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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: New Season Edition

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It's almost like you guys jump to conclusions.

Also, Krav sucks. While Goat may be the same player he was 2 years ago, at least you hear his name called in the game. Krav may as well be in the press box for the impact he has on the game.

If everybody really stuck to their guns and wanted the players in the lineup that looked the best in preseason and training camp, like many on this board claim, then Goat should be in the lineup.
 
Kravtsov, Jones and a 1st for Chychrun @ 50% and Hayton.

Might cost more but I'm down.
 
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EdJovanovski said:
I'll ignore the fact you're trading the chosen one and imagine this is Kakko instead, but still, WHY DO WE NEED MORE DEFENSE???? Why does everyone think this??? 😂😭
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because we need a guy capable moving the puck and not being a detriment on offense

It's 2022. Hockey has changed.
 
duhmetreE said:
because we need a guy capable moving the puck and not being a detriment on offense

It's 2022. Hockey has changed.
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Jones is already a great puckmover, I don't see that much of Arizona but Chycrun never struck me as an overly offensive dman. Always thought of him as a McDonagh type. He's only produced well offensively one season his career. Maybe we shouldn't have traded Lundkvist, Schneider is so overrated and I've said this since last year. He's sucked so far, meanwhile Lundkvist has twice as many points as Kakko.

We have Jones, Fox, Miller who can all move the puck. I think this is more of a coaching issue than a personnel one
 
EdJovanovski said:
Jones is already a great puckmover, I don't see that much of Arizona but Chycrun never struck me as an overly offensive dman. Always thought of him as a McDonagh type. He's only produced well offensively one season his career. Maybe we shouldn't have traded Lundkvist, Schneider is so overrated and I've said this since last year. He's sucked so far, meanwhile Lundkvist has twice as many points as Kakko.

We have Jones, Fox, Miller who can all move the puck. I think this is more of a coaching issue than a personnel one
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Being realistic here... Jones can't even stay in the lineup against Hajek. Any small mistake and he's out next game. He does not have the size that Gallant wants. Whether it's warranted or not, it is what it is.

Jones can be a puck mover but he'd be doing it on the 3rd pair for 10minutes. Things change drastically if Chychrun is getting 20 minutes with Fox and Lindgren solidifies the 3rd pair.

We suck at transition. It is a system issue but a strong puck mover would help. Lindgren is a strong defender. He's not a top pair guy. Not taking for granted what he means to the team, we still need him but in a different role/scenario.
 
Am I losing my mind or was Hajek actually pretty good the last couple of games? I know it's fun to pile on the guy because expectations were so high but he looked like a serviceable bottom-pairing d-man the last couple of games. Honestly, by the eye test, better than Schneider.
 
NYR Viper said:
Am I losing my mind or was Hajek actually pretty good the last couple of games? I know it's fun to pile on the guy because expectations were so high but he looked like a serviceable bottom-pairing d-man the last couple of games. Honestly, by the eye test, better than Schneider.
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I thought he had a strong game against Colorado.. I really wasn't paying attention against NYI...
 
EdJovanovski said:


Great idea rushing Chytil guys
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That pp unit is a complete waste, just another hodgepodge of guys tossed together that wont have any cohesion.

The only reason chytil skated is bc the team is floundering right now and it is mini panic time if you look at the standings and where their game is. People can pretend that everything is okay, but it isn't. 6th in the division, -4 goal dif, team has a soft schedule until december and then they play more games against good teams, yet they are 500 right now. They need to change this soon.

They almost look like the leafs in the sense the leafs look like they dont care and that they only need to worry about the playoffs and winning a round, nyr looks like a group that just thinks they will automatically make the playoffs, they look like a group with a cup hangover but that didnt win the cup. they do not look hungry.
 
duhmetreE said:
Being realistic here... Jones can't even stay in the lineup against Hajek. Any small mistake and he's out next game. He does not have the size that Gallant wants. Whether it's warranted or not, it is what it is.

Jones can be a puck mover but he'd be doing it on the 3rd pair for 10minutes. Things change drastically if Chychrun is getting 20 minutes with Fox and Lindgren solidifies the 3rd pair.

We suck at transition. It is a system issue but a strong puck mover would help. Lindgren is a strong defender. He's not a top pair guy.
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So we agree then lol
But I don't want to make risky big trades just to appease the guy who uses his tie as a napkin, Drury should tell the clown to use the players properly or he'll hail a cab
 
NYR Viper said:
Am I losing my mind or was Hajek actually pretty good the last couple of games? I know it's fun to pile on the guy because expectations were so high but he looked like a serviceable bottom-pairing d-man the last couple of games. Honestly, by the eye test, better than Schneider.
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nothing flashy, but he battled a lot using his body for leverage.

i think right now people are so frustrated with the team that the easy targets are the people that fans have historically piled on, and he is one of them.
 
EdJovanovski said:
So we agree then lol
But I don't want to make risky big trades just to appease the guy who uses his tie as a napkin, Drury should tell the clown to use the players properly or he'll hail a cab
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I don't think it's risky, Chychrun at $2.3M is a steal.

I think Kravtsov will be a strong player eventually, but it's not anytime soon. Jones is not big enough for Gallant. We have 2 1sts.

It's essentially using Kravtsov and a 1st to upgrade Jones.
 
duhmetreE said:
I thought he had a strong game against Colorado.. I really wasn't paying attention against NYI...
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He had a few sequences where he gained leverage on Anders Lee that impressed me a bit and he seems to be timing his 'spin-away' move on the boards better allowing for him to slip checks a bit better. I'm not saying he's going to be a top-pairing guy but I didn't see this horrendous player people make him out to be. Honestly, and I said this to start the year, one of the things I was hoping for entering this season was for Hajek to develop into a nice, steady, bottom-pairing LD. Cost controlled. Good skater.
 
duhmetreE said:
Being realistic here... Jones can't even stay in the lineup against Hajek. Any small mistake and he's out next game. He does not have the size that Gallant wants. Whether it's warranted or not, it is what it is.

Jones can be a puck mover but he'd be doing it on the 3rd pair for 10minutes. Things change drastically if Chychrun is getting 20 minutes with Fox and Lindgren solidifies the 3rd pair.

We suck at transition. It is a system issue but a strong puck mover would help. Lindgren is a strong defender. He's not a top pair guy. Not taking for granted what he means to the team, we still need him but in a different role/scenario.
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let me ask this, what are you trading for chychrun?

what are you really willing to trade bc black and white they want and eventually will get the value of two 1sts and a b prospect in a deal with that cap hit and term, not to mention they may be able to retain 50% which will also cost.

I promise you arent getting him for kravtsov and a 1st
 
bleedblue94 said:
let me ask this, what are you trading for chychrun?

what are you really willing to trade bc black and white they want and eventually will get the value of two 1sts and a b prospect in a deal with that cap hit and term, not to mention they may be able to retain 50% which will also cost.
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Kravtsov, Jones and a 1st.

Maybe add a player like Berard

NYR Viper said:
He had a few sequences where he gained leverage on Anders Lee that impressed me a bit and he seems to be timing his 'spin-away' move on the boards better allowing for him to slip checks a bit better. I'm not saying he's going to be a top-pairing guy but I didn't see this horrendous player people make him out to be. Honestly, and I said this to start the year, one of the things I was hoping for entering this season was for Hajek to develop into a nice, steady, bottom-pairing LD. Cost controlled. Good skater.
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most of his issues are mental/positioning. He has all the physical tools to be a top4 defenseman.

When he first came here, I thought we scored another McDonagh... specifically his fluid skating... or at least that's how he looked initially... but he didn't, or still doesn't know how to avoid getting hit/injured.
 
rangersfansince08 said:
I think they're just head and shoulders above the rest and they haven't hit their stride. They'll get Landeskog back and be able to add at the deadline. No team can roll out 4 great PMD like Toews, Maker, Girard and Byram.
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The Rangers are only allowed to ice one defenseman at a time that can actually move the puck. Unless they are over 6-2 then exceptions can be made.
 
duhmetreE said:
Kravtsov, Jones and a 1st.

Maybe add a player like Berard


most of his issues are mental/positioning. He has all the physical tools to be a top4 defenseman.

When he first came here, I thought we scored another McDonagh... specifically his fluid skating... or at least that's how he looked initially... but he didn't, or still doesn't know how to avoid getting hit/injured.
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That's what makes him more frustrating. Same with Gauthier and Chytil/Kreider (to a lesser extent).
 
duhmetreE said:
Being realistic here... Jones can't even stay in the lineup against Hajek. Any small mistake and he's out next game. He does not have the size that Gallant wants. Whether it's warranted or not, it is what it is.

Jones can be a puck mover but he'd be doing it on the 3rd pair for 10minutes. Things change drastically if Chychrun is getting 20 minutes with Fox and Lindgren solidifies the 3rd pair.

We suck at transition. It is a system issue but a strong puck mover would help. Lindgren is a strong defender. He's not a top pair guy. Not taking for granted what he means to the team, we still need him but in a different role/scenario.
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Is Chychrun even a good puckmover? I haven't seen the microstats on him, Intuitively I'd say he's good, probably better than everyone but Fox and Jones on the Rangers D. I advocated for acquiring him last year but the cost would be hefty with 50% retention.
 
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