Speculation: Roster Building Thread LXXXIII: Smell a smaller trade incoming?

[SRHRangers]

Vegas are major starf***ers and major win now team. They would be a good option for Zib.

They would seal the deal up with DJing Saturday Nights at whatever club he wants in th casinos.

 

[Fitzy]

Strome+Buch+(One of) Lundy/Schneider/Robertson+1st is the highest I would go for Eichel.

And that probably doesn't get it done, but I'd hold the line there. No interest in most of the packages that have been floated around.

It's also kinda hard to tell with Eichel (As it was with Nash) what kind of playoff player he would be, when he literally has never been in them.

Strome doesn't have much value, and the team would miss his depth, but his salary is important here.

Buchnevich has a lot of value, but who knows if the Sabres want players who are 25-26 rather than 20-22.

ONE of our D prospects only, since we still have a lot of learning to do about Jones, Robertson, Schneider, Reunanen, Lundkvist, and Miller.

Our first round pick this season could very well be top ten, so that ends up being a major consideration as well.

Not interested in dealing Chytil right as he starts to get going.

 

[DutchShamrock]

I'm convinced there's no way an Eichel trades comes off without one of Zibanejad, Kakko, or Lafreniere being involved. But stranger things have happened when a situation becomes untenable, and Eichel/Buffalo are headed there.

I don't think Zibanejad is a roadblock for the Rangers. A year ago you were looking at a Eichel type contract to lock him up at a much older age. Swap them out and that's a massive win. Brassard to Zibanejad to Eichel. Put up a statute for Gorton.

Not sure why Buffalo targets him with only 1 year left. It's me convincing myself, but maybe you can lock him in at a discount with this poor season and hopes he bounces back.

A package built around Mika, Georgiev, prospect and a PROTECTED 1st.

 

[leetch99]

I would prefer Barkov over Eichel.

I was just looking at Florida Cap moving forward . There is no way they let Barkov walk....I don't think they have any problem resigning him in that warm and friendly tax climate . AT the very minimum....they will have two good C's in Barkov and Hub and an expensive goalie and little of much else . They don't look like a great team on paper unless I missed something .

 

[Uncle Sid]

I like Chytil but i'm not making him untouchable for Eichel lol.

It does cause us problems though because getting Eichel makes it nearly impossible to keep Zibanejad unless he continues to regress so hard that we can extend him for cheap. If we had just drafted Lapierre instead of Schneider (or just drafted some decent centers at all) we wouldn't have this problem

I agree that landing Eichel probably does spell the end for Mika in NY. That is what I keep circling back to in my mind, and that is why I am not crazy about the idea of including Chytil. I am not saying that he is untouchable by any stretch, but it certainly creates another hole.

 

[True Blue]

A lot of guys here mention Barkov as a target. Where has that ever been said by people in the know? Florida would be nuts to not lock him up long term. This is all BS right?

Given what’s going on in Florida, the Barkov looks like more and more unlikely

 

[Fitzy]

I agree that landing Eichel probably does spell the end for Mika in NY. That is what I keep circling back to in my mind, and that is why I am not crazy about the idea of including Chytil. I am not saying that he is untouchable by any stretch, but it certainly creates another hole.

Then when Mika departs, unless you've gotten a blue chip C prospect for him, you end up with Strome as 2C still and no forseeable answer for the third line spot.

If Eichel means Mika out, they can't trade Chytil. You've got to find some other way to make it work or reneg on the idea entirely.

If Zibanejad's game returns to form (Which it may well, IDK why we assume it won't) NYR hold all the leverage in terms of not being forced into a decision.

 

[Avery16]

Vegas are major starf***ers and major win now team. They would be a good option for Zib.

Where do they get the cap space for a move like that

 

[RangersFan1994]

Where do they get the cap space for a move like that

Tuch to NYR would have to be part of the deal.

 

[Avery16]

A lot of guys here mention Barkov as a target. Where has that ever been said by people in the know? Florida would be nuts to not lock him up long term. This is all BS right?

A number of speculative articles have been published in the past year. Most are premised around the Panthers being a bad org and team, and that Barkov may prefer to move.

 

[leetch99]

you have a better chance of DeAngelo plays another game for the Rangers

You know what...it has been such a crazy year that is something I would not want to bet against . Maybe they have him take some life changing courses from a shrink or whatever....he is still a Ranger asset of sorts .....see if we can polish the tarnished genie again and restore some lustre and maybe we get something better for him by the start of next season. It's NY....anything is possible these times . LMAO....maybe I get crucified for saying that...oh well....been a fan for almost 50 years now....I have taken my lumps believe you me .

 

[cheech70]

Then when Mika departs, unless you've gotten a blue chip C prospect for him, you end up with Strome as 2C still and no forseeable answer for the third line spot.

If Eichel means Mika out, they can't trade Chytil. You've got to find some other way to make it work or reneg on the idea entirely.

If Zibanejad's game returns to form (Which it may well, IDK why we assume it won't) NYR hold all the leverage in terms of not being forced into a decision.

Everyone wants to get rid of Mika..HOW?? He has a NMC????

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Not much of note in here other than it’s officially front and center w Brooks:

https://www.nypost.com/2021/03/02/rangers-will-be-at-front-of-line-when-sabres-shop-jack-eichel/amp/

 

[Tob]

The winning play has to be replace Mika with Eichel. Better younger and we can do that without losing the young players we've drafted. 50% retained on Mika for 2 runs will fetch more than 60% of what we need for Eichel or to replace the subtractions.

We need to actually get success from young centers and not just keep Mika at $8.5M long term and add Eichel. Fil can be the 2C and the rest will follow. At worst, we can always sign a bigger name C at a later date if Fil tops out at 2C/3C.

1st, 1st, roster player, A prospect, B prospects. Give them the 2021st and 2022 1st, Buchnevich+Strome, one of Nils/Vitali plus whatever they want from Howden, Gauthier, Hajek, Lemieux and any B prospect they want etc.

 

[Avery16]

Tuch to NYR would have to be part of the deal.

What are we going to do with a sixth top-six wing?

 

[Tob]

Everyone wants to get rid of Mika..HOW?? He has a NMC????

If it's Vegas, I'm sure he would go. Great city, lots of DJing opportunities with a great winning organization to chase the cup with.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

Don't want no part of Eichel, the price we'll pay will be stupid.

I fully expect him to not be traded to NYR and can't wait for the talk to end.

 

[rangers1314]

Vegas is interesting.

There was a lot of talk regarding unrest within their locker room. The constant juggling of the roster was pissing guys off. Schmidt was a very popular guy, and while trading him to make room for Petro was a clear upgrade, losing him didn't sit well. Nor did the talk of trading Patches shortly after he signed that extension.

Zib would clearly fit there, but you wonder what it would do to moral to see a guy like Tuch be sent packing if hes part

 

[Avery16]

would like to see him get some minutes this season

 

[TheDirtyH]

Hope Danault is in play this season or this summer. As far as a young Stepan goes, he's pretty close to that. And coming of a down-season he might be gettable at a number we can work with.

 

[Woncka]

@pld459666 "If Eichel is the franchise altering player hes made out to be, why has he not altered Buffalo?"

you dont actually believe that, right?

why has McDavid not altered Edmonton? I mean.. they have a single playoff round win.

this isnt the NBA - one player doesnt carry an entire team.

Jack Eichel is better than Artemi Panarin. And would be the best forward the Rangers have had since.. Messier?

 

[rangers1314]

would like to see him get some minutes this season

It's perplexing as to why it hasn't happened already.

 

[Fitzy]

Eichel absolutely is not better than Panarin lol

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

@pld459666 "If Eichel is the franchise altering player hes made out to be, why has he not altered Buffalo?"

you dont actually believe that, right?

why has McDavid not altered Edmonton? I mean.. they have a single playoff round win.

this isnt the NBA - one player doesnt carry an entire team.

Jack Eichel is better than Artemi Panarin. And would be the best forward the Rangers have had since.. Messier?

No hes not lol

also jagr

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Don't want no part of Eichel, the price we'll pay will be stupid.

I fully expect him to not be traded to NYR and can't wait for the talk to end.

Riveting...