Braun replacement and a backup goalie, sign Motte if you can....lets go.
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You sure those “hits” aren’t from Sutter forcing Gaudreau to weakly follow up on checks? What is a Johnny Gaudreau hit going to do to anyone? Tickle them?
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Vancouver delusion still strong as ever. Their beat reporter mentioned that their front office thinks Miller's value has increased since last trade deadline. Seems neither the fans, nor the front office, nor the reporters have come to the realization that Miller is officially a 1 season rental now.
Then you have more credible reporters saying that Miller should get more than Fiala. Maybe? But, break down what that means. A late 1st and a good prospect? Lundqvist ~ Faber? They are still talking about Schneider +++ lol
Seravelli still carrying the water for Vancouver because their front office wants to feed stuff to him. Frank writing that the Islanders are involved, no real names. Frank writing that the Devils are involved, then says he can't see why #2 overall or Bratt couldn't be in play. Holy lol that terribly smelling "leak" sure ain't coming out of New Jersey (despite all the sewage dumps there).
Rangers paid up for Copp and the deep playoff run was worth the squeeze, but we ended up playing him much more on wing than at center. He worked better there for us, but also chipped in on some faceoffs. Miller plays better at winger, this is well known. Rangers aren't going to re-hash a more expensive Copp trade to put another guy a wing.
Then you have more credible reporters saying that Miller should get more than Fiala. Maybe? But, break down what that means. A late 1st and a good prospect? Lundqvist ~ Faber? They are still talking about Schneider +++ lol
Seravelli still carrying the water for Vancouver because their front office wants to feed stuff to him. Frank writing that the Islanders are involved, no real names. Frank writing that the Devils are involved, then says he can't see why #2 overall or Bratt couldn't be in play. Holy lol that terribly smelling "leak" sure ain't coming out of New Jersey (despite all the sewage dumps there).
Rangers paid up for Copp and the deep playoff run was worth the squeeze, but we ended up playing him much more on wing than at center. He worked better there for us, but also chipped in on some faceoffs. Miller plays better at winger, this is well known. Rangers aren't going to re-hash a more expensive Copp trade to put another guy a wing.
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Also just saying, Goodrow and Kakko both paced for 34 points this season.
Goodrow got more defensive starts, can play C, killed penalties, blocked shots, actually played with aggression and a bit of physicality, got virtually no top 6 time or PP time, and brought leadership+Stanley Cup winning experience to a young team that sorely needed it
Kakko played half his games in the top 6 on a line with Mika Zibanejad or Artemi Panarin, got some PP time, and didn’t do anything else. Didn’t improve in any regard, not even his English improved
Goodrow got more defensive starts, can play C, killed penalties, blocked shots, actually played with aggression and a bit of physicality, got virtually no top 6 time or PP time, and brought leadership+Stanley Cup winning experience to a young team that sorely needed it
Kakko played half his games in the top 6 on a line with Mika Zibanejad or Artemi Panarin, got some PP time, and didn’t do anything else. Didn’t improve in any regard, not even his English improved
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I agree and I don’t really think it’s impossible to move Trouba or Kreider if we wanted to.
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Chalfdiggity3
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We see this more and more in other sports now. You can have all this trade protection and blah blah, the Gi will pay you but dont think for a second that if a deal comes along the gm wont move you. Its what Pat Riley does in Miami.
You pay youre players and youre players understand that when/if the time comes to be traded they should not be upset, its a business.
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Alex Edler had a solid reclamation year in LA. Got his giveaways down, was playing a slightly diminished role than what he had previously. Possession numbers were better too.
We've been linked to him in the past, but wonder how much of that had to do with AV being the coach at the time.
Reports that the Rangers a veteran for the blue line, and someone with good playoff experience. Rangers could ask Motte for his thoughts on how someone like Edler would fit in.
Wonder if he'd come on a cheap 1 year deal, would fit well on the 3rd pair next to Schneider.
We've been linked to him in the past, but wonder how much of that had to do with AV being the coach at the time.
Reports that the Rangers a veteran for the blue line, and someone with good playoff experience. Rangers could ask Motte for his thoughts on how someone like Edler would fit in.
Wonder if he'd come on a cheap 1 year deal, would fit well on the 3rd pair next to Schneider.
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I don't know for sure but I would have to imagine if the scenario occurred as described the NHLPA would be able to file a grievance with the league and fight that. Obviously, waiving him is fine as he doesn't have a NMC but it doesn't seem right to me that they're able to use it as a threat.
Thirty One
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They're within their rights to waive him, but not within their rights to explain to him what his alternative is?
JimmyG89
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It does seem strange. I wonder if there are somethings that got lost in translation. It is possible they said Columbus was interested, worked on a deal, and he said no. So in order to bypass that, they'd just waive him and then make their deal with Columbus getting "future considerations" after he gets claimed.
So he decided on the best option. I think he lasts 2 years in Nashville and then gets moved when they decide to sell off. He'll get the Duncan Keith treatment. Probably will have fallen off, moved to a contender for 2 season before retiring.
SA16
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I think there’s a difference between explaining it’s an option than threatening to cut him if he doesn’t do what they want.
Shesterkybomb
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What if it wasnt a threat but a frachise helping a player avoid a spot he doesnt wanna go to. "Ryan, we can't afford to keep you on the roster so we're gonna waive you, Columbus has told us they'd claim you, if you wanna go somewhere else we can try and work out a trade"
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