Roster Building Thread IV (2022-23): Luck of the Irish

[GAGLine]

Any idea on how it looks with regard to bonus dollars going out for the team ? Are we close to hitting any of them ?

The only players who have performance bonuses are Laf, Miller, Schneider and Halak.

Halak's bonus is only 50k and is based on wins and save percentage. I don't know how many wins he needs or what save percentage, but the odds are probably good that he will earn it.

Miller and Schneider each have 400k in potential bonuses. I have no idea which bonus categories they have as part of their contracts, but these are the ones that they might hit:

(i) Ice time (aggregate and/or per Game). Player must be among top four (4) defensemen on the Club minimum 42 Regular Season Games played by Player and comparison group).

Miller is 2nd in both the aggregate and per game, so if he has this in his contract, he will earn it, but no idea how much of the 400k that would be. It can't be more than 212,500.

Schneider is 5th in both the aggregate and per game. He won't earn this bonus if he has it, as he isn't passing any of Fox, Lindgren, Miller or Trouba (assuming Lindgren isn't out for too long).

(ii) Goals: 10 Goal Minimum

Miller has 6 goals. Schneider has 5. Neither is on pace to hit 10.

(iii) Assists: 25 Assist Minimum

Miller has 24 assists. Schneider has 10 assists. It seems likely that Miller will hit this bonus, assuming he has it in his contract.

(iv) Points: 40 Point Minimum

Miller has 30 points and Schneider has 15. Miller is on pace to hit 40, but missing 3 games due to suspension might leave him short.

(v) Points Per Game: .49 Points Per Game Minimum (minimum 42 Regular Season Games played)

Miller is at exactly .5 per game after 60 games. If he hits the 40 point mark, he will hit this one too. If he plays all of the remaining games except the 3 he is suspended for, he needs to hit at least 39 points to trigger this bonus, assuming it is in his contract.

(vi) Plus-Minus Rating: Among top three (3) defensemen on the Club (minimum 42 Regular Season Games played by Player and comparison group).

Schneider is 3rd in Plus-Minus. Miller is 4th.

(vii) Blocked Shots: Among top two (2) defensemen on the Club (minimum 42 Regular Season Games played by Player and comparison group).

Schneider is 2nd in blocked shots and Miller is 5th.


Lafreniere has 2.85 mil in potential bonuses, but he is unlikely to earn most of them. As a 1st overall pick, he has every bonus available at the highest total, but these are the ones he might hit:

(i) Ice time (aggregate and/or per Game). Player must be among top six (6) forwards on the Club (minimum 42 Regular Season Games played by Player and comparison group).

He is currently 6th in both the aggregate and per game, but Goodrow isn't far behind in either.

(ii) Goals: 20 Goal Minimum

He has been scoring more lately, but is currently at 11 goals, so it's unlikely he hits this.

(vi) Plus-Minus Rating: Among top three (3) forwards on the Club (minimum 42 Regular Season Games played by Player and comparison group).

He's currently 6th at +7. Chytil is 3rd at +13.

The only one he is currently on pace to earn is the ice time bonus. If we see Goodrow getting more time and Laf less over the final 22 games, we'll know why.

If he hits it, it should be $212,500, as that is the max. If we assume that between Miller and Schneider, they earn half of their bonuses (400k total) and Halak earns his 50k, we are probably looking at a total of $662,500. That's the most I could see it being.

Again, that's a very rough estimate. There are a lot of variables I'm not privy to. It could be that both Miller and Schneider have all of the possible categories, but the bonus for each is very low. Or maybe they only have categories that they are unlikely to hit.

CapFriendly isn't up to date. They still have Carpenter up and Schneider down. However, they project us to only have $29,040 in cap space at the end of the year, so it's probably moot as to whether or not we use LTIR. We will likely end up having some money roll over into next season regardless.

I doubt they will, but they could demote Schneider (on paper) on off days for the rest of the season. Schneider makes 5000 per day. There are 44 days left in the season after today, and we have games on 21 of those days. That leaves 23 days where Schneider could be demoted, for a total of 115k in cap savings. That might still not be enough, but every penny saved this season is a penny we don't have to spend next season.

 

[CLW]

My personal theory is that Kreider is saving his best effort for the playoffs.

We lost last season because we ran out of juice, and everyone knows it. I think the mentality from a lot of the veterans this season has been 'let's get to the playoffs, then ratchet up the intensity'

Not just the veterans. The first two games of the season the team played with playoff intensity, they won handily and kind of went "OK we're good - when does the playoffs start..."

 

[Savant]

It won’t happen, but no one should be getting worked up about the rest of the regular season.. it’s all about the playoffs now. Rest of the season, just need to figure everything else out. Need to start peaking when they go into R1.

 

[Fitzy]

Not just the veterans. The first two games of the season the team played with playoff intensity, they won handily and kind of went "OK we're good - when does the playoffs start..."

Yep. Don't want to shorten it because I enjoy the games, but the regular season is too long. And there's too little benefit to finishing high in the standings now with the new division formats.

8 seed vs 1 seed matchups used to be my favorite to watch as a casual viewer. Especially when Hasek played for the Sabres.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

It won’t happen, but no one should be getting worked up about the rest of the regular season.. it’s all about the playoffs now. Rest of the season, just need to figure everything else out. Need to start peaking when they go into R1.

True but can’t back into the playoffs in a slump. They need to turn it up at some point before the season ends .

 

[Savant]

True but can’t back into the playoffs in a slump. They need to turn it up at some point before the season ends .

15-20 games to ramp up

 

[Avery16]

There you have it. A stunning admission from Gallant himself.

 

[EpicDing]

There you have it. A stunning admission from Gallant himself.

I mean you have to at least try it. If it doesn't work after a couple of games though make the adjustment.

 

[JCProdigy]

Beginning of the season I was hoping Shesty would be good enough to push us from a playoff roster to a cup roster.

Now if anything I'm more concerned about his consistency and the possibility of a cold streak in the playoffs than I am the group in front of him.

Funny how things can change so quickly, isn't it? That's why I do have to chuckle when people have such concrete opinions about the team (or anything really) 3-5 years out.

 

[Greg02]

Funny how things can change so quickly, isn't it? That's why I do have to chuckle when people have such concrete opinions about the team (or anything really) 3-5 years out.

If we win the cup, my first post after will be a three page essay about the moves we need to be making to acquire McDavid in 2026.

 

[leetch99]

The only players who have performance bonuses are Laf, Miller, Schneider and Halak.

Halak's bonus is only 50k and is based on wins and save percentage. I don't know how many wins he needs or what save percentage, but the odds are probably good that he will earn it.

Miller and Schneider each have 400k in potential bonuses. I have no idea which bonus categories they have as part of their contracts, but these are the ones that they might hit:

(i) Ice time (aggregate and/or per Game). Player must be among top four (4) defensemen on the Club minimum 42 Regular Season Games played by Player and comparison group).

Miller is 2nd in both the aggregate and per game, so if he has this in his contract, he will earn it, but no idea how much of the 400k that would be. It can't be more than 212,500.

Schneider is 5th in both the aggregate and per game. He won't earn this bonus if he has it, as he isn't passing any of Fox, Lindgren, Miller or Trouba (assuming Lindgren isn't out for too long).

(ii) Goals: 10 Goal Minimum

Miller has 6 goals. Schneider has 5. Neither is on pace to hit 10.

(iii) Assists: 25 Assist Minimum

Miller has 24 assists. Schneider has 10 assists. It seems likely that Miller will hit this bonus, assuming he has it in his contract.

(iv) Points: 40 Point Minimum

Miller has 30 points and Schneider has 15. Miller is on pace to hit 40, but missing 3 games due to suspension might leave him short.

(v) Points Per Game: .49 Points Per Game Minimum (minimum 42 Regular Season Games played)

Miller is at exactly .5 per game after 60 games. If he hits the 40 point mark, he will hit this one too. If he plays all of the remaining games except the 3 he is suspended for, he needs to hit at least 39 points to trigger this bonus, assuming it is in his contract.

(vi) Plus-Minus Rating: Among top three (3) defensemen on the Club (minimum 42 Regular Season Games played by Player and comparison group).

Schneider is 3rd in Plus-Minus. Miller is 4th.

(vii) Blocked Shots: Among top two (2) defensemen on the Club (minimum 42 Regular Season Games played by Player and comparison group).

Schneider is 2nd in blocked shots and Miller is 5th.


Lafreniere has 2.85 mil in potential bonuses, but he is unlikely to earn most of them. As a 1st overall pick, he has every bonus available at the highest total, but these are the ones he might hit:

(i) Ice time (aggregate and/or per Game). Player must be among top six (6) forwards on the Club (minimum 42 Regular Season Games played by Player and comparison group).

He is currently 6th in both the aggregate and per game, but Goodrow isn't far behind in either.

(ii) Goals: 20 Goal Minimum

He has been scoring more lately, but is currently at 11 goals, so it's unlikely he hits this.

(vi) Plus-Minus Rating: Among top three (3) forwards on the Club (minimum 42 Regular Season Games played by Player and comparison group).

He's currently 6th at +7. Chytil is 3rd at +13.

The only one he is currently on pace to earn is the ice time bonus. If we see Goodrow getting more time and Laf less over the final 22 games, we'll know why.

If he hits it, it should be $212,500, as that is the max. If we assume that between Miller and Schneider, they earn half of their bonuses (400k total) and Halak earns his 50k, we are probably looking at a total of $662,500. That's the most I could see it being.

Again, that's a very rough estimate. There are a lot of variables I'm not privy to. It could be that both Miller and Schneider have all of the possible categories, but the bonus for each is very low. Or maybe they only have categories that they are unlikely to hit.

CapFriendly isn't up to date. They still have Carpenter up and Schneider down. However, they project us to only have $29,040 in cap space at the end of the year, so it's probably moot as to whether or not we use LTIR. We will likely end up having some money roll over into next season regardless.

I doubt they will, but they could demote Schneider (on paper) on off days for the rest of the season. Schneider makes 5000 per day. There are 44 days left in the season after today, and we have games on 21 of those days. That leaves 23 days where Schneider could be demoted, for a total of 115k in cap savings. That might still not be enough, but every penny saved this season is a penny we don't have to spend next season.

Thanks for the update....it was very interesting and in-depth and likely a bit time consuming . I appreciated it .

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Panarin - Trochek - Kane seems like a no brainer . But that leaves the top line … it hasn’t been good with Kreider - Zib - Tarasenko at all, but GG doesn’t want to split the kid line .

 

[IDvsEGO]

Panarin - Trochek - Kane seems like a no brainer . But that leaves the top line … it hasn’t been good with Kreider - Zib - Tarasenko at all, but GG doesn’t want to split the kid line .

I wouldn’t want to split them either. While Kakko has done well at the top, Laf looks significantly better when he’s with Kakko and Chytil.
And you want to maximize each line as opposed to a single player.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

I'm 100% down to leave the Kreid-Zib-Tank line in tact for a while and let them figure it out. Sometimes chem isnt over night and it can take time. If they click that is absolutely our best path to success, so I think it's worth the investment of another 10-15 games.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

I'm 100% down to leave the Kreid-Zib-Tank line in tact for a while and let them figure it out. Sometimes chem isnt over night and it can take time. If they click that is absolutely our best path to success, so I think it's worth the investment of another 10-15 games.

I think Tarasenko clicking with Laf and Chytil would be even better, the kid line dominates the puck but doesn’t score enough, Zib-Kreider score but suck at controlling the puck in the zone , Kakko and Tarasenko swapping could solve both issues and give us 3 great lines

 

[Ruggs225]

I think Tarasenko clicking with Laf and Chytil would be even better, the kid line dominates the puck but doesn’t score enough, Zib-Kreider score but suck at controlling the puck in the zone , Kakko and Tarasenko swapping could solve both issues and give us 3 great lines

Like the thought process. Wouldnt be opposed to gallant trying it.


But gallant would instead probably move vesey up and bench laf for not really being 4th line material. Bc reasons.

 

[bl02]

Like the thought process. Wouldnt be opposed to gallant trying it.


But gallant would instead probably move vesey up and bench laf for not really being 4th line material. Bc reasons.

I can see that happening 99 percent. Lafreniere would look lost again and In no time vesey would take his spot and drop Lafreniere to the 4th line or possibly out of the lineup. We've seen what the kid line can in the playoffs and for a decent stretch this year. If they break it up they better damn make sure the Lines they come up with produce

 

[Fitzy]

Gallant will almost certainly tinker with the lines before the playoffs unless we go on some sort of 18-2 tear here so I’m not imminently concerned

 

[NikC]

There you have it. A stunning admission from Gallant himself.

Gallant leaves me confused at times.... his constant line changing, seemingly lack of strategy and getting this team focused...

He lets his players play... that's an understatement, but now especially, how else can you approach the talent level of this group? The way this team is going to win is by them figuring it out.

Defense and goaltending... they need support.

 

[RangerBoy]

Larry Brooks. Stanley Cup or bust for this group including the kids and the D. If the Rangers fall short because they lack size, grit and sandpaper, Drury will need to trade talent for grit. The Rangers can't keep the kid line intact if they need to put together a checking line.



Othmann and Cuylle will go along way towards adding size, grit, sandpaper and attitude.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Larry Brooks. Stanley Cup or bust for this group including the kids and the D. If the Rangers fall short because they lack size, grit and sandpaper, Drury will need to trade talent for grit. The Rangers can't keep the kid line intact if they need to put together a checking line.



Othmann and Cuylle will go along way towards adding size, grit, sandpaper and attitude.

Brooks needs to stop living in 1990.

No one has a checking line anymore.

 

[Boris Zubov]

Brooks needs to stop living in 1990.

No one has a checking line anymore.

Just the Canes.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Just the Canes.

Thats their entire roster though.

 

[McRanger92]

Just the Canes.

Hasn't helped them much

 

[Mac n Gs]

Glad that Brooksie already has his trade the skill for will articles lined up if we end up losing a tough playoff series.

I wonder who will be his main target that he’s hoping for all offseason.

It won’t be Jeannot after Tampa signs him to some insane 8x$2M contract, but he’ll probably wax poetic about it that Drury never made that move.

It’s definitely going to be something terrible like Lafreniere for Lawson Crouse or Panarin for Jaden Schwartz, Jamie Oleksiak and a 1st, so save yourself the outrage now when he’s potentially writing that article in three months.