Speculation: Roster Building Thread L "Please Do Not Pester the Vetted Posters"

[Paulie Walnutz]

Who says you can’t be a New Yorker?

That style is just way more commonly referred to as Sicilian in this area.

Neapolitan and Sicilian definitely are not the same. Not even close.

 

[ecemleafs]

Seems like Marner is being a ****ing dick.

That's what happens when u overpay Matthews on a 5 year deal and marner outscored him last year and shown that he can play 82 games a year. Matthews contract was horrendous from a leafs POV. Got mcdavid money without giving the leafs the 3 extra UFA years.

 

[bleedblue94]

Marner wants the Matthews contract that takes him right into UFA

Not sure what the Leafs were expecting, they set the precedent with Matthews contract.

BINGO

Dubas has made a complete mess of this with that precedent.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

This is a picture of the most authentic Neopolitan pizza in NYC, in my opinion.. please tell me how it is in any way remotely similar to Sicilian?

I once was flamed for saying pizza in New York is not real pizza

 

[NernieBichols]

I’m seeing the big picture regarding buchnevich

And the trade value, depth, future depth, contract terms, other teams needs

Does that really mean though if they trade buchnevich they are gonna resign Kreider as opposed to trade him?

 

[Fireonk]

I’m seeing the big picture regarding buchnevich

And the trade value, depth, future depth, contract terms, other teams needs

Does that really mean though if they trade buchnevich they are gonna resign Kreider as opposed to trade him?

I'd imagine that would somewhat depend on the return. Are we targeting an NHL ready player or a draft pick etc.

 

[Edge]

I love how there's all these conversations about contracts and trades, and then this weird chain of pizza debates sprinkled throughout.

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

Marner wants the Matthews contract that takes him right into UFA

Not sure what the Leafs were expecting, they set the precedent with Matthews contract.

They're willing to pay the kid 88 million dollars to play hockey in his hometown. On par with what they gave Matthews and Tavares. I generally side with players as well but this seems like kind of a dick move from the Marner camp.

 

[Yankeekid07]

I love how there's all these conversations about contracts and trades, and then this weird chain of pizza debates sprinkled throughout.

We can all argue trades and contracts all day...but we can all agree on pizza.

 

[duhmetreE]

Ice Cream Pizza? doesn't sound good

 

[Don Chytil]

I once was flamed for saying pizza in New York is not real pizza

Well, yes you should 100% be flamed for that You can find any kind of pizza in NY, so just curious what would be real pizza to you?

 

[Matt4776]

We can all argue trades and contracts all day...but we can all agree on pizza.

Clearly not.

 

[Matt4776]

Well, yes you should 100% be flamed for that You can find any kind of pizza in NY, so just curious what would be real pizza to you?

Everyone knows that the Dutch are the supreme authority on all things Pizza.

 

[Yankeekid07]

Clearly not.

We can argue about SPECIFIC pizza...but we all love it.

Just like the Rangers...we all love them, but can argue about the roster.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

They're willing to pay the kid 88 million dollars to play hockey in his hometown. On par with what they gave Matthews and Tavares. I generally side with players as well but this seems like kind of a dick move from the Marner camp.

He wants to take a shorter deal to get paid again in 5 years

He’s on par with Matthews, a top 5 winger in the game

Offer him the same contract as Matthews, it’s less money for them

If they can’t win in the next 5 years, they won’t win ever with that group

 

[Bluenote13]

I love how there's all these conversations about contracts and trades, and then this weird chain of pizza debates sprinkled throughout.

This is the weirdest draft week of all time around here.

Noticed over the years how whenever the collective conscious of this board gets nervous the talk automatically goes to food. Comfort zones.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Uncle Larry just posted a new article. Sounds like Kreider is gone: "And, with The Post learning that Gorton and the winger’s rep, Matt Keator, had not yet had a substantive conversation about numbers at least as of Wednesday night, the feeling increasingly is that The. Rangers. Will. Trade. Chris."

"The Blueshirts, though, have no plan to extend a Group II offer sheet to Brayden Point, Mitch Marner or Matthew Tkachuk, all of whom might be gettable in exchange for the compensation of four first-rounders, but only at certifiably insane prices."

"But Kreider’s trade value might well be compromised by his contract status. The Rangers clearly will get their best return from a team that is prepared to extend Kreider as of July 1. This is a reverse Jacob Trouba. It’s very unlikely Detroit would be willing to trade the sixth-overall pick for Kreider, who has played the last couple of years for Red Wings coach Jeff Blashill in the World Championships, but it’s worth an ask. Perhaps Buffalo, looking to augment its kids, would put the seventh-overall in play. Maybe Florida at 13, Arizona at 14 or Colorado with its second pick at 16. But probably not merely for one year of service.
So there is work to be done between now and Friday night. Or maybe the Rangers will go after a 2020 first-rounder without that time pressure. But, as the Blueshirts move into Phase Two, more and more it feels as if Chris. Will. Not. Be. Part. Of. It."

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Eh, it's funny how we side with teams on this stuff for some reason. It's a very smart career move to sign a shorter contract that leaves open the possibility of signing another longer contract for a lot of money afterwards, rather than get all your prime years tied up in one contract. He's looking out for himself, all players should do that, but I think he's gonna find this idea a tough sell

I tend to side with players since it's a business and I always side with workers over corporations. I also tend to believe players should be more demanding. Fox, Vesey, Hayes, etc. I think more young kids should try and command where they play and how they live their lives. Sports is literally the only business where people still think loyalty is relevant. Meanwhile these days people hop from company to company every few years.

Anyways, I understand where Marner is coming from in this situation. But I really think he should take the guaranteed money. There are so many moving parts to the NHL and an individual's career success that I really don't believe in taking this kind of risk.

 

[Levitate]

BINGO

Dubas has made a complete mess of this with that precedent.

Wonder if some of that is a new young GM making some mistakes...

 

[Off Sides]

Marner wants the Matthews contract that takes him right into UFA

Not sure what the Leafs were expecting, they set the precedent with Matthews contract.

I kind of think that the Tavares contract, even though a UFA, partially led to the Matthew contract which is now leading to the Marner negotiations. Which is why I'd think it's possible if the Rangers go Panarin, the #2 pick may be looking at that contract once he is up for a new deal even as an RFA.

 

[Alluckks]

I once was flamed for saying pizza in New York is not real pizza

Because it is a terrible take...

 

[nyrage]

Uncle Larry chimes in on the potential end of CK's Rangers tenure

https://nypost.com/2019/06/20/this-feels-like-the-end-for-chris-kreider-and-the-rangers/

 

[JCProdigy]

I once was flamed for saying pizza in New York is not real pizza

Well when I think of expertise in pizza, my mind immediately goes to the Dutch...

I love how there's all these conversations about contracts and trades, and then this weird chain of pizza debates sprinkled throughout.

It's pure Tri-State area (NYC) goodness!

 

[NernieBichols]

I'd imagine that would somewhat depend on the return. Are we targeting an NHL ready player or a draft pick etc.

I was just thinking out loud. I don’t expect an answer for that

 

[EdJovanovski]

This is really cryptic. Can anyone think of a team with a player like Buch?

Maybe Andreas Athanasiou, also a later round pick with similar production to Buch. And Yzerman likes his Russians & former Rangers