Speculation: Roster Building Thread LXIII - As the bell tolls, who will stay who will go?

[Kovalev27]

San Jose is tanking right? Like on what planet with all the good goalies avail does it make sense to go Dubnyk Jones

 

[NYR Viper]

wtf is an ITK

'In the Know'

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

wtf is an ITK

Clearly you’re not ITK if you’re asking

 

[Thirty One]

'In the Know'

Oh, I didn't know I was included in it.

 

[NYR Viper]

None of those players are better than Martínez. Believe a lot of those guys are righty too but could be wrong. Martínez at one year 4m is kind of a bargain.

I remain unconvinced that Smith isn't better than Martinez.

 

[TheBPA]

San Jose is tanking right? Like on what planet with all the good goalies avail does it make sense to go Dubnyk Jones

On zero of the planets.

On the bright side they did get a 5th round pick 3 drafts from now for their trouble.

 

[Thirty One]

San Jose is tanking right? Like on what planet with all the good goalies avail does it make sense to go Dubnyk Jones

**checks to see if they even own their own pick**

 

[BBKers]

wtf is an ITK

Internet Troll King

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I remain unconvinced that Smith isn't better than Martinez.

I don't think he is either.

Martinez isn't the same Martinez from 2014.

 

[Chytilmania]

We cannot go into the year with Howden as the 3c, thats a recipe for disasters. If we do trade Chytil for Eichel we'd need to figure out some alternative.

If we somehow get Eichel and Chytil is a part of the deal, plus deal Strome, we will be complaining all season long that we don't have a 3C and that's why we are losing.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

San Jose is tanking right? Like on what planet with all the good goalies avail does it make sense to go Dubnyk Jones

Unless they're living in a 2015 reality I don't know how they could expect that (plus most of their roster) to be anything other than a low end bubble team at best.

 

[NYR Viper]

 

[Savant]

All of them are.

Psysk is right sided and was moved to wing at some points this season. Forbot and Hutton has never been better and I think both were on the Kings when Martínez was too. Demelo is another righty.

Rangers need a lefty that can at least be able to fill in on a top pair. Martínez is the only one of those that has shown that.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

There was a kid on one of my bus routes whose name is Peter Hopper.

There was this guy when I was in grad school that would send us emails against sexual harassment and was appropriately named Dick Tucker.

 

[Blueblood9]

If we somehow get Eichel and Chytil is a part of the deal, plus deal Strome, we will be complaining all season long that we don't have a 3C and that's why we are losing.

I dont think he will be. a 1 2 3 of Zib Eichel and Chytil is deep for the next 2 yrs then trade/let Zib walk then move to a 123 of Eichel Chytil Barron

 

[Savant]

I remain unconvinced that Smith isn't better than Martinez.

Martínez and Theodore was one of the best pairings this playoffs.

 

[NYR Viper]

If we somehow get Eichel and Chytil is a part of the deal, plus deal Strome, we will be complaining all season long that we don't have a 3C and that's why we are losing.

I'll take that for a season. Finding a 3C is MUCH easier than finding another 1C at 23.

I think people (not you specifically) forget just how young Eichel is. He is a FULL YEAR YOUNGER than DeAngelo.

 

[NYR Viper]

Psysk is right sided and was moved to wing at some points this season. Forbot and Hutton has never been better and I think both were on the Kings when Martínez was too. Demelo is another righty.

Rangers need a lefty that can at least be able to fill in on a top pair. Martínez is the only one of those that has shown that.

I'll take McNabb if we are taking a Vegas d-man to help them. Hell, I'll take McNabb and Reaves

 

[bl02]

San Jose is tanking right? Like on what planet with all the good goalies avail does it make sense to go Dubnyk Jones

They are a mess. Ironically Ottawa destroyed them with the EK trade present and future.

 

[Trxjw]

I'll take that for a season. Finding a 3C is MUCH easier than finding another 1C at 23.

I think people (not you specifically) forget just how young Eichel is. He is a FULL YEAR YOUNGER than DeAngelo.

Something tells me there will be a handful of bargain-bin 3Cs on the market come Friday.

 

[Mikos87]

Yeah I don't think trading Eichel has to be this "rip the guts out and start over" sort of move. Get some upside in the trade and a couple players who can fill holes on your blue line and in your top-six. Pick off a guy like Schmaltz from Arizona on the cheap. You'll be lacking that elite talent up front but you could be a more balanced team.

Having "will they or won't they trade Eichel" being the headline after every Buffalo loss is a nightmare for a new GM.

More for ownership I think. Look they tried to build around stars, and you can do that when you are destination city. When you are not, said star cannot bring players to your Market. Five years later with Jack, the best players that they had are the ones that they had to trade for. That's what killed their depth.

They have a second shot at it with Dahlin. As I posted before, an Eichel trade erases all of the sins. Josh Allen wasn't a big name either, and he was no Kyler Murray to the Cardinals. But on BUF, he's a top talent that's leading his team.

If you are going to get say 5 players that can play and play well for you, and get more points than Eichel could produce alone, a better team defense, perhaps even goaltending. That's going to get you closer to having that team around Dahlin. All of the players that Dahlin came up with are a few years behind the ones that Eichel came up with, and if you have a team around them, then you have a collection of talent and youth that are going to be with your organization for a while.

 

[NYR Viper]

Martínez and Theodore was one of the best pairings this playoffs.

I am going out on a limb to say that was mainly Theordore's doing.

If you look at Martinez's possession metrics from the last few years, they're.....bad

Alec Martinez Stats | Hockey-Reference.com

 

[Savant]

I'll take McNabb if we are taking a Vegas d-man to help them. Hell, I'll take McNabb and Reaves

So would I honestly. But I’m taking Martínez too. People can’t separate 2014 from him and it’s effecting perception; same with Tyler Johnson, but in the other direction

 

[bl02]

He sucks.

and he is 34 and that team is very mediocre. Plus goalie market is totally saturated. Not shocked that is all he returned.

 

[Chytilmania]

You may have 2 top 5 centers the way Zib is developing, but I do understand K27s point. The idea is to win a championship and construct a well balanced team that is built for a playoff run, not just destroy the offensive record books. But hell, you may achieve both...

The Rangers 2nd PP unit would be better than most team's 1st PP unit. It wouldn't be fair.