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Speculation: Roster Building Thread LVIII: At part 58, I am out of titles.

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Kovalev27 said:
Strome is a much better player than brassard at this point
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Who is debating that?

We could have both Strome and Brassard on the roster.

Who is to say Howden wouldnt be better served starting the year in the AHL? Or Lias?

Brassard would be cheap insurance with a low risk and very high reward for us. Whether that is having a productive year to increase his trade value you or help this team succeed OR is just average and we get a 3rd round pick for him at the deadline.
 
Leetch3 said:
that isn't the logic at all though...the logic is we are gonna be bad anyone, don't have cap space or any better options so why worry about something that really isn't important
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Logically, if we aren't expected to be good and we're stuck for cap space then something went terribly wrong.
 
Lose Strome and Namestnikov and we're pretty short on bottom 6 players. McKegg and Beleskey could always get called up though, so it isn't the end of the world. You need veteran players on the ice no matter what stage of a rebuild.
 
RGY said:
Why? Strome can play wing.

Namestnikov goes.

Rangers try to trade Smith with a pick attached.

If they can do that it clears, what, $8million this year?

So now youre at $16 million to work with to re-sign your RFAs and still have some breathing room to bring in a vet like Brassard **as long as the price is right.

And yes I absolutely want Brassard here than Boo Nieves.
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$16m doesn't leave you with much breathing room at all. He'd be redundant and unnecessary on the roster. There's really no point. I'm more against it from a roster point of view than a Cap one.
 
If there was anyway to swing Anisimov from Chicago for a similar exchange I’d do it. There is your relatively cheap 2C.
 
Strome and Namestnikov could potentially be dealt.

Look- we dont need a 2c, either to be signed or traded for. If none of Chytil, Andersson, or Howden are capable of doing that by years end we can re-evaluate. But right now we don't know enough to be plugging holes we might not even have with veterans on sizeable contracts.

Trade for Anisimov? Why? He doesn't do much more than Namestnikov or Strome could do in the same position, is 5 years older, and costs more with more term.

Panarin-Zibanejad-Kakko
Kreider-Chytil-Buchnevich
Andersson-Howden-Kravtsov
Lemieux-McKegg-Fast

Again, if none of Chytil Howden or Andersson pan out, we're in really big trouble to begin with.
 
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Rangerfans said:
If there was anyway to swing Anisimov from Chicago for a similar exchange I’d do it. There is your relatively cheap 2C.
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Why does everyone want our castaways back? We traded all these guys at the right time imo. Strome, Howden, Anderson,and maybe even Kravtsov are all options for center on this team without taking on Anisimov who imo is a 3rd line center on a decent team. Morgan Barron could be our 2c of the future, there is no need to rush things.
 
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Rangerfans said:
If there was anyway to swing Anisimov from Chicago for a similar exchange I’d do it. There is your relatively cheap 2C.
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Anisimov makes $4.5 this year and next. 31 years old.

Why him over Brassard for a 1 year deal at possibly $1.5 million aav?

You want a cheap vet to fill the 3C role. And if say Chytil struggles in the 2C slot then that vet can slide up and spell Chytil or buy time if one of the other young players are not earning that time.
 
RGY said:
Anisimov makes $4.5 this year and next. 31 years old.

Why him over Brassard for a 1 year deal at possibly $1.5 million aav?

You want a cheap vet to fill the 3C role. And if say Chytil struggles in the 2C slot then that vet can slide up and spell Chytil or buy time if one of the other young players are not earning that time.
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Why either of them?..Strome was better than both of them once he was elevated in the lineup. The castaways need to stay...casted away.
 
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KreiderBomb said:
Why either of them?..Strome was better than both of them once he was elevated in the lineup. The castaways need to stay...casted away.
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Because I hate to break it to you but the Rangers management will not force these kids into roles they are not ready for. They need insurance. Strome is not enough.

Brassard happens to be a guy out there who would could sign a 1 year contract on the cheap and fill the role we are looking for. It has nothing to do with bringing back “castaways”. He is a center who has had a respectable career, he could have value at the trade deadline as well. We can sell him then if we see Howden/Lias/Chytil showing they can handle 2C-4C.
 
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RGY said:
Anisimov makes $4.5 this year and next. 31 years old.

Why him over Brassard for a 1 year deal at possibly $1.5 million aav?

You want a cheap vet to fill the 3C role. And if say Chytil struggles in the 2C slot then that vet can slide up and spell Chytil or buy time if one of the other young players are not earning that time.
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3C is arguably the roster spot that we least need to bring anyone in for.
 
Avery16 said:
There isn't a single objectively good reason to have Brassard on this roster.
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He'd be cheaper than strome (we need cap space) and has higher upside if you believe he can revert back to what he was as recently as the season before last?

I don't think its going to happen. Columbus or someone will give him that 2nd year and that will be the end of it all, but there are valid reasons to bring him in.
 
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People talk about brassard as if he's just had 1 bad year..it's like 3 years of some degree of crappiness.

I just don't see the need to add an extra body to play center to protect the kids.

Right now you've got 3 veterans who can play center....
Zibanejad, namestnikov, and strome

You've got 4 kids who can play center...
Andersson, chytil, howden and nieves

And you've got another 2 kids who have at least some degree of familiarity with the position...
Kakko and kravtsov

We really feel the need to bring in a washed up center for that?

If he wants a camp invite, I'm fine with that, but I just don't see the need whatsoever in bringing in brassard, Boyle, or anyone else.

The only caveat there is if we can pull off a trade for someone like nylander or something.
 
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ZuccsFluffierFluffer said:
He'd be cheaper than strome (we need cap space) and has higher upside if you believe he can revert back to what he was as recently as the season before last?

I don't think its going to happen. Columbus or someone will give him that 2nd year and that will be the end of it all, but there are valid reasons to bring him in.
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I really, really do not believe that. I also don't believe he is interested in signing for a number than is meaningfully less than Strome. He may also want term.
 
Inferno said:
People talk about brassard as if he's just had 1 bad year..it's like 3 years of some degree of crappiness.

I just don't see the need to add an extra body to play center to protect the kids.

Right now you've got 3 veterans who can play center....
Zibanejad, namestnikov, and strome

You've got 4 kids who can play center...
Andersson, chytil, howden and nieves

And you've got another 2 kids who have at least some degree of familiarity with the position...
Kakko and kravtsov

We really feel the need to bring in a washed up center for that?

If he wants a camp invite, I'm fine with that, but I just don't see the need whatsoever in bringing in brassard, Boyle, or anyone else.

The only caveat there is if we can pull off a trade for someone like nylander or something.
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I'm only offering Brassard a try-out if Nedved isn't interested this year.
 
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