Speculation: Roster Building Thread L "Please Do Not Pester the Vetted Posters"

[Bluenote13]

Denino's has the best clam pie, AINEC.

 

[FIRE DRURY]

He is inconsistent

This is bull**** and completely untrue.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Brooks gets necessary hate when he starts pitching his ideas.

When he sticks to what he hears though, he is most definitely someone that clearly has sources and his feedback is appreciated.

True, but I don't think it's warranted either. He's allowed to give his opinion on things, he's earned that right, just like we all give our opinions on here. We don't have to necessarily agree with him though.

 

[LaffyTaffy]

This Stalemate is infuriating

 

[nyr2k2]

After what Kane got last season, and Hayes a few days ago.. I can't see CK taking less than 7X7.

Well, there was a zero percent chance Shattenkirk was taking his deal, and then he did. So you never know.

That said, I agree with you it's extremely unlikely. But if he indicated he'd be open to something like that, I'd gladly take it, is all.

 

[Edge]

Brooks gets necessary hate when he starts pitching his ideas.

When he sticks to what he hears though, he is most definitely someone that clearly has sources and his feedback is appreciated.

And I feel like what he's reporting has already had the blow softened on here.

I'd like to think everyone is really starting to get the concept of multiple balls in the air and is starting to figure out which teams we're talking to and why some of those deals may negate other deals.

And the more these things are out there, and not necessarily dependent on me to put them out there, the more I can speak to them.

But the TSN article and the Post piece pretty much mirror what I shared privately and why this stuff isn't getting pulled.

We're a day or two ahead of the news cycles.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

No he wasn't. Most of us know he does a good job. Only a handful cry about everything he says but the criers are the loudest.

It's the same this week as it was last. He's usually right on the target, but often wildly off on the transaction prices.

 

[FIRE DRURY]

True, but I don't think it's warranted either. He's allowed to give his opinion on things, he's earned that right, just like we all give our opinions on here. We don't have to necessarily agree with him though.

He's just so way off though with some of the things he says. You would expect someone to understand the market a little better with the amount of time he's been covering hockey.

 

[Avery16]

Buch is good, but he has yet to play a full season. Is streaky, and a 24 year old pending RFA w arbitration rights. His value might never be higher. He’s also a RW when we have Kravstov and likely Kakko coming in ready to play.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

This is bull**** and completely untrue.

Dude I love you(esp because you give me lot of Likes!) , but Kreider is one of the most inconsistent players this team has had. When he is ON he is a dominate force, unfortunately he isn't on much and goes to sleep for games at a time.

 

[nyr2k2]

I'm not gonna go on about Kreider anymore. My point was, and remains, that I'm not eager to rush him out the door. Seems like 90% of people here really want to get rid of him for a pick. If he took a sweetheart deal, I'd rather have four more years of Kreider than what I think he'd fetch in draft pick compensation.

 

[NernieBichols]

Disagree, market dynamics did not consummate their strategy to sign JT and then to pay AM an inflated number without getting the max term. This is a different situation if the AM contract was 8 years...

No market dynamics is why AM would only sign max 5 years. They say he wanted a 3 year deal.

I’m saying market dynamics forced him to sign AM to the 5 year deal he wanted. Nothing to do with Tavares

 

[GAGLine]

True, but I don't think it's warranted either. He's allowed to give his opinion on things, he's earned that right, just like we all give our opinions on here. We don't have to necessarily agree with him though.

As I've said before, his problem is that he's isn't good at making a distinction between the two. Most of the time, we can't tell which stuff he has heard from his sources and which stuff is merely his speculation. He presents it all as though it's true and leaves us trying to read between the lines.

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

Well, there was a zero percent chance Shattenkirk was taking his deal, and then he did. So you never know.

That said, I agree with you it's extremely unlikely. But if he indicated he'd be open to something like that, I'd gladly take it, is all.

If there's a specific player they want and you need to trade Kreider to get him, fine. If his demands on a new deal are stupid and you trade him, fine. But if you're trading him for like the 16th pick and a prospect who may bring what he brings one day, or because he's 28, that's a mistake in my opinion. He scored 28 goals on an awful team last year. I get the sense that a lot of people expected way too much of him when he was drafted. He was never going to score 40 goals in this league. But that doesn't mean he's not a legit top line LW.

 

[FIRE DRURY]

Dude I love you(esp because you give me lot of Likes! Which I will repay you once I can start handing them out again..damn warnings lol) , but Kreider is one of the most inconsistent players this team has had. When he is ON he is a dominate force, unfortunately he isn't on much and goes to sleep for games at a time.

Nonsense.

The only reason why he's inconsistent is because three different coaches have clearly failed to find the right synergy.

 

[Irishguy42]

At least none of you folks are the slugs I see at 2am most nights in Penn Station who point out drunkenly to their friends "ROSE'S IS THE BEST PIZZA IN NYC"

 

[nyr2k2]

If there's a specific player they want and you need to trade Kreider to get him, fine. If his demands on a new deal are stupid and you trade him, fine. But if you're trading him for like the 16th pick and a prospect who may bring what he brings one day, or because he's 28, that's a mistake in my opinion. He scored 28 goals on an awful team last year. I get the sense that a lot of people expected way too much of him when he was drafted. He was never going to score 40 goals in this league. But that doesn't mean he's not a legit top line LW.

Yeah, this generally sums it up for me. Well said.

 

[Thirty One]

I wonder if they asked Boo to give up #24 for Kakko and he got mad and asked for a trade, so the Rangers figured they might as well move Kreider too.

 

[Irishguy42]

I wonder if they asked Boo to give up #24 for Kakko and he got mad and asked for a trade, so the Rangers figured they might as well move Kreider too.

Package deal.

 

[NernieBichols]

And I feel like what he's reporting has already had the blow softened on here.

I'd like to think everyone is really starting to get the concept of multiple balls in the air and is starting to figure out which teams we're talking to and why some of those deals may negate other deals.

And the more these things are out there, and noy necessarily dependent on me to put them out there, the more I can speak to them.

But the TSN article and the Post piece pretty much mirror what I shared privately and why this stuff isn't getting pulled.

We're a day or two ahead of the news cycles.

Thanks to a few of you guys

 

[Yankeekid07]

At least none of you folks are the slugs I see at 2am most nights in Penn Station who point out drunkenly to their friends "ROSE'S IS THE BEST PIZZA IN NYC"

Suprema all day!

 

[bl02]

I'm not gonna go on about Kreider anymore. My point was, and remains, that I'm not eager to rush him out the door. Seems like 90% of people here really want to get rid of him for a pick. If he took a sweetheart deal, I'd rather have four more years of Kreider than what I think he'd fetch in draft pick compensation.

I agree...Initially it seemed we would be ok with lets say Edmonton's pick or Buffalo's pick...Then it seemed ok for Arizona's pick or Colorado's pick. What's next Carolina's pick at 28 will be ok?
I honestly put the cutoff at Arizona's pick at 14. If we trade him for a 2020 first rounder then hopefully it will be to a team that most likely will miss playoffs.

 

[Kovalev27]

If the reason to trade Kreider is to get Cozens I get it. But to trade him for a pick in the teens does nothing for me.

If Kreider needs 7 or 8 years then I also get why they’d move on but 6 to 7 mil doesn’t scare me for a top line forward with size and speed who’s one of the best net front pp guys in the game.

The key is can they get him to sign a 4 or 5 year even extension? If not I understand the move

 

[Thirty One]

If the reason to trade Kreider is to get Cozens I get it. But to trade him for a pick in the teens does nothing for me.

If Kreider needs 7 or 8 years then I also get why they’d move on but 6 to $ mil doesn’t scare me for a top line forward with size and speed who’s one of the best net front pp guys in the game.

The key is can they get him to sign a 4 or 5 year even extension? If not I understand the move

4-5 years is the range I would consider for Kreider, but I think it's very unlikely he would.

 

[DutchShamrock]