Speculation: Roster Building Thread LVIII: At part 58, I am out of titles.

[kovazub94]

Fast was there because the line worked the best with him on it.

for a solid month, that line was good for a goal a game.

We still had Pavel Buchnevich last year, and Fast was better on the first line than he was. Is Fast more talented than Buch? No, but the line performed better with him on it. Tom Wilson plays on the first line for Washington, and he is a giant doofus, but it works. Its about having the right players, not necessarily the most talented ones.

This is not what some (most) of us are seeing. Fast was better when Buch was adjusting to Quinn’s requirements. When the Russian started to come around he was light years better than Fast (and the Swede’s success on the first line was shorter than one month which in itself is pretty short).

 

[wafflepadsave]

It sounds like he seriously thought about it at the draft

Yeah just don’t know if it was really that close like say buchnevich who was within an eyelash if moving.

 

[Gardner McKay]

Yeah I've mentioned it before, there is no reason to freak out about the center position because the guy we're looking for may already be on the roster.

Although others have twisted my words, this is exactly what I am saying. People worried about Strome being pegged as the 2C, Chytil may claim that spot and never give it back.

This is still a rebuilding year and the Rangers are trying to find out exactly what they have in their guys, namely their three C prospects/ youngsters.

 

[bobbop]

Fast is gone after this year. Useful player, but relatively easy to replace at a lower cost than what he will likely demand.

might be a good depth pickup for a contender at the deadline that doesn't want to pay top dollar for a rental

If the Rangers are not in playoff contention in a February, he will be available and he may be resigned afterwards.

I think you and many others here are underestimating the respect Fast has in the organization. There is an excellent chance he will be here in 2020-21 and beyond.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Although others have twisted my words, this is exactly what I am saying. People worried about Strome being pegged as the 2C, Chytil may claim that spot and never give it back.

This is still a rebuilding year and the Rangers are trying to find out exactly what they have in their guys, namely their three C prospects/ youngsters.

For sure.

And its not something that 1000000% needs to be filled immediately. If someone can't step up into that role, we have the ammunition to get that guy.

 

[Gardner McKay]

If the Rangers are not in playoff contention in a February, he will be available and he may be resigned afterwards.

I think you and many others here are underestimating the respect Fast has in the organization. There is an excellent chance he will be here in 2020-21 and beyond.

While I agree that Fast could be replaced for cheaper, every organization has "their guy". The guy that they could replace for slightly to much cheaper but they don't. Trading Fast at the TDL and then re-signing him would be a great idea IMO.

 

[bobbop]

And a general tip for everyone; probably time to stop making blanket assumptions that there will be another trade deadline sell off.

It’s more likely than not that the Rangers will be in striking distance of the playoffs in February. As I see it, Namestnikov is the one piece who may be available because I can’t see trading his contract now and I doubt if he will resign that early for less $.

 

[RGY]

And a general tip for everyone; probably time to stop making blanket assumptions that there will be another trade deadline sell off.

It’s more likely than not that the Rangers will be in striking distance of the playoffs in February. As I see it, Namestnikov is the one piece who may be available because I can’t see trading his contract now and I doubt if he will resign that early for less $.

I can see us trading Names now.
Buying out/Trading Smith
Making Lemmy and ADA accept their QOs
Sign a Vet Center on the cheap for flexibility (Boyle)

If the Rangers are indeed in striking distance of a playoff birth I do not see then selling. I dont see them necessarily buying either.

Ownership and Management will want the playoff birth with this young group.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

No one has said that there is 100% going to be a trade deadline sell off.

I think its been pretty much universally agreed upon that this is something that the front office wants to avoid.

Any major deals they make will come this summer or early in the season.

 

[Leetch3]

Namestnikov, Strome and Fast are make from the same blue collar material but each situation is unique probably only one will survive to be a Ranger on a longer basis (two at most).
Namestnikov is probably the best player of the group and most versatile but he's also the most expensive. If he puts any decent stats this season there will be team that would risk giving him his current $4m or even more. That's why he's probably the most likely to be moved.
Strome's development has been mishandled and seeing him mature and be in good situation here with the Rangers he might have the most room to finish off his development. He might overtake Namestnikov as a hockey player and he's already ahead of Fast.
Fast is like $0.7 on Namestnikov but he's much cheaper. He's also older and has been slowed down a bit by injuries and use. How much he could get as UFA to become cost prohibitive for the Rangers to keep? Second likeliest to be moved in this group.

I don't expect any of them to be year beyond the next 1-2 years. they are transition players

 

[Leetch3]

No one has said that there is 100% going to be a trade deadline sell off.

I think its been pretty much universally agreed upon that this is something that the front office wants to avoid.

Any major deals they make will come this summer or early in the season.

there isn't going to be another major sell off at the deadline cause the only player left to sell is kreider. they said that they want to avoid the distraction and deal with it this summer but not if the right deal isn't there

moving the lesser pending UFAs for draft picks at the deadline isn't what they wanted to avoid imo

 

[GAGLine]

interesting that out of all the dmen in the system he singled out k'andre who isn't even pro yet...

but biggest noteworthy thing to me was his comment about how every team in the league can use more centers but they really want to let chytil, andersson and howden play to see what they have.

What are you referring to?

 

[Zibanejbread]

What are you referring to?

GMJG was on NHLN last night. There's a video posted earlier in this thread.

 

[NYR Viper]

 

[Kocur Dill]

I don't expect any of them to be year beyond the next 1-2 years. they are transition players

Man, imagine what NJD's decade of success would have looked like if they traded Brylin, Pandolfo, and Danyko as soon as they became "redundant".

Not picking on you specifically, it's just that some players are keepers regardless. Fast is one for sure. IMO Names is another if he's willing to come down on his aav, next contract.

 

[GAGLine]

GMJG was on NHLN last night. There's a video posted earlier in this thread.

I probably have that person on ignore. Can I bother you to repost it?

 

[Leetch3]

Man, imagine what NJD's decade of success would have looked like if they traded Brylin, Pandolfo, and Danyko as soon as they became "redundant".

Not picking on you specifically, it's just that some players are keepers regardless. Fast is one for sure. IMO Names is another if he's willing to come down on his aav, next contract.

I must have missed the part where those devils teams had a salary cap to deal with

 

[Jackpot]

But the team isn't really competing this year so why not develop one of those other two guys and save the cap hit?

Does the team know they're not competing this year? Might want coach Quinn to let them know...

Edit: We have an unproven, young, yet extremely talented group of hockey players. Expecting them to fail is a bad way to go about this, I think we'll be sneaking into the dance... We have young, hungry talent that doesn't like losing on this team.... This is going to show...

 

[Kocur Dill]

I must have missed the part where those devils teams had a salary cap to deal with

Lou operated with an internal salary cap. Not exactly the same, but not without merit either.

 

[FIRE DRURY]

We can't have another sell-off. There's not much left to sell.

 

[Avery16]

I can see us trading Names now.
Buying out/Trading Smith
Making Lemmy and ADA accept their QOs
Sign a Vet Center on the cheap for flexibility (Boyle)

If the Rangers are indeed in striking distance of a playoff birth I do not see then selling. I dont see them necessarily buying either.

Ownership and Management will want the playoff birth with this young group.

It’s funny, I see no part of this whatsoever

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Agreed a sell off is unlikely which is why the Kreider situation is concerning. 7 yr deal or own rental would both be big mistakes.

 

[RGY]

It’s funny, I see no part of this whatsoever

Cant wait until it happens so we can all watch you crawl into your little hole.

#futureislanderfan

 

[kovazub94]

I don't expect any of them to be year beyond the next 1-2 years. they are transition players

Eh, not 100% guaranteed. You need utility players like that on the bottom lines who could step in and for a while hold a higher spot. For example, if there’s an injury to a top line player (god forbid) but your middle lines are working and you don’t want to break them up. You need a Fast-like option who could step in from the 4th line.

 

[Leetch3]

Eh, not 100% guaranteed. You need utility players like that on the bottom lines who could step in and for a while hold a higher spot. For example, if there’s an injury to a top line player but your middle lines are working and you don’t want to break them up. You need a Fast-like option who could step in from the 4th line.

you 100% need those type of players but names and strome already make too much $$ and fast will most likely make too much on his next contract that they will no longer make sense in those roles under the cap.

if you are paying big $$ to your top end guys then you need to develop those utility/role players to fill them with cheaper contracts.