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The worst team in years, 13-14 Buffalo, still won 26% of the time and got points 38% of the time. No team would become that bad with one injury.
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The worst team in years, 13-14 Buffalo, still won 26% of the time and got points 38% of the time. No team would become that bad with one injury.
What about Mackinnon and friends for 30 and better than sub par talent for the other 30?
It's not a one or the other thing. It's the same reason why I want to avoid stacking a top line here.
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Fine, go from .600 winning percentage to .35 winning percentage. The post I was replying to said they would lose most of their games. The principle of what I wrote still stands that a bad 2-3 week stretch of not getting points can kill a teams chances of making the playoffs in a league with so much parity.
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My point is losing one player does not turn them into what was far and away the worst team since the lockout. If they are a .600 team with MacKinnon they are still probably like a .530 team without him.
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Fair enough, my point was that losing 1 of their 3 best players will lead to them losing more games due to their lack of scoring depth and possibly lead to them not making the playoffs, even if said player was to return by then.
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Names is actually better at it. Fast was (is) able to hold his own for some stretches that don't last too long.
Says who? Because he has only played wing?
I would argue that he has only played wing for the past season or two because he has consistently been playing against older competition. Especially last season...
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I mostly agree, but I would’ve said the same thing about Hayes in August 2014, but the Rangers had different ideas.
When Kakko has played center he’s dominated there too I believe from @Amazing Kreiderman ‘s stats.
That kid can do it all.
Wouldn’t rule it out that’s for sure. The same reasons people like him on the wing are the same reasons people like Chytil on the wing. The ability to take the puck wide on defenders. Silly to me to take a playmaker out of the middle that can skate and just needs to work on defending a bit just for the sake of it.
I think he’ll eventually get some looks there too
That kid can do it all.
Wouldn’t rule it out that’s for sure. The same reasons people like him on the wing are the same reasons people like Chytil on the wing. The ability to take the puck wide on defenders. Silly to me to take a playmaker out of the middle that can skate and just needs to work on defending a bit just for the sake of it.
I think he’ll eventually get some looks there too
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Agree with pretty much all of it. If Buch goes for Kaprizov - the only plan adjustment I'd do is use flexibility to keep Kreider til TDL if the current return seems undervalued. Kaprizov would need to get paid too at some point that would be decisively more than what Buch could get now on a long term contract.
Nothing ground breaking, but more non committal Kreider talk.
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I hear ya and I don’t disagree, although I’ll say Hayes was a bit older when he signed with us, and was already playing in the NA style game. Kakko is younger, I wouldn’t want to confuse him and play him out of position as an 18 year old rookie.
The qualifying offers to Deangelo and Lemieux expire on Monday the 15th. The Rangers could force both players to accept their $874,125 qualifying offer. Both players will be arbitration eligible next summer with a one year contract this season. The QO’s for both players are two way offers. The Rangers make them one way contracts for that money. The Rangers could offer less after the 15th and still maintain the players rights. This is one of the very few times a team has any leverage over a player.
The Rangers are up against the salary cap and they need every penny this season. Both players can come back and make more money next summer when they are arbitration eligible. They will have more leverage next summer.
Lemieux should be happy to play for $875,000 one way this season. Deangelo is coming off a good/decent year. Getting him to play for $875K might be a problem for him. It might not be a bad thing for him to have a chip on his shoulder. The Rangers offer him one year at $1M. Have a good year and get $4M next summer.
They don’t have any leverage at all. They could hold out but they will only be hurting their careers.
The Rangers are up against the salary cap and they need every penny this season. Both players can come back and make more money next summer when they are arbitration eligible. They will have more leverage next summer.
Lemieux should be happy to play for $875,000 one way this season. Deangelo is coming off a good/decent year. Getting him to play for $875K might be a problem for him. It might not be a bad thing for him to have a chip on his shoulder. The Rangers offer him one year at $1M. Have a good year and get $4M next summer.
They don’t have any leverage at all. They could hold out but they will only be hurting their careers.
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Firstly, I mean no disrespect. I just feel the team last year struggled start to finish. Was one of the worst offensive teams in hockey and had the worst first line in the NHL when Fast was on it. I believe Fast being our only RW player on a team with little to no depth had something to do with it. He scored 8 goals last year in his prime years in the NHL. Any success he did have was directly correlated to Zib and Kreider working well together.
Out of every player on the Rangers roster currently. I cannot name one with a less offensive upside than Fast. Any player on the team right now would be a better 1st line option. Which to me means the player needs to possess vision and high end skill to eat 1st line min. contribute offensively and be consistent. Fast works hard, that's about it. Gym class hero. That's my 2cents.
It might have worked on a bad NHL team however our team just got substantially better everywhere regardless of what the haters say and they will hold themselves to a much higher standard this upcoming season.
interesting that out of all the dmen in the system he singled out k'andre who isn't even pro yet...
but biggest noteworthy thing to me was his comment about how every team in the league can use more centers but they really want to let chytil, andersson and howden play to see what they have.
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Namestnikov, Strome and Fast are made from the same blue collar material but each situation is unique probably only one will survive to be a Ranger on a longer basis (two at most).
Namestnikov is probably the best player of the group and most versatile but he's also the most expensive. If he puts any decent stats this season there will be team that would risk giving him his current $4m or even more. That's why he's probably the most likely to be moved.
Strome's development has been mishandled and seeing him mature and be in good situation here with the Rangers he might have the most room to finish off his development. He might overtake Namestnikov as a hockey player and he's already ahead of Fast.
Fast is like $0.7 on Namestnikov but he's much cheaper. He's also older and has been slowed down a bit by injuries and use. How much he could get as UFA to become cost prohibitive for the Rangers to keep? Second likeliest to be moved in this group.
Namestnikov is probably the best player of the group and most versatile but he's also the most expensive. If he puts any decent stats this season there will be team that would risk giving him his current $4m or even more. That's why he's probably the most likely to be moved.
Strome's development has been mishandled and seeing him mature and be in good situation here with the Rangers he might have the most room to finish off his development. He might overtake Namestnikov as a hockey player and he's already ahead of Fast.
Fast is like $0.7 on Namestnikov but he's much cheaper. He's also older and has been slowed down a bit by injuries and use. How much he could get as UFA to become cost prohibitive for the Rangers to keep? Second likeliest to be moved in this group.
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And he’s spot on
Yeah I've mentioned it before, there is no reason to freak out about the center position because the guy we're looking for may already be on the roster.
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This! He could've said something like "we would monitor the market, talk to other teams and see what's available" but there was absolutely none of that! (Re. Brassard talk)
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Fast was there because the line worked the best with him on it.
for a solid month, that line was good for a goal a game.
We still had Pavel Buchnevich last year, and Fast was better on the first line than he was. Is Fast more talented than Buch? No, but the line performed better with him on it. Tom Wilson plays on the first line for Washington, and he is a giant doofus, but it works. Its about having the right players, not necessarily the most talented ones.
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