Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Off-season Part I

[Fitzy]

I don’t think Chytil’s problem has ever been skill- it’s been his IQ and vision.

One of many reasons why I think he’d be an interesting change of pace as Panarin’s pivot.

 

[Kocur26]

You must be about 15

No I saw his entire career - like glen Anderson he was shot …

I don’t think Chytil’s problem has ever been skill- it’s been his IQ and vision.

One of many reasons why I think he’d be an interesting change of pace as Panarin’s pivot.

He’s not overly skilled by any means .

Vincent Trocheck is a guy that the Rangers have been eyeing for years. If the deal was reasonable, he’d 100% be my target. His pace, relentlessness, face off ability, guts, through the middle, to the net play is exactly what we need. Him and Panarin would cook.

I’ll take him no question .

 

[NickyFotiu]

I don’t think Chytil’s problem has ever been skill- it’s been his IQ and vision.

One of many reasons why I think he’d be an interesting change of pace as Panarin’s pivot.

Sometimes its just mindset. I know guys that could barely skate that always had it in their mind that if they get the chance they will score while other guys that could really skate would shoot at the post or the chest. One reason I'm more optomistic about Laf is he had that big scorer mentality before the NHL.

 

[bbny]

I'd take him over Monahan but prefer Dubois or I know unless a miracle happens with him being available or the Rangers overpay Larkin from the Red Wings



If Bertuzzi get bought out how about Bertuzzi to Rangers? Provides grit skill power forward in top 9. Is not soft and goes to the net


Rangers trade Kakko, Lundkvist, Chytil, Georgiev and 1st in 2023 and 1st 2024 for signed Larkin? Would this be fair or not close enough?

Oof.

 

[bleedblue94]

I don't think we are capable of landing a 'top' Center. These are the cards we have. Mika is there. Trouba and Kreids have 2 more seasons of NMC. I don't think trading for a Center is the move this offseason ( We traded for him at the TDL ). Our need+ Potential Cost+ Current Cap doesn't make it viable

IMO we desperately need solid 2 way centers. I've been saying that all season. No kid will fill that void. Not Chytil. Not PLD. Not JTM. Sign Copp and Stastny. It's boring but they fill and strengthen a weakness. It seems like everyone is trying to build a uber Fantasy Hockey team. I see roles that need to be filled. Copp+Stastny fill those roles. Kadri would be the top choice but $8-10M is not happening.

We need puck movers. It's clear as day. Having a big and mobile defensemen is a massive + in the Playoffs. Chychrun would be like adding another type of KAM. Why wouldn't we want this? If we can land him with our surplus of assets, for a cap hit less than Nemeth.... why wouldn't we?

We could not get out of our zone. Adding a big and mobile puck mover + 2way Centers, help. IMO it's good enough to win.

In 2 years, we would still have Copp, more cap flexibility and assets to land another Center if needed.

I really believe chychrun wouldn't fit here with what we have. Our top 4 is set whether people here like it or not. Bottom pair should be Schneider and Jones. Lindgren isnt being traded and like it or not I highly doubt he is supplanted from his spot w fox for a bunch of reasons including fox's preference.

I think this team needs the type of centers you brought up more than chychrun. Jones will also help.

I also don't love investing a ton into chychrun w his injury trends, and the coyotes want a ton.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Highly unlikely situation, what if team X was interested in Chytil Georgiev and Lundkvist. What if they were packaged together? remember Corey Schneider was dealt for 9th overall and was not as good as Georgiev. Georgiev is a better goalie in my opinion. Could Chytil Lundkvist and Georgiev net top 5 overall pick If one those teams were interested in all 3


say Chytil Georgiev Lundkvist to. Arizona for 3th overall.

 

[Vitto79]

Highly unlikely situation, what if team X was interested in Chytil Georgiev and Lundkvist. What if they were packaged together? remember Corey Schneider was dealt for 9th overall and was not as good as Georgiev. Georgiev is a better goalie in my opinion. Could Chytil Lundkvist and Georgiev net top 5 overall pick If one those teams were interested in all 3


say Chytil Georgiev Lundkvist to. Arizona for 3th overall.

We never really see something like that plus I doubt NYR are targeting a top prospect

they need help now

 

[RangerBoy]

I've heard the Rangers are getting Horvat for Buchnevich.

Buchnevich is the better player.

 

[Thirty One]

Buchnevich is the better player.

Still don't think it's going to happen.

 

[bleedblue94]

They’re way more capped out than we are.

Exactly the reason they wouldn't move roy. Like I know hes arb eligible but I think his number stays in a range that they would want to keep him.

Their issue is if they trade Roy they would be looking for another Roy that would be a little cheaper.

 

[mas0764]

I can discuss adding a 4th liner to the mix without writing an essay about what the cap may look like in 2 years. Too many variables and complexities to worry about every single dollar and the cap may actually go up after 23-24 season. I want my team to ice the best team they can within reason even if it means spending a few extra dollars. I trust the professionals to understand the nuances and details of the cap. I mean we aren't talking about signing McDavid here.

In this particular situation there really is no room to overpay a fourth liner. It’s too tight.

 

[RangersFan1994]

We never really see something like that plus I doubt NYR are targeting a top prospect

they need help now

Arent there a few kids that can step in? this would help with cap space. I know unlikely but thinking outside the box never hurt either. They need help now but they need cheap help now. Rangers have issues with the cap. they need to do something about it without giving away prospects for cap help. Something like this can work for both involved.

 

[bleedblue94]

Highly unlikely situation, what if team X was interested in Chytil Georgiev and Lundkvist. What if they were packaged together? remember Corey Schneider was dealt for 9th overall and was not as good as Georgiev. Georgiev is a better goalie in my opinion. Could Chytil Lundkvist and Georgiev net top 5 overall pick If one those teams were interested in all 3


say Chytil Georgiev Lundkvist to. Arizona for 3th overall.

Schneider was absolutely better than georgiev and was only traded bc most thought he was ready to be a starter and van didn't want the controversy with him and loungo.

Also there is no way that package nets you a top 5 pick. None

 

[bbny]

Highly unlikely situation, what if team X was interested in Chytil Georgiev and Lundkvist. What if they were packaged together? remember Corey Schneider was dealt for 9th overall and was not as good as Georgiev. Georgiev is a better goalie in my opinion. Could Chytil Lundkvist and Georgiev net top 5 overall pick If one those teams were interested in all 3


say Chytil Georgiev Lundkvist to. Arizona for 3th overall.

Similar thoughts have crossed my mind here. Convert ready players like Lundkvist, who have no spot here, into draft capital for future ELC talent when we will need it more. I’ve read that Ottawa is likely to shop the 7th OA pick to try and improve their roster. Maybe there’s a fit here.

Chytil only potentially involved in a deal like this if they have one of the UFA 2Cs locked up. I don’t want to deal Chytil, but if they clog up 2C then they kind of have to. I’m also not much of a pre-draft prospect aficionado, so I’ll let others figure out if the talent is good/deep enough at 7OA. Last time we drafted at 7, it was a disaster.

 

[bleedblue94]

In all seriousness I don't get the malkin talk. Word is he didn't want 5mx3 years from Pitt. Are we offering him more than that? Why is he coming here for less?

 

[mas0764]

This is why I don’t stress about our cap situation. Some GM is always willing to help out.

Except there are only like 4-5 players who give you any cap relief by moving them and any time you suggest it some know it all weighs in to tell you why it’s “unrealistic” or can’t happen.

 

[Thirty One]

Schneider was absolutely better than georgiev and was only traded bc most thought he was ready to be a starter and van didn't want the controversy with him and loungo.

Also there is no way that package nets you a top 5 pick. None

He was really was their starter at that point. He played 30 games in a 48 game season.

 

[mas0764]

I'd take him over Monahan but prefer Dubois or I know unless a miracle happens with him being available or the Rangers overpay Larkin from the Red Wings



If Bertuzzi get bought out how about Bertuzzi to Rangers? Provides grit skill power forward in top 9. Is not soft and goes to the net


Rangers trade Kakko, Lundkvist, Chytil, Georgiev and 1st in 2023 and 1st 2024 for signed Larkin? Would this be fair or not close enough?

It would be idiotic.

 

[I Eat Crow]

It doesn't sound like Armstrong is planning to lower his demands. He made it sound like Chychrun isn't moving this summer. Not that I want the Rangers to acquire him but it will be interesting to see this situation is resolved. The Coyotes have been very direct in their desire to move the player. Teams are usually cagey in their response if a player is available. He is signed for three more seasons and there is cost certainty. You're not guessing how much his next contract will cost. Some of these teams don't have many assets to trade and/or the cap space for some of these players available in a trade.

He's playing the Sakic game with Duchene. Meet my price or I'm happy to keep the player. All it takes is one customer. Ottawa paid the price that Sakic set at the end of the day.

 

[RangerBoy]

Arizona isn't trading their pick at #3. I heard or read Arizona wants to trade their two late 1st round picks(#27 and #32) to move up in the first round. Arizona has four 2nd round picks if they need more picks to trade.

 

[FIRE DRURY]

Rangers trade Kakko, Lundkvist, Chytil, Georgiev and 1st in 2023 and 1st 2024 for signed Larkin? Would this be fair or not close enough?

This is some horrendously bad shit right here.

 

[RangerBoy]

He's playing the Sakic game with Duchene. Meet my price or I'm happy to keep the player. All it takes is one customer. Ottawa paid the price that Sakic set at the end of the day.

How did that deal workout for Ottawa? Many teams don't like Chychrun. He had one good offensive season with a high shooting %.

 

[I Eat Crow]

Arizona isn't trading their pick at #3. I heard or read Arizona wants to trade their two late 1st round picks(#27 and #32) to move up in the first round. Arizona has four 2nd round picks if they need more picks to move up.

They're going to need to use those picks to improve their roster. Lots of cap strapped teams with issues that Arizona can help out with. They are going to have a lot of trouble attracting UFA's playing in a college hockey arena.

Logan Cooley is a great piece. If they have a player in the top 15 on their board drop to #27, they'll take that player. #32 and all of the 2nd's are fair game.

 

[RangerBoy]

If you want a good laugh, look at the packages proposed by the Vancouver fans for JT Miller?

 

[Thirty One]

If you want a good laugh, look at the packages proposed by the Vancouver fans for JT Miller?

Have they come down from #2 pick and both Hughes brothers?