Thirty One
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I feel like we shouldn't waste time guessing what Pierre McGuire means.
Speculation: Roster Building Thread LIV: Free Agency Hasn't Even Started
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JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
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Honestly I’d give up four first rounders for him and not bat an eye.
Zibanejad-Aho one two punch is god tier.
I don't know what you'd expect him to say to the media...
Anyway, the reason they traded for Saad had nothing to do with Panarin's 200 ft game. It was a combination of them wanting to bring back a popular teammate who Towes had success with (he had a rough season prior.) Wasn't a cost cutting thing (Panarin and Saad had identical cap hits the last 2 years) or player control thing either (Saad has all of 2 additional years.)
Note: I don't even want Panarin. Stop making me defend him
ok. i guess I thought this was a hockey board discussing possible Roster/free agent moves lol
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Just for debates sake...Aho for four first rounders and 9-9.5 million AAV or Panarin for 11.5 million AAV???
I mean if we're going to give up the 1st rounders I'd just go after Marner instead.
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$$$$$ Seems like Marner wants 11-12 plus category. But Marner is definitely more exciting electric player
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June 29th is a good day for James Nill to table Dallas's best offer at 5 years $5.75M or 4 years at $6.4M.
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1. I'd take Marner at 12.5 and 4 first rounders over either of those options
2. Panarin for no firsts
3. Aho for the first rounders
Thirty One
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I'll rephrase: I wouldn't spend any time guessing what Pierre McGuire's intentionally vague references mean. If that's your cup of tea, have at 'er.
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it's okay cause it's all just the way it should be
Panarin, we can still be really bad short-term with one of those guys. I worry about the penalty kill and the goaltending. We haven't had a legitimately bad goaltending season since what, the year Hank slumped and we used Talbot a lot?
You would think that should get it done if Zucc really likes Dallas. State tax free right? I can't see him getting a better offer than that even from a team like Colorado that has a ton of cap room.
This is gonna be huge for. Surprised it is not being talked about more. But I guess we really don't know what's going on in Zucc's mind.
I feel like vague is pretty much everyone's MO nowadays. Anyway, just thought it was interesting because he said it would not be Panarin if they made a big splash.
When you lay it out like that, the Panarin choice seems like a slam dunk.
But it would be Aho+4 1sts at 9-9.5 going into his age 22 season vs Panarin at 11.5 going into his age 28 season.
In that case, it'd come down to 2 things for me.
1. How confident are you that this group+ Aho is a contender sooner rather than later?
2. Can you back fill some of those 1st rounders through trades? Like say Zucc extends in Dallas and Kreider is traded in a package that involves another pick. Thats 2 1sts right there. If 2 of the young LHD end up stepping up this year or next perhaps it makes Skjei expendable for another package which involves a 1st in 2021. All of a sudden it doesn't look too bad.
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Yeah, I guess really my only point is I don’t trust Pierre McGuire. Sorry if it came off dickish.
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I don't know. Zucc is very loyal and compassionate but I don't see Dallas as his dream destination. I remember seeing pictures of him hiking and stuff and Colorado does seem to be more Norwegian and to his preference than Dallas. I could see him taking a very comparable deal to play in Colorado especially if the Avs give him 4 for more with their cap or even 5 if they're desperate. They lost out on Panarin, Duchene isn't going back, maybe they can get Pavelski? Colorado might be desperate. A lot of lateral moves shipping out Soderberg and adding Burakovsky today. They have the cap, want to spend it, and I think they'll get someone. I'm guessing Zuccarello will sign super late Monday or push it until mid week for all the big boys to sign first.
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I’ll take Panarin at $13m over offer sheeting any of Marner/Aho/Point and losing 4 1sts.
Wow you would give Marner 12.5 plus lose the 4 firsts? Marner is a wing if he was a center I would possibly do it. I guess we could hope that Chytil/Howden become a terrific second line center or get lucky with a Ryan O'Reilly type trade (terrific center making 6-7 million a year)
Yeah I know we've done well building up depth and talent in our prospect pool but losing our next 4 firsts including a very good draft (2020) in which we could draft top 10 is a little worrisome.
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He's played a lot of center before coming to the NHL. I think he still projects to be one. Remember he's been on the Leafs, for them, having him at center would just be a luxury. For us, it would be a necessity.
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