Speculation: Roster Building Thread LVIII: At part 58, I am out of titles.

[NYR Viper]

Pascal Dupuis was an all-time great Ranger

Alex Bourret

 

[Avery16]

Hamrlik, McCabe, Kaberle?

Totally forgot about Kaberle!

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

I have this vague memory of us trading for, claiming on waivers, or signing some ancient defenseman around that same time who also was a shell of their former self. Any ideas?

Thank you. That was bugging me.

Hamrlik? Sandis Ozolinsh?

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Alex Bourret

That third rounder that we traded along with Dupuis for Bourret turned out to be Robert Bortuzzo

 

[BBKers]

Heard someone say today that a signed Buchnevich very well might be dealt. Buch plus a pick to Minnesota for the future rights to Kaprisov? Buyout Smith. Voila. Minnesota needs to do something with their roster and deadwood. Now

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Heard someone say today that a signed Buchnevich very well might be dealt. Buch plus a pick to Minnesota for the rights to Kaprisov. Buyout Smith. Voila.

Wait, is that proposal a legit rumor or just speculation? Kaprizov has major potential.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Heard someone say today that a signed Buchnevich very well might be dealt. Buch plus a pick to Minnesota for the future rights to Kaprisov? Buyout Smith. Voila. Minnesota needs to do something with their roster and deadwood. Now

Can we send them Staal too?

 

[Avery16]

That third rounder that we traded along with Dupuis for Bourret turned out to be Robert Bortuzzo

Would have been totally redundant in Rangers roster mythos with Klein and McQuaid

 

[BBKers]

Wait, is that proposal a legit rumor or just speculation? Kaprizov has major potential.

From what I understand is that getting a non roster big talent outside the NHL this season is very possible for Buch - especially if the price is low for Kreider now. I put the Kaprizov name in it. But there are other candidates. Interesting concept

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

From what I understand is that getting a non roster big talent outside the NHL this season is very possible for Buch - especially if the price is low for Kreider now. I put the Kaprizov name in it. But there are other candidates. Interesting concept

Awesome. Thanks.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I'll refuse to believe that the price for Kreider is THAT low until he starts the season here.

The demand will be there for him. Just from a long term optics stand point, one of him or Buchnevich have to go.

I tell Kreider that he can have 6.5x5 (plus no NMC/NTC bull shit) or I'm moving on.

 

[I Eat Crow]

From what I understand is that getting a non roster big talent outside the NHL this season is very possible for Buch - especially if the price is low for Kreider now. I put the Kaprizov name in it. But there are other candidates. Interesting concept

Maybe a deal to be had with Vegas and Gusev...

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

I'll refuse to believe that the price for Kreider is THAT low until he starts the season here.

The demand will be there for him. Just from a long term optics stand point, one of him or Buchnevich have to go.

I tell Kreider that he can have 6.5x5 (plus no NMC/NTC bull ****) or I'm moving on.

Heck, if he would somehow take 5 years, I'd gladly give him 7 mil

 

[kovazub94]

I'm only offering Brassard a try-out if Nedved isn't interested this year.

At least Nedved could mentor Chytil ( mentoring seems to be a thing). Whom Brassard could mentor?

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

Maybe a deal to be had with Vegas and Gusev...

How? The whole point is to get a talented young prospect and gain cap space. Trading for Gusev adds more cap than what buch was going to sign for. We would be in a worse position if we did that

 

[kovazub94]

From what I understand is that getting a non roster big talent outside the NHL this season is very possible for Buch - especially if the price is low for Kreider now. I put the Kaprizov name in it. But there are other candidates. Interesting concept

Love Buchnevich - so much so that Kaprizov is the only possibility I'd entertain in such trade (maybe Podkolzin but that is a pipe dream). No thank you to either Gusev or Tkachev.

 

[Thirty One]

At least Nedved could mentor Chytil ( mentoring seems to be a thing). Whom Brassard could mentor?

You don’t have to be mentored by someone from your country. I have mentored two Mexicans, a Zimbabwean and a Brit.

 

[Kocur Dill]

I have this vague memory of us trading for, claiming on waivers, or signing some ancient defenseman around that same time who also was a shell of their former self. Any ideas?

McCabe?

 

[haveandare]

From what I understand is that getting a non roster big talent outside the NHL this season is very possible for Buch - especially if the price is low for Kreider now. I put the Kaprizov name in it. But there are other candidates. Interesting concept

What do we get out of that exactly though? We’re short on nhl talent this year and we’d lose one to get a probabaly more expensive one back a year or more from now?

 

[eco's bones]

Strome, Names, and Howden are only "not good enough" if you are expecting us to be playoff competitors.

Not one NYR in a tie has said were are a playoff bound or bust team. Patience is part of the process, and the process is rebuilding this club from the ground up.

Gorton himself said the other day, they have no expectations of being a playoff contender even with the additions of Trouba and Panarin. That those signings were not intended for that purpose, only to continue the process of building the team and that, that plan was still in motion as far as they were concerned.

The view actually is the Rangers want to see continued progress and the team being more competitive whether or not the team makes the playoffs but if they do the team will be very pleased about it.

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

The Habs last year are a good example. Kind of choked in the playoff race, but most of the important pieces looked good and Kotkaniemi/Domi looked great. That's a good season for a young team!

I do think the opportunity cost of Panarin is that we can't "tank," or at least that if we're the third worst team in the league, it's probably because we didn't get the right development out of a lot of our guys. That kind of offsets whatever nice player we'd get out of the draft.

 

[NYR Viper]

I was listening to Greg and Steven’s latest podcast today and Steven brought up a point I hadn’t thought of but was intrigued by, Gusev has some control over his fate as he could very easily just return to the KHL if dealt somewhere he doesn’t want to play. How high are the Rangers on his list?

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Because I hate to break it to you but the Rangers management will not force these kids into roles they are not ready for. They need insurance. Strome is not enough.

Brassard happens to be a guy out there who would could sign a 1 year contract on the cheap and fill the role we are looking for. It has nothing to do with bringing back “castaways”. He is a center who has had a respectable career, he could have value at the trade deadline as well. We can sell him then if we see Howden/Lias/Chytil showing they can handle 2C-4C.

Brassard is hot garbage right now. I'd play Nieves instead of him it's that bad.

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

I was listening to Greg and Steven’s latest podcast today and Steven brought up a point I hadn’t thought of but was intrigued by, Gusev has some control over his fate as he could very easily just return to the KHL if dealt somewhere he doesn’t want to play. How high are the Rangers on his list?

You have to look at our cap problem. Trading for gusev puts us in an even worse position if we offer buch. Krieder saves us .5m aav.. and I'm sure they won't take names or strome for him. Can we stop with gusev. We cant get him or afford him. The idea again is to trade names, krieder, strome, and/or buch to get cap relief.

The rangers are looking to trade these guys for picks and prospects. Gusev wants 4m aav for 2 seasons..

 

[Kocur Dill]

I'll refuse to believe that the price for Kreider is THAT low until he starts the season here.

The demand will be there for him. Just from a long term optics stand point, one of him or Buchnevich have to go.

I tell Kreider that he can have 6.5x5 (plus no NMC/NTC bull ****) or I'm moving on.

Remember that summer Nash's value was somewhere between "pennies on the dollar" and "negative value" then we got a haul from Boston at the TDL?

Good times.