Speculation: Roster Building Thread LIV: Free Agency Hasn't Even Started

[SA16]

What's wrong with going to the casino? Seems like the right thing to do to me.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Panarin will be a Ranger ignore the public negotiating thru the media leaks. We all know how this ends.

All is well, right, Chip?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Galchenyuk is an average 2nd liner pending UFA making market value. Joseph is the prize. Kessel is legit a gamebreaker. Pens got like 75 cents on the dollar.

Pens got 75 cents on the dollar for a guy who got to pick his spot?

IF it were an open market thing and a situation where everyone was basically desperate to get rid of him I'd agree. The market for Kessel was limited, JR did well here despite that.

Also, I highly doubt Kessel is 90 point Kessel at any point during his stay in Arizona. That team is still not very talented.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Pens got 75 cents on the dollar for a guy who got to pick his spot?

IF it were an open market thing and a situation where everyone was basically desperate to get rid of him I'd agree. The market for Kessel was limited, JR did well here despite that.

Also, I highly doubt Kessel is 90 point Kessel at any point during his stay in Arizona. That team is still not very talented.

Kessel Stepan Keller looks like a line that could put up some points.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Kessel Stepan Keller looks like a line that could put up some points.

Did you see the season Stepan had last year?

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Kessel went from what was a perfect situation for him to going to a team where he is going to be relied on to be "the" guy.

I don't see this ending well.

Yup. “Hey Welcome Phil, we’re one of the lowest scoring teams in the league, so get out there and score all the goals for us”

 

[Machinehead]

I think the trade is fine.

Some people call Kessel a gamebreaker and others call him a cap dump. The truth is somewhere in the middle.

 

[effen]

IF it were an open market thing and a situation where everyone was basically desperate to get rid of him I'd agree. The market for Kessel was limited, JR did well here despite that.

I'm not trying to be combative but I can't think of a situation where one GM really put the screws to another GM in a spot like this. It just kinda doesn't happen afaik.

I'd also imagine significant salary in going the other way to PIT in the form of Galchenyuk was a condition of the trade on Arizona's end, not Pittsburgh's. They're probably okay taking a flier but I think if they coulda subbed another piece for Chucky they would have.

 

[Zibanejbread]

I'd bet almost all of my money that Kessel doesn't hit 90 points in AZ. Getting to 75 would be close.

 

[effen]

Kessel Stepan Keller looks like a line that could put up some points.

That group is going to get annihilated on the boards in any tight checking/obstruction filled game. Someone needs to be replaced by a beefier customer in that group to work.

Reminds me of Nash-Richards-Gaborik in that way. No one to do any dirty work.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I'm not trying to be combative but I can't think of a situation where one GM really put the screws to another GM in a spot like this. It just kinda doesn't happen afaik.

I'd also imagine significant salary in going the other way to PIT in the form of Galchenyuk was a condition of the trade on Arizona's end, not Pittsburgh's. They're probably okay taking a flier but I think if they coulda subbed another piece for Chucky they would have.

Pittsburgh has been after him for like the last 3 years. As far as realistic returns go, there is little doubt thats who they were asking for.

 

[effen]

Pittsburgh has been after him for like the last 3 years. As far as realistic returns go, there is little doubt thats who they were asking for.

Really. Weird. God knows why.

 

[NYR94]

It's a good return for PIT. Whether he plays on a line with Crosby or Malkin, he'll be playing with the best center he's every played with. Kessel should help the Arizona power play which was weak last year.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

POJ in the Kessel deal? That's steep for Arizona. They were really high on him.

Ya, that’s a great piece for Pitt. They did well here IMO, I don’t know what people were expecting them to get for Kessel.

 

[Machinehead]

Like I said, I think Kessel has value, but can we please stop with the meme that Chayka is a stats nerd now?

 

[Thirty One]

I think the trade is fine.

Some people call Kessel a gamebreaker and others call him a cap dump. The truth is somewhere in the middle.

By the standard of this board, all four pieces in this deal are cap dumps.

 

[Machinehead]

By the standard of this board, all four pieces in this deal are cap dumps.

This is true

 

[I Eat Crow]

That group is going to get annihilated on the boards in any tight checking/obstruction filled game. Someone needs to be replaced by a beefier customer in that group to work.

Reminds me of Nash-Richards-Gaborik in that way. No one to do any dirty work.

And this is why I think a Kreider trade to Arizona is still a possibility.

I'll take Dvorak and their 2020 1st, please

 

[NYR Viper]

I’d take Dvorak back almost 1 for 1

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

Everyone thought MAF was like dead, and a lot of people liked those awful young defensemen Pouliot/Maatta. Sabres fans are really sour about Conor Sheary. I think it's hard to judge players on that team.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Panarin will be a Ranger ignore the public negotiating thru the media leaks. We all know how this ends.

I remain 60/40 against, but I actually think you're right, Kovy.

 

[SA16]

I don't like Dvorak at all in general let alone as the main piece for Kreider.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

So where can kreider land? Colorado if Zuccarello goes elsewhere? Is Anaheim adding with the Perry buyout? Hoffman will be on the market. I was in denial but this might go the distance.

Nashville w retention seems like an obvious fit for me.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

I think the trade is fine.

Some people call Kessel a gamebreaker and others call him a cap dump. The truth is somewhere in the middle.

Very good analysis, IMO.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

I don't like Dvorak at all in general let alone as the main piece for Kreider.

The player I like on ARI is Conor Garland.

Wat.

Serious question: why not?