Speculation: Roster Building Thread: New Season Edition

[McRanger92]

It's not worth rehashing a trade more than one season later. But that's what we do. We're multiple seasons past Fast not being lept, I suppose Motte's name will be brought up for ages. Some people never let something go.

Yes, we know. you like this guy or that guy and in most cases most people agree, it wuld have been good to keep them. So PLEASE let it go. Who cares is you can finagle numbers on a spread sheet. The only relevent questions are, what can be done going forward. And even there, I'd prefer to talk about the teams we have and the games coming up, not a trade deadline months from now.

No, I didn't just show up here yesterday. I KNOW what's going to happen at HF

Agreed on the Buch trade, either way its ancient history. I will say i would not be shocked to see the Rangers trade for Motte again by the deadline. Like the Mets and Kelly Johnson

 

[Boris Zubov]

Agreed on the Buch trade, either way its ancient history. I will say i would not be shocked to see the Rangers trade for Motte again by the deadline. Like the Mets and Kelly Johnson

He's about the only guy out there we can fit in under our cap.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Another Fluff piece:

 

[Savant]

Why on earth are we re-litigating the Buchnevich trade? Everyone basically hated it at the time, and pretty much everyone still obviously hates it now. They thought their kids would be ready to jump into the top-9 RW spots and it obviously didn't turn out that way.

Don’t forget Blais has been useless

 

[egelband]

So I am reading this right, you are proposing Laff and Kakko doubleshifts with Chytil? That is a cute idea, has a team done that before?

I think the idea is that if Laf and Kakko aren’t getting PP time, mix them into another line when Mika and Artemi are resting after a PP.
some posters contend that GG is already doing that though.
I haven’t been paying such close attention but I definitely support the idea of getting KK and Laf as much ice as possible.

 

[SA16]

I think the idea is that if Laf and Kakko aren’t getting PP time, mix them into another line when Mika and Artemi are resting after a PP.
some posters contend that GG is already doing that though.
I haven’t been paying such close attention but I definitely support the idea of getting KK and Laf as much ice as possible.

They're #2 and #4 on the team in 5v5 ice time. The ice time isn't an issue. Laf is #20 in the league in 5v5 ice time among forwards who have played at least 100 mintes.

 

[TominNC]

I think the idea is that if Laf and Kakko aren’t getting PP time, mix them into another line when Mika and Artemi are resting after a PP.
some posters contend that GG is already doing that though.
I haven’t been paying such close attention but I definitely support the idea of getting KK and Laf as much ice as possible.

It’s exactly what they’re doing. It worked great. The Chytil got hurt

 

[Ori]

How to get Jack Hughes

 

[bleedblue94]

How to get Jack Hughes

Haha, remember the celebration when the devil's picked him and kakko fell to us?

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

It's not worth rehashing a trade more than one season later. But that's what we do. We're multiple seasons past Fast not being lept, I suppose Motte's name will be brought up for ages. Some people never let something go.

Yes, we know. you like this guy or that guy and in most cases most people agree, it wuld have been good to keep them. So PLEASE let it go. Who cares is you can finagle numbers on a spread sheet. The only relevent questions are, what can be done going forward. And even there, I'd prefer to talk about the teams we have and the games coming up, not a trade deadline months from now.

No, I didn't just show up here yesterday. I KNOW what's going to happen at HF

Tbf. It's also not worth offering trades, making our own fantasy lineups, complaining about game outcomes or really doing anything here.

Except discussion for discussions sake.

We could literally have a two page discussion on what the arbitrary cutoff should be for when we can never discuss a move again and we'll still be talking about Jessiman in 2053

All i know is soneone said they didn't think we could possibly have fit buch cap or roster wise and goddammit all my brain needed to take that as a personal challenge until breakfast time

 

[TominNC]

Tbf. It's also not worth offering trades, making our own fantasy lineups, complaining about game outcomes or really doing anything here.

Except discussion for discussions sake.

We could literally have a two page discussion on what the arbitrary cutoff should be for when we can never discuss a move again and we'll still be talking about Jessiman in 2053

All i know is soneone said they didn't think we could possibly have fit buch cap or roster wise and goddammit all my brain needed to take that as a personal challenge until breakfast time

Looking back is pointless. Especially for the ones I mentioned done by a prior regime. Buch will be on Drury’s ledger for awhile. But it’s still over. I do agree that a lot of what people go on about is pointless.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

Me: "looking back is pointless, but so is pretty much everything here"

You:

Looking back is pointless.

I...yes...?

So is reiterating that it's pointless and so is deciding what's arbitrarily especially pointless...but that didn't stop u. So where you going w this lol? Dis an NPC?

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Glad Gauthier is playing well. He needs to just worry about defense and try and draw penalties.

If he can do his one "WWF Attitude Era" move once a game, that's fine.

I don't think he's in danger of being waived again anytime soon. I think we don't see Chytil for a while (maybe after All Star Break) and Kravstov for at least a month.

Carpenter is the one who should be waived, but I can see Vesey if Gauthier outproduces him. Vesey's been very average after the first game. Reaves while he makes too much and honestly doesn't look any better this year, you can see how important he is in the room.

 

[Barnaby]

Me: "looking back is pointless, but so is pretty much everything here"

You:

I...yes...?

So is reiterating that it's pointless and so is deciding what's arbitrarily especially pointless...but that didn't stop u. So where you going w this lol? Dis an NPC?

The only thing I see is virtually everyone else on this board being over and done with it. No one liked the deal then. No one likes the deal now. The regime was dealing him whether we liked it or not. The team seemed to be headed in that direction for quite some time. Drury wasn’t set to pay Buch and he was looking to change a culture with guys like Goodrow, Blais, and Reaves. That seemed to be a big part of his mandate following the Wilson/Panarin/Dolan nonsense. Let’s all move on and discuss the merits of the current team and what could be done to improve it both long term and short term. That seems to be the sensible route. It’s like going back and saying we should’ve kept McDonough. That also wasn’t happening regardless of how brutal the result of the trade was or what we can do switching guys in and out on Capfriendly in 2022.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

The only thing I see is virtually everyone else on this board being over and done with it. No one liked the deal then. No one likes the deal now. The regime was dealing him whether we liked it or not. The team seemed to be headed in that direction for quite some time. Drury wasn’t set to pay Buch and he was looking to change a culture with guys like Goodrow, Blais, and Reaves. That seemed to be a big part of his mandate following the Wilson/Panarin/Dolan nonsense. Let’s all move on and discuss the merits of the current team and what could be done to improve it both long term and short term. That seems to be the sensible route. It’s like going back and saying we should’ve kept McDonough. That also wasn’t happening regardless of how brutal the result of the trade was or what we can do switching guys in and out on Capfriendly in 2022.

Part of being a Rangers fan is not being able to get over things....apparently.

Until Cup number five is won, we're going to hear about every mistake from Rick Middleton to Pavel Buchnevich.

 

[Barnaby]

Part of being a Rangers fan is not being able to get over things....apparently.

Until Cup number five is won, we're going to hear about every mistake from Rick Middleton to Pavel Buchnevich.

Of course. It’s just the stuff that was clearly never happening being regurgitated ad nauseam that can get irritating.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

The only thing I see is virtually everyone else on this board being over and done with it.

Someone else brought it up and about a dozen people couldn't help but reply.

The energy wasted on whining about it being discussed fueled the discussion twice as much as the actual topic. It's dumb, hypocritical, arbitrary forum gatekeeping stuff.


Someone said it couldn't be done, I showed it could. If you didn't want to be in the discussion, don't reply to it. It's frustrating seeing a bunch of people hypocritically whine and gatekeep discussion too.

I'm seeing people talk about how sad it is to be losing key board members. No wonder.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

Part of being a Rangers fan is not being able to get over things....apparently.

Until Cup number five is won, we're going to hear about every mistake from Rick Middleton to Pavel Buchnevich.

I can't speak for other times its been brought up but no one was even bitching about the move in this case. I just had some fun figuring out cap and roster space bc some1 said they werent sure it couldve fit.

That was it. Then people started being dicks about it so I tried being polite but in the end I've got like 5 or 6 people added to an ignore list.

The only bitching keeps coming from people whining about how pointless it is to discuss it.

 

[haohmaru]

Someone said it couldn't be done, I showed it could. If you didn't want to be in the discussion, don't reply to it. It's frustrating seeing a bunch of people hypocritically whine and gatekeep discussion too.

I'm seeing people talk about how sad it is to be losing key board members. No wonder.

Most cap situations can be dealt with the way you "showed it can be done" by swapping one guy for 3-4 players at league minimum - but that wasn't even the point.

The point was THIS YEAR. The Rangers knew something had to give (and look at how close the shave is this year without factoring in Buchnevich's 5.8M) and choices had to be made. Nobody liked the return, but Buchnevich was a cap casualty. Had the cap been rising like it should've been, we wouldn't be having this conversation at all.

As to the last sentence, yeah, losing some key people like Edge really sucks but it's not because of conversations like the one(s) you're having.

 

[McRanger92]

Through 10 games, give me Gavrikov & Motte at the deadline. There wont be any blockbuster moves by this team unless they need to LTIR someone until the playoffs. Im sure they can make the money work even it it means moving Blais. I think Othmann will also make an impact at some point late in the season.

They are clearly a playoff team, just need to stay healthy. Once we are in, I like our chances against anyone.

 

[TominNC]

Me: "looking back is pointless, but so is pretty much everything here"

You:

I...yes...?

So is reiterating that it's pointless and so is deciding what's arbitrarily especially pointless...but that didn't stop u. So where you going w this lol? Dis an NPC?

I love the turn it around post. So predictable. Yes everything is pointless. How philosophical.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Yeah, really wish we could have kept Motte. Although theres no way he would have 7 points in 8 games for us, its against the law for the Rangers to get production from their bottom 6.

 

[mas0764]

It's not worth rehashing a trade more than one season later.

It is absolutely worth remembering and learning from your mistakes so you don't make them again.

How to get Jack Hughes

How to get Zegras.

And Lundell.

So is reiterating that it's pointless and so is deciding what's arbitrarily especially pointless...but that didn't stop u. So where you going w this lol? Dis an NPC?

The people who try to shut down criticism of past mistakes usually have an ulterior motive, and in the case of the Buch trade, it's usually to protect the regime.

 

[Mac n Gs]

 

[QJL]

Most cap situations can be dealt with the way you "showed it can be done" by swapping one guy for 3-4 players at league minimum - but that wasn't even the point.

The point was THIS YEAR. The Rangers knew something had to give (and look at how close the shave is this year without factoring in Buchnevich's 5.8M) and choices had to be made. Nobody liked the return, but Buchnevich was a cap casualty. Had the cap been rising like it should've been, we wouldn't be having this conversation at all.

As to the last sentence, yeah, losing some key people like Edge really sucks but it's not because of conversations like the one(s) you're having.

I’m sure it’s been mentioned, but why did we lose Edge? Enjoyed following his insight.