Speculation: Roster Building Thread LIV: Free Agency Hasn't Even Started

[GAGLine]

Ya if we’re comparing Panarin to anyone, it’s Gaborik. And Gaborik was a great signing even WITH his injury history. Panarin is basically Gaborik with no injuries.

Gaborik signed a 5 year deal and was traded before he finished it. If Panarin is willing to sign for 5 years, I'm game.

 

[FIRE DRURY]

I'd be floored if Kakko and Kravstov don't start the season in NY, especially the former.

I wouldn't. If they do start there, I bet it won't be for long. I obviously want to see them here but it wouldn't be the end of the world for me.

 

[Tawnos]

Here's one other thing about how close this will be if they sign Panarin... we're likely going to have to defer bonus cap hits until 20-21, which it feels pretty likely we'll have at least one guy hit some bonuses this year.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Here's one other thing about how close this will be if they sign Panarin... we're likely going to have to defer bonus cap hits until 20-21, which it feels pretty likely we'll have at least one guy hit some bonuses this year.

Even with Panarin they would have plenty of cap room next season so that's not a huge concern. If those guys hit on the bonuses we should be celebrating.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Pure speculation because I don’t know the source but supposedly the offer from the Rangers is 11.25M per for 7 years. If that’s the case(speculation) I’ll say that does hurt but it’s also about right.

 

[RGY]

Seems pretty adamant that Panarin is coming here despite everything else point to the contrary.

I saw one tweet claiming Panarin isnt taking anymore meetings

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Pure speculation because I don’t know the source but supposedly the offer from the Rangers is 11.25M per for 7 years. If that’s the case(speculation) I’ll say that does hurt but it’s also about right.

Brooks speculated that they'd come in between 11-11.25.

I expect the Isles to come in at a million to 1.75 above that.

 

[duhmetreE]

Can a team hemorrhaging money, pay Panarin $15M in bonuses for the first few years? Now what will Bob want? They could theoretically be paying $25-30M in bonuses...

I have a hard time seeing that happen

 

[Off Sides]

Gaborik signed a 5 year deal and was traded before he finished it. If Panarin is willing to sign for 5 years, I'm game.

Me too, at the same percentage of cap even.

 

[duhmetreE]

I saw one tweet claiming Panarin isnt taking anymore meetings

Where? Who has he met with besides FLA and NY?

 

[Tawnos]

Even with Panarin they would have plenty of cap room next season so that's not a huge concern. If those guys hit on the bonuses we should be celebrating.

They might. The reduction in the Girardi buyout will help. $2.5m. But to afford Panarin, a lot of what they'd have coming off would already be gone (Kreider, Namestnikov, Vesey).... Strome's contract does expire, as well as Fast... but replacing Fast with an ELC, for example, doesn't even save $1m. I think we'd be in for another tight cap year.

I mean, it's fine... just something to think about.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Where? Who has he met with besides FLA and NY?

I think thought he was only meeting with the Rangers, Islanders and Panthers.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Where? Who has he met with besides FLA and NY?

Thats it outside of rumors that he may have met with Colorado.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Seravalli thinks the Rangers are the frontrunners for Panarin

 

[KingWantsCup]

I can only imagine that the Rangers have made it abundantly clear to Panarin that his marketability and opportunity for sponsorship dollars are significantly higher in NYC. Whether that would close the gap on net pay he’d otherwise with Florida is unknown. All things considered, the lure of NYC plus our young heavily Russian core will likely also need to weigh heavy for him to ultimately choose the Rangers.

 

[duhmetreE]

Gaborik signed a 5 year deal and was traded before he finished it. If Panarin is willing to sign for 5 years, I'm game.

Didn't Gaborik/5 years happen because of his injury history? Not comparable

Also, Panarin is a better player than Gaborik.. In every way minus straight line speed.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Gaborik signed for 5 years because of his injury history.

Also, Panarin is a better player than Gaborik.. In every way minus straight line speed.

Gaborik was a better goal scorer than Panarin pretty easily

 

[DutchShamrock]

@DutchShamrock

I hope to god we do have similar problems as Toronto

That means we have too many elite players.

That's not a bad thing.

This is cavalier. Letting Bozak, JVR and Gardiner isn't a bad thing? Giving away a 1st to get rid of Marleau isn't a bad thing? Failing to fix a single roster problem in 2 years, resulting in a pair first round exits isn't a bad thing?

Look, it's not that Panarin=losing. I do question the fans' motivation. We are actively trying to shed multiple wings. We need a top 6 center and a #1 left d. Crickets there. We can be patient on those fronts. We have two potential top wings now. We are shopping a top line wing right now. I want to build a great team instead of collecting great players without a thought of roster construction or the future.

 

[duhmetreE]

same guy also followed up with this...



Hopefully both are true... Now give Zucc his 5th year

 

[Ghost of jas]

Gaborik was a better goal scorer than Panarin pretty easily

Three-time 40 goal scorer, right? And Gaborik signing made sense as this team had no one in the pipeline that projected to have elite skill. The Rangers now have Kakko, Kravtsov, Chytil and even Buchnevich as players who are more skilled than what was in the system at the time of the Gaborik signing.

 

[FIRE DRURY]

Now give Zucc his 5th year

Now this is something we can agree on.

 

[Ghost of jas]

This is cavalier. Letting Bozak, JVR and Gardiner isn't a bad thing? Giving away a 1st to get rid of Marleau isn't a bad thing? Failing to fix a single roster problem in 2 years, resulting in a pair first round exits isn't a bad thing?

Look, it's not that Panarin=losing. I do question the fans' motivation. We are actively trying to shed multiple wings. We need a top 6 center and a #1 left d. Crickets there. We can be patient on those fronts. We have two potential top wings now. We are shopping a top line wing right now. I want to build a great team instead of collecting great players without a thought of roster construction or the future.

Exactly. I feel like signing Panarin keeps the Rangers from completing the puzzle. Maybe, I’m wrong and they get the 1B center next year, and Gorton skillfully manages the cap. But, I fear getting 85 to 90% to the goal, only to Toronto/Winnipeg cap issues short circuit the process.

I’ve embraced this rebuild because I believed the Rangers didn’t just want a repeat of the last run, but, as @Edge described, wanted to dominate the next decade. Becoming Toronto or Winnipeg falls short of that goal.

 

[Ghost of jas]

same guy also followed up with this...



Hopefully both are true... Now give Zucc his 5th year

He made that post before the Rangers had even met with Panarin.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Can a team hemorrhaging money, pay Panarin $15M in bonuses for the first few years? Now what will Bob want? They could theoretically be paying $25-30M in bonuses...

I have a hard time seeing that happen

Florida Panthers gearing up to spend big on free-agent market - Sportsnet.ca everything that’s come out of Florida seems like the team and owner are very willing (and expecting) to spend a lot of money

 

[DanielBrassard]

He made that post before the Rangers had even met with Panarin.

Rangers met with him Wednesday. The post was from yesterday.