Speculation: Roster Building Thread: New Season Edition

[Thirty One]

I'd be slightly more concerned about waiving a decent goalie as Arizona needs one.

They claimed Jonas Johansson today. He has a 350K minor league salary. I don't think Arizona intends to pay anyone on their minor league team 350K.

With Jason Robertson holding out and no sign of a contract in sight I wonder if Dallas would revisit the Kreider for Robertson and a 2nd deal they had on the table a couple of years back.

I think the (totally real) trade was actually Robertson and a 1st.

 

[Off Sides]

They claimed Jonas Johansson today. He has a 350K minor league salary. I don't think Arizona intends to pay anyone on their minor league team 350K

I did not catch up to the league moves since waiver claims, thanks.

Domingue has to go through waivers? I don’t think he gets claimed unless a team needs some backup depth in the AHL level

Yes, yet I don't think the odds of him being picked up are good either.

The biggest thing, the player any team claims is being planned on being on their NHL roster, yet given the goalie market sucks, I would still give him being plucked better odds than someone like Carpenter based on position alone.

 

[egelband]

Better for the player if long term contract can start a year earlier.

Right. I’d think the player would want either one year or a long term deal. The team would want to try to get a two or three year bridge rather than one. Is that the thinking? Quite possible they end up on just one year but I’m just trying to understand both sides thinking.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Reaves should teach Gauthier how to fight. Gauthier should reinvent himself as a tough guy with his size it might save his NHL career.

 

[Crease]

Carpenter feels like the forward version of Tinordi, in that it will take half the season before the coaching staff acknowledges he’s not an NHLer anymore.

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

Vesey is gonna make the team and hes a valuable 4th liner
Kreider-zib-blais
Panarin-trocheck-krav
Laff-chytil-kakko
Goodrow-rydahl-vesey
Reaves

Id prefer rydahl over carp but could see them starting with carp due to waiver exemption of rydahl

 

[RangersFan1994]

Vesey is gonna make the team and hes a valuable 4th liner
Kreider-zib-blais
Panarin-trocheck-krav
Laff-chytil-kakko
Goodrow-rydahl-vesey
Reaves

Id prefer rydahl over carp but could see them starting with carp due to waiver exemption of rydahl

How is Rydahl exempt, he is a pro, he was a pro in the swedish leagues? I think once a pro at a certain amount of pro seasons regardless of overseas or not, you go through waivers

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Today’s selection is dealers choice.
This many days until opening night:

 

[egelband]

Think I might prefer Gauthier to Blais with Kreider and Mika.
Kreider-Zibanejad-Gauthier
Panarin-Trocheck-Kravtsov
Lafreniere-Chytil-Kakko
Vesey-Goodrow-Blais
Reaves
Rydahl, Hunt, Carpenter to HFD

 

[Off Sides]

Right. I’d think the player would want either one year or a long term deal. The team would want to try to get a two or three year bridge rather than one. Is that the thinking? Quite possible they end up on just one year but I’m just trying to understand both sides thinking.

I think it's too early to get good read on that.

Rangers have several players who could breakout, or not.

The cap, we don't know if they (NHL and PA) are going to stagger a projected muti year increase in next year, or leave it at the 1M increase, and have a bigger jump after they fully pay off their half of lost revenue. Depending on how that goes, it changes the dynamic.

 

[Off Sides]

How is Rydahl exempt, he is a pro, he was a pro in the swedish leagues? I think once a pro at a certain amount of pro seasons regardless of overseas or not, you go through waivers

I think, as a rookie, never has played/signed in the NHL prior, even though he is older, he must sign an entry level contract, and all entry level contracts are waiver exempt.

 

[egelband]

I think, as a rookie, never has played/signed in the NHL prior, even though he is older, he must sign an entry level contract, and all entry level contracts are waiver exempt.

We need to send up the @Amazing Kreiderman signal.

 

[Off Sides]

We need to send up the @Amazing Kreiderman signal.

I'm pretty sure, there is a little more to it in terms of he can only sign a 1 year entry level at his age, yet for this year, unless something changed in the last MOU, I'm pretty sure those were/are the reasons he is not waiver eligible.

 

[bobbop]

Legit question: Would Carpenter get claimed if waived? it's 50/50 I think.

Carpenter — Slim to no chance he gets claimed

Domingue — probably not, two year contract, bottom feeders wouldn’t be interested at that price

Hunt 50/50, he may get traded

Gauthier? Who cares

How is Rydahl exempt, he is a pro, he was a pro in the swedish leagues? I think once a pro at a certain amount of pro seasons regardless of overseas or not, you go through waivers

ELC

 

[bobbop]

Hunt was well liked in Arizona. He didn’t want to stay here (who does?)

If he goes on waivers, AZ would be a likely landing spot.

 

[Alluckks]

Lines I want

Laf Zib Blais
Panarin Trochek Kravstov
Kreider Chytil Kakko
Goodrow Rhydal Vesey


Lines I expect

Kreider Zib Blais
Panarin Trocheck Kravstov
Laf Chytil Kakko
Goodrow Carpenter Reaves

 

[mike14]

I think, as a rookie, never has played/signed in the NHL prior, even though he is older, he must sign an entry level contract, and all entry level contracts are waiver exempt.

Here's the table from the CBA for waivers:

Based on that he should be exempt for this season. Other relevant info:

So because he's never been on an SPC before and loaned back to Europe, those professional seasons don't count for waiver purposes

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Here is the flip side of the whole "Ryhdal is exempt from waivers so he'll get sent down". If management truly feels he is better then Carpenter (which he has shown in spades the 3 preseason games he's played in), he will make the team. The reason being he will be a ufa after this season. If he is as good as he's shown so far, Rangers can't risk having a player of his caliber walk after this season to keep a player like Carpenter, who in all likelihood won't get claimed.

 

[GENESISPuck94]

Over/Under how many times this season Gauthier drives the net but forgets he has the puck or a stick, doesn't shoot, and just runs the goaltender?

Typically it's at least once per game, he's already done it at least twice this pre-season.

 

[GENESISPuck94]

Here is the flip side of the whole "Ryhdal is exempt from waivers so he'll get sent down". If management truly feels he is better then Carpenter (which he has shown in spades the 3 preseason games he's played in), he will make the team. The reason being he will be a ufa after this season. If he is as good as he's shown so far, Rangers can't risk having a player of his caliber walk after this season to keep a player like Carpenter, who in all likelihood won't get claimed.

100% And hopefully the Rangers are smart enough to make the obvious decision.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Very few players so far have I seen absolutely nothing from. And I mean nothing. Nothing to build off of. No benefit to the team what so ever. Carpenter is one of them.

 

[jerseyjinx94]

I use one. That’s the worst part…

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[pld459666]

Reaves should teach Gauthier how to fight. Gauthier should reinvent himself as a tough guy with his size it might save his NHL career.

It's not in his heart.

You can't fake that aspect of the game

 

[NYRKing]

Gauthier is a donezo. Gallant didn’t use him last year, he won’t this year, and I don’t blame him. Not enough jam or defensive awareness for bottom 6 and he can’t finish on a scoring line. Cut the bait.

Vesey has earned a spot. Weird to see it but he can be an effective depth forward and can score.

Carpenter is still the 4th line C. I’d be surprised if this changed.

Rydahl looks good but he’s still an unknown. I think they still keep hunt since Gallant loves him

Kreider-Zibanejad-Blais
Panarin-Trocheck-Kravtsov
Lafreniere-Chytil-Kakko
Vesey-carpenter -Goodrow
Reaves
Hunt

 

[Avery16]

Here is the flip side of the whole "Ryhdal is exempt from waivers so he'll get sent down". If management truly feels he is better then Carpenter (which he has shown in spades the 3 preseason games he's played in), he will make the team. The reason being he will be a ufa after this season. If he is as good as he's shown so far, Rangers can't risk having a player of his caliber walk after this season to keep a player like Carpenter, who in all likelihood won't get claimed.

We’ve made that mistake before. I’m not convinced that we’ve learned as an org and won’t do it again.