Speculation: Roster Building Thread LXIII - As the bell tolls, who will stay who will go?

[Kovalev27]

How many goals does Eichel score with Panarin? 50? 60?

IMO getting Eichel means Zibanejad is most likely gone in 2 years. Maybe that's the point. To transition to a longer term 1C. Hopefully he could develop a 2way game.

It also means our defensive group gets weaker and relies heavily on kids. Suspect path to take

I’m not sure mika is going to get 10 mil. Not at 29 not in this climate. He’d have to put up 2 seasons of what he just did and what he just did was basically top center in the league type production. He was scoring at the highest gpg average of anyone. I’m not sure that’s sustainable. I think he’s a point per game player. At 29 though in this flat cap climate. 10 million dollar offers may not be out there like they have been lately.

but regardless I’d bet management is more than willing to cross that bridge when they come to it. They have two years of Mika and eichel together with laf and Kakko on ELCs

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

I think Strome goes.

I'm not sure they can trade them unless they either have his replacement or a deal in place for his replacement (even if that means Strome goes in that deal).

 

[Waivers]

How many goals does Eichel score with Panarin? 50? 60?

IMO getting Eichel means Zibanejad is most likely gone in 2 years. Maybe that's the point. To transition to a longer term 1C. Hopefully he could develop a 2way game.

It also means our defensive group gets weaker and relies heavily on kids. Suspect path to take

It’s fair to say that Eichel would be the insurance plan relative to Zibanejad. Let’s see how Zibanejad plays the next 2 seasons, along with any unforeseen injuries. The Rangers will be in a good position.

 

[TheDirtyH]

I would give up every name on Edge's list plus the #22 for Eichel.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I don't think I want to trade Miller in an Eichel deal, he's arguably our best defensive prospect. I also worry about losing Mika if we trade for Eichel. I'd rather have Mika than Eichel minus top prospects.

 

[Mikos87]

What is interesting is that if:

-The main pieces in an Eichel trade are being offered for other packages around the league AND if JG is the one who leaked Buffalo's "astronomical asking price" for Eichel...

That means that JG is most interested in a deal with Buffalo, and all other deals are secondary. I say that because a leak like that would lend other teams to feel that a deal with Buffalo is unlikely, and that takes leverage away from the NYR when negotiating for other packages.

If you are suggesting that the leak to Herman was from a place that Eich may want to go, then yes. It's a classic negotiation tactic, but also alerts the market that things that are not public, may end up going public. In a situation such as this, the player has a lot of sway.

For the Rangers, it would be great to have a deal done tomorrow, but when you are dealing with something of this magnitude, hard deadlines the hardest when the player's actions dictate what they are.

 

[Raspewtin]

Jack Eichel
Jake McCabe

For

Filip Chytil
Vitali Kravtsov
Matthew Robertson
Ryan Strome (cap reasons and closer to home)
Anthony DeAngelo
22nd Overall

I'd do this deal, gives them a guy who can put up some points now (Strome), a center for the future (Chytil), a puck moving defenseman (DeAngelo), a solid forward prospect (Kravtsov), and a B level defense prospect (Robertson).

Kreider-Zibanejad-Buchnevich
Panarin-Eichel-Kakko
Lafreniere-Howden-Gauthier
DiGiuseppe-Barron-UFA

Smith-Trouba
Lindgren-Fox
Hajek-McCabe

Shesterkin
Georgiev

ugh. like. this is fair I guess but from a principle point of view this deal would really upset me, ngl

 

[mas0764]

I think at least one, maybe two of the on the table list would have to be included. Is that Chytil, Kravtsov and 22 as a foundation? Maybe, we'll see.

The rumored challenge for Buffalo is that they "need" someone who can come in right away and put up points for them.

Then keep Kravtsov.

ADA, Buch, Chytil, and 22 for Eichel.

We re-sign Fast; deal Strome for a pick or picks.

Without regard to actual line construction, our depth chart becomes

Panarin - Zibanejad - Kakko
Kreider - Eichel - Fast
Lafreniere - Howden - Gauthier
Lemieux - Barron - DiGiuseppe

Lindgren - Fox
Hajek - Trouba
Reunanon- Smith

Kravtsov and Miller on the way mid season.

 

[Mikos87]

I wonder if BUF interested in drafting Holtz or Raymond.

 

[bleedblue94]

Ada chytil kratsov 22oa protected 2021 1st

 

[duhmetreE]

When does Trouba's NMC kick in? Isn't that Oct 7th? Wouldn't a signing bonus be paid on the same date?

or do I have my date wrong

 

[FireGerardGallant]

Jack Eichel
Jake McCabe

For

Filip Chytil
Vitali Kravtsov
Matthew Robertson
Ryan Strome (cap reasons and closer to home)
Anthony DeAngelo
22nd Overall

I'd do this deal, gives them a guy who can put up some points now (Strome), a center for the future (Chytil), a puck moving defenseman (DeAngelo), a solid forward prospect (Kravtsov), and a B level defense prospect (Robertson).

Kreider-Zibanejad-Buchnevich
Panarin-Eichel-Kakko
Lafreniere-Howden-Gauthier
DiGiuseppe-Barron-UFA

Smith-Trouba
Lindgren-Fox
Hajek-McCabe

Shesterkin
Georgiev

We cannot go into the year with Howden as the 3c, thats a recipe for disasters. If we do trade Chytil for Eichel we'd need to figure out some alternative.

 

[Blueblood9]

Im hoping a deal like ADA, one of Krav/Chytil, a prospect not named Lundvist/miller and the 22 get it done for Eichel.

so something like
ADA
Krav
Robertson
22 OA

For Eichel

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

We cannot go into the year with Howden as the 3c, thats a recipe for disasters. If we do trade Chytil for Eichel we'd need to figure out some alternative.

I agree although I'm skeptical on whether the coaching staff/management would think the same

I don't know if it would be their first choice, but it's clear the team is much higher on Howden than the fans haha

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

I always knew we'd never make it through the rebuild with a "100% homegrown" set of players but seeing a guy like Miller out there hurts a bit. Can certainly see why he'd be on the table but.. ouch.

Now, that being said, Eichel, Zib, Panarin, Kakko, Lafreniere, and Kreider all on the same team? That's some CHEL-level insanity right there.

Agreed.

And people should bear in mind, as @Edge clarified, that's the selection of pieces the Rangers said they'd be willing to move, not an actual proposal. So, if BUF says, "Okay, fine, we'll move him and Miller needs to be part of the package," then you're pulling back 2-3 of the other names.

This is a) why you build up such depth and b) always go BPA. If they move Miller, they still have Robertson, Reunanen, Jones, Hajek, and Rykov as prospects who range from good to outstanding.

(It would hurt to give up Miller, though.)

 

[TheGortonConspiracy]

This board is going to be very sad when Eichel does not get traded this year

 

[Kovalev27]

This board is going to be very sad when Eichel does not get traded this year

nahh I think everyone knows it’s a long shot still but the foundation for a potential deal is certainly there.

 

[bbny]

This board is going to be very sad when Eichel does not get traded this year

If anyone is disappointed that an Eichel trade doesn't go down, then that's on them. I don't think anyone really expects it though.

 

[Blueblood9]

So reading the through the thread is this gonna be either 1 big trade or multiple smaller trades

So its eichal or trade ADA Strome and other pieces in individual deals

 

[bleedblue94]

If you are suggesting that the leak to Herman was from a place that Eich may want to go, then yes. It's a classic negotiation tactic, but also alerts the market that things that are not public, may end up going public. In a situation such as this, the player has a lot of sway.

For the Rangers, it would be great to have a deal done tomorrow, but when you are dealing with something of this magnitude, hard deadlines the hardest when the player's actions dictate what they are.

Such an uncomfortable situation for a rookie GM to have to deal with this. I'm not suggesting that he's going to automatically screw it up or that teams will automatically be able to take advantage of them, just pointing out that this is a difficult situation for seasoned GM, let alone a rookie guy.

However, if Buffalo we're going to trade him this would probably the most perfect situation for an ownership group to facilitate a trade. A new GM with potentially a new vision for the team, or rookie GM that maybe didn't make the best trade in the world and can become a scapegoat. Either way ownership has the opportunity to kick this guy into the curb if whatever trade they make doesn't work out

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

This board is going to be very sad when Eichel does not get traded this year

More just fun to talk about. We've been surprised before though. Who the heck knows what will happen, all we know is that the next few days are going to be very exciting.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

nahh I think everyone knows it’s a long shot still but the foundation for a potential deal is certainly there.

Yeah, it's fun to speculate (and isn't that why we're all here?), but given @Edge's report, sounds like the other teams are more likely trading partners – right now, at least.

 

[Kovalev27]

I think we’ve all seen once something like this gets out there and it’s out there it’s best to make the move and get on with it. Dragging out becomes a distraction and in the end the trade gets made either way so best to handle it quickly and get the best value.

 

[AIexisLafreniereNYR]

Buff would want Kakko or Laf. I’d be surprised if they don’t ask. I wouldn’t do it if that’s the case. They don’t need to make a trade IMO. If his contract was up then I can see a lesser deal happen

 

[NYSPORTS]

Exciting times and a lot of speculation

Hoping fans keep their heads though as the roster will likely be less experienced than last season. It won’t be the coach’s fault and no these kids aren‘t busts.

J.D. said we aren’t even close so temper the expectations and enjoy the bumpy ride. Roster will likely have Laf, Miller, Barron, Krazkov in their rookie seasons with others still finding their way.