Thirty One
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@GAGLine was the first to mention that we were in for a squeeze with performance bonuses shortly after the deadline.
Speculation: Roster Building Thread LXIV: Less than 24 hours till draft time
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bleedblue94
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Wouldn't do it, you would be betting on two assets hopefully working out versus keeping the one elite assets that is much safer to be an impact player. It would need to be more than what you floated
Well he comes off as a really nice kid haha.
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I actually think hes a pretty safe bet to play in the NHL. He's big and he can skate, at the very least there is the makings of a better version of Brian Boyle.
I think the offensive potential, while its there and legitimate, is a bit overstated. He's got the whole Rick Nash "too much junior" in his game thing going on. His individual shot rates were not great either and he isn't a dummy, but I wouldn't call him a high level thinker, that alone kind of docks the potential down a notch or two for me.
The OHL was basically a glorified shinny league this year.
I wouldn't.
Vilardi has a history of back issues, Kupari is meh and I've never been super high on Turcotte.
Bjornfot isn't anything overly special either.
UAGoalieGuy
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Haven't we been talking about this and the performance bonuses? Doesn't sound like new news for us but the pundits catching up to what we've been discussing for weeks.
Yeah, but it's draft day and everyone is amped up and on edge. So this will really stir the pot.
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he's probably going to score 40 points in his first 3 seasons and then suddenly jump into the 80 point category.
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he was. Rare issue to be presented with but I dont think its that dire.
It makes decisions tougher. If we didn't have the bonus issue, Strome would have been signed/qualified already.
It comes down to, 'Is Strome worth the dead cap space?' We can still survive with an absurd amount of dead cap space next year... but if it does happen, it should be for a player with a long term future here
We will more than likely be surpassing the Bonus limit next year too. Lafreniere, Kakko, Fox and possibly Kravtsov, Miller etc.
Too many alternatives to Strome on the market right now, all due to make considerably less than what Strome could fetch and we could get stuck with in an arbitration award.
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JimmyG89
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LA does not have anything that is super interesting to me. Turcotte is a very nice player, but a trade focused on Byfield and Turcotte isn't enough for me. Their other prospects don't move the needle for us since our system is stacked. Where does Kaliev fit in when we've got guys like Kakko and Kravtsov already? He's not jumping over Panarin or Kreider anytime soon. Madden is a nice player too, but what are we looking at there? a 3rd line center down the line?
Just stay at #1, take Lafreniere, and if you want to get a top end C prospect, either draft one or maybe swing a separate deal for one. Unless there was a 1A/1B situation, similar to last season, and you get the top pick, maybe you can think about moving down to add assets and more pieces. It just doesn't make any sense this year.
Just stay at #1, take Lafreniere, and if you want to get a top end C prospect, either draft one or maybe swing a separate deal for one. Unless there was a 1A/1B situation, similar to last season, and you get the top pick, maybe you can think about moving down to add assets and more pieces. It just doesn't make any sense this year.
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If I have it right, never a given.
It looks like the Rangers would be exceeding their bonus cushion of 7.5% on day 1 of the cap unless they are ~4M under it the ceiling on day 1.
So therefor they need to be ~4M under the cap
Yet since it's day 1, they could start those who have possible big bonuses in the minors on Day 1. The total 4M combined possible bonuses on the NHL roster day 1 could be zero, they'd just have to start on day 1, players who did not have bonuses in lieu of those who do.
Which means Laf and Kakko probably would start day 1 in the minors and someone like PDG would start if he is still with them. (could be any depth player(s) really)
Instead, it looks like they are going to try to go into the season essentially 4M under the ceiling. (likely plus some)
I mean I get the optics of them not wanting to start Laf, Kakko in the minors, yet that trade off means they are likely to lose some asset, Strome, or return for that asset for nothing to account for that 4M.
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Atta boy OEL. Let's give the fans some fireworks sooner rather than later.
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Yeah, and while it will cause some concern getting under the cap initial, most of the bonuses won't be realized, and there won't be a bonus overage carry into next year's cap. Though as you say, there will be an issue with that year's bonuses too.
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I’m in the same boat. I think LA has talent but it’s the wrong timeline. We need a C that can contribute immediately. Maybe Vilardi can give that to you, but I’m not screaming for that. Byfield would be someone you would hope could fill that, but it’s an unnecessary dice roll. There is nothing on LA that would be that offer that you can’t justify refusing. We are exiting the rebuild phase, they are still in theirs and that’s where their assets are.
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Still think he would be a real nice depth signing for this team. Although there are other guys who are intriguing as well.
Janmark is hardly an alternative to Strome. Same age, career high of 34 points and has taken a total of 95 face offs over the past 143 games. He’s a bottom six LW. Not a center and certainly not a potential 2C.
Chytilmania
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Anyone have an idea what these bonuses are and the likelihood of EVERYONE hitting?
If Wennberg is bought out, he’s the only one I’d be very interested in. He could definitely benefit from a change of scenery, but if not he is still already proven as a highly capable defensive 3C.
Put up 40 in 69 as a sophomore, followed by 59 in 82, and 35 in 66. Hasn’t meshed under Torts’ system in Columbus but has talent and would be a defensively sound center for the third line either way.
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The more I think of it the more we need a good name for the crowd to cheer. Buch might get traded anytime between now and the end of his contract and we already got rid of Henrik. So we have I-Gor and that's it? We don't have Staal to actually boo.
Hen-drix, Hen-drix
Guuuuuhhhhhle
Am I missing anyone?
Hen-drix, Hen-drix
Guuuuuhhhhhle
Am I missing anyone?
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Rangers are aware of bonuses, but not fixated on it.
But it's a reminder that this isn't a team that's going out and adding $12 million in salary just because it "can" on paper.
But it's a reminder that this isn't a team that's going out and adding $12 million in salary just because it "can" on paper.
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