Speculation: Roster Building Thread LXIII - As the bell tolls, who will stay who will go?

[Edge]

Thanks so much Edge. You're usually pretty grounded and can read situations accurately, do you put any odds on a deal materializing with buffalo for JE? Usually teams try to avoid trading a star so close in proximity, but it's just seems NYR has the assets, cap space, and motivation to push through that.

I think the Rangers would do a deal. I think Buffalo is less enthusiastic right now without Lafreniere or Kakko being on the table.

 

[rangers1314]

The Rangers have engaged with no less than 6 teams in the last 48 hours. At least 3 of them were serious conversations.

This list includes, but is not limited to Calgary, San Jose, Edmonton and Chicago. The latter two were draft-related conversations.

Edmonton & Chicago talks centered around AG?

 

[Mikos87]

What!?!?! K'Andre!?!?! Krav!!?!? Chytil!?!? It better be a damn good deal for us

The "Table" is BUF's purported ask. I would give them 5 NHL level pieces, and a couple of futures. Say somewhere in the vicinity of 6-8 pieces all together. Not necessarily the pieces in your post, but I would give BUF 5 NHL level pieces.

 

[Leetch3]

What!?!?! K'Andre!?!?! Krav!!?!? Chytil!?!? It better be a damn good deal for us

all on the table doesn't mean they would all be included...and no doubt that is in the context of an eichel deal. he isn't going to come free. if you want to make kakko, lafreniere, fox and shesterkin off the limits than basically everyone else has to be possible or don't bother calling. the question is how many would need to be involved...but individually they each would be.

 

[Edge]

this is 100% my belief and I’m glad you are confirming it. Of course buffalo is going to start by asking for those guys otherwise they wouldn’t be doing their jobs. But those guys are untouchable. The next later of avail prospects/young players are as good or better than anything anyone else has to offer. We have plenty of pieces including #22 this year and our 2021 first as well to play with.

I think at least one, maybe two of the on the table list would have to be included. Is that Chytil, Kravtsov and 22 as a foundation? Maybe, we'll see.

The rumored challenge for Buffalo is that they "need" someone who can come in right away and put up points for them.

 

[Gardner McKay]

IMO committing 4 years to the wrong guy cause he is available now and you are operating in win now mode like next season is the most important thing would be stupid too

Who said anything about committing four years to the wrong guy or operating in win now mode? There are going to be plenty of options available to the Rangers. Jack Eichel NOT being the choice doesn't make it that player the wrong guy. Especially if you take into account player cost.

If he can he had for a great deal now, then go for it. If he can be had for a great deal in 9 months, go for it. But you don't wait 9 months to hope things change.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

How the hell are we going to fit Eichel's salary here long-term?!?

 

[Rongomania]

Buffalo can take anyone not named Igor, Alexis or Kaapo.

Come onnnnnnnnn

 

[Edge]

How the hell are we going to fit Eichel's salary here long-term?!?

If ADA is a part of the trade, and Strome is moved, that's pretty much close to Eichel's salary (based on what they'd make in 2020/21) --- without tapping into the Staal savings.

 

[UnSandvich]

Buffalo can take anyone not named Igor, Alexis or Kaapo.

Come onnnnnnnnn

Or Fox/Zib/Bread

 

[Leetch3]

How the hell are we going to fit Eichel's salary here long-term?!?

the answer is that you don't re-sign mika in 2 years since his new deal will likely be for more than eichel makes. whether that is a smart move can be argued but IMO that is how the cap would work.

 

[bleedblue94]

I think at least one, maybe two of the on the table list would have to be included. Is that Chytil, Kravtsov and 22 as a foundation? Maybe, we'll see.

The rumored challenge for Buffalo is that they "need" someone who can come in right away and put up points for them.

Is it absurd to see a situation where the rangers trade from monahan and flip him along with some of those younger assets that you just mentioned? Moving Buch for monahan and then moving monahan ada and some of those young pieces you mentioned for JE? I know that's very NHL 21 ish, but it could be the type of thing that could satisfy a bunch of teams

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

1. I would be shocked if they let Strome go for nothing. So I don't see that as a likely outcome.

2. Rangers are very active right now with a few things cooking. Sit tight.

This might be the fastest post to 20+ likes I've ever seen.

 

[Rongomania]

The best part is, JG and his f*cking magic made it totally possible to get Eichel without gutting the future of this team.

We live in a special time where this is possible with zero negative repercussions.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

If we decide to trade Kandre were really going to need someone like Matthew Robertson to really exceed their expectations and become a top pairing Lhd.

 

[Edge]

Is it absurd to see a situation where the rangers trade from monahan and flip him along with some of those younger assets that you just mentioned? Moving Buch for monahan and then moving monahan ada and some of those young pieces you mentioned for JE? I know that's very NHL 21 ish, but it could be the type of thing that could satisfy a bunch of teams

Right now, I'd think you're looking at either/or scenarios. Not necessarily a chain reaction where one deal leads to assets that are included in another deal.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

San Jose must be for Georgiev

 

[bbny]

I think at least one, maybe two of the on the table list would have to be included. Is that Chytil, Kravtsov and 22 as a foundation? Maybe, we'll see.

The rumored challenge for Buffalo is that they "need" someone who can come in right away and put up points for them.

Good thing Strome is a 65 point center now

 

[Kovalev27]

I think at least one, maybe two of the on the table list would have to be included. Is that Chytil, Kravtsov and 22 as a foundation? Maybe, we'll see.

The rumored challenge for Buffalo is that they "need" someone who can come in right away and put up points for them.

Yah I’d have to imagine Kravtsov and/or Chytil (Not sure it’s both)being involved. To me though DeAngelo would be a big big piece for Buffalo to request. That’s a guy you can sell to the fan base as getting a top point producing 24 year old right shot pp qb. I also thought Strome could be involved here.

what if you get Strome DeAngelo Kravtsov/Chytil and number 22 or unprotected 2021

to me you have a very good return there short term and long term.

 

[rangers1314]

How on earth can Buffalo sell a JE trade to that fanbase that doesn't bring back Laf or KK.

I can't believe that this is actually a thing.

 

[Waivers]

The Rangers have engaged with no less than 6 teams in the last 48 hours. At least 3 of them were serious conversations.

This list includes, but is not limited to Calgary, San Jose, Edmonton and Chicago. The latter two were draft-related conversations.

Will the Oilers chicken out this year like they did last? Oilers wanted to keep their 8 OA from last year and draft a defenseman instead for Buchnevich. Now, perhaps Buchnevich for Oilers’ 14 OA is more comfortable for them. Rangers try for Holloway at that draft position.

 

[duhmetreE]

I see it in another light. Buffalo might 'overpay' to get Eichel help. I'll take that #8

Buch, Strome and Hajek/Reunanen/#22 for #8

 

[Gardner McKay]

I think the Rangers would do a deal. I think Buffalo is less enthusiastic right now without Lafreniere or Kakko being on the table.

I guess that is the thing... unless Eichel publicly asks for a trade, how do you sell a deal like that to your fanbase?

 

[bleedblue94]

It's amazing how much this board gains from our insiders. We're so lucky to have these guys here. Thank you

 

[Edge]

Yah I’d have to imagine Kravtsov and/or Chytil (Not sure it’s both)being involved. To me though DeAngelo would be a big big piece for Buffalo to request. That’s a guy you can sell to the fan base as getting a top point producing 24 year old right shot pp qb. I also thought Strome could be involved here.

what if you get Strome DeAngelo Kravtsov/Chytil and number 22 or unprotected 2021

to me you have a very good return there short term and long term.

If I had to guess, I could see Strome going seperately to grab a pick or a support player.