Roster Building Thread IV (2019/2020)

[nyr2k2]

I don't expect Strome to replicate his production but he's worth taking a chance on.

Namestnikov, eh, don't really care. I don't want to give him away for nothing because if he has a decent year, he should be able to at least get a third at the deadline, like Vesey.

Kreider is Kreider. If the deal wasn't there, what can you do? Can't give him away for nothing.

 

[RangerBoy]

Connor Brickley is also a camp invitee. Michael Haley had already been reported. Thomas McCallum has been invited. Former Red Wings 1st rounder in 2008. Francois Brassard had already been reported. The Rangers are looking for a 5th goaltender in the organization.

https://nhl.bamcontent.com/images/assets/binary/309059952/binary-file/file.pdf

 

[Fitzy]

Those team C games have the potential to be pretty brutal.

Dunno who did the balancing but they dropped the ball on that one.

 

[n8]

I thought McCollum was a Hartford signing.

 

[nyr2k2]

I agree although Hartford is filling up quickly

It is tight.

Huska
McCollum
Shesterkin

Crawley
Day
Keane
Lindgren
LoVerde
Raddysh
Rykov
Smith
Taylor
Tolkinen

Beleskey
Brickley
Chase
Di Giuseppe
Dmowski
Elmer
Fogarty
Fontaine
Gettinger
Gropp
Jones
Leedahl
Lettieri
McBride
Meskanen
Newell
O'Regan
Ronning
Zerter-Gossage
Zolnierczyk

That's alot. But cross out the guys I crossed out and it's a good AHL roster, and at 25 not unreasonable.

 

[nyr2k2]

Connor Brickley is also a camp invitee. Michael Haley had already been reported. Thomas McCallum has been invited. Former Red Wings 1st rounder in 2008. Francois Brassard had already been reported. The Rangers are looking for a 5th goaltender in the organization.

https://nhl.bamcontent.com/images/assets/binary/309059952/binary-file/file.pdf

McCollum signed an AHL deal when LoVerde and Zolnierczyk did as well.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Nice to see both ADA and Lemieux listed. Can't imagine they would put them on the roster unless they knew for fact they were coming. Hopefully contracts will be signed soon.

 

[Vitto79]

Rykov hurt?

 

[nyr2k2]

Rykov hurt?

He's on the roster.

 

[mas0764]

Folks should also try to keep in mind that JG tried to deal Buch for a 1st at the draft... had that deal gone through, things would certainly be much more manageable caps wise.

And we'd have Trevor Zegras in our system as a future #1C.

Again not privy to how that conversation went, but I think I would have upped my offer to Edmonton if I was JG.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

He's on the roster.

He’s def not in any of the groups I’ve seen

 

[Dr. Ogrodnick]

We're significantly better on offense. If the defense gets their **** together, we should project to make the playoffs. Big if though.



Yes, their development definitely will suffer. I want emphasize that ADA has waaay more leverage and you can't bag him up with Lemieux as "players that have by and large proven nothing." ADA has proven a lot last season, enough to earn a brigde deal around 1.5-2m/y.

I want both signed by camp and the easiest way to do so imo is to just somehow get rid of Nam.

ADA has 0 leverage. Period. His 2 options are sign for what the Rangers are offering, get his butt in camp, and have a good season, which will increase hia earning potential exponentially when he will actually have some leverage next offseason. Or he can hold out, not get a bigger contract offer, let Fox and others overtake him on the depth chart, and either sign late and negatively impact his season and his leverage next year, or sit out the entire season which would put him in the same position next season, only with much more damage to his already less than stellar reputation.

 

[bigdog16]

He's on the roster.

Im not seeing him

 

[nyr2k2]

He’s def not in any of the groups I’ve seen

Im not seeing him

The press release says 56 guys are attending, and then, by my count, lists 54. Then if you click the link for the "full" roster, you get this: https://nhl.bamcontent.com/images/assets/binary/309059952/binary-file/file.pdf

And he's on that.

 

[Trxjw]

It is tight.

Huska
McCollum
Shesterkin

Crawley
Day
Keane
Lindgren
LoVerde
Raddysh
Rykov
Smith
Taylor
Tolkinen

Beleskey
Brickley
Chase
Di Giuseppe
Dmowski
Elmer
Fogarty
Fontaine
Gettinger
Gropp
Jones
Leedahl
Lettieri
McBride
Meskanen
Newell
O'Regan
Ronning
Zerter-Gossage
Zolnierczyk

That's alot. But cross out the guys I crossed out and it's a good AHL roster, and at 25 not unreasonable.

I think you gotta hope Ronning makes the Hartford squad, no? I think he's definitely a long-shot prospect but I don't see the ECHL as much of a benefit for him this year.

 

[nyr2k2]

I think you gotta hope Ronning makes the Hartford squad, no? I think he's definitely a long-shot prospect but I don't see the ECHL as much of a benefit for him this year.

Yeah I hope so, I just personally saw absolutely nothing in his game that leads me to believe he's an AHL player at this point. He can't find the time or the space to get off his shot, and he doesn't bring a lot else. Hopefully he has taken a step forward, but I'm not terribly optimistic.

 

[True Blue]

Folks should also try to keep in mind that JG tried to deal Buch for a 1st at the draft... had that deal gone through, things would certainly be much more manageable caps wise.

And Krieder. And Nametsnikov. But those deals never materialized. And now, no one is dealing anything.

 

[RangerBoy]

McCollum signed an AHL deal when LoVerde and Zolnierczyk did as well.

Missed that one. Why not just bring back Halverson? McCollum will be 30 this December. Not it's likely Halverson will be an NHL goalie but after watching Jordan Binnington emerge out of nowhere to lead the Blues to the Cup you never know. The Blues loaned him to the Bruins AHL team in Providence in 17-18 because they had room for him in the AHL.

 

[True Blue]

50% retained puts him at 1.55M on an expiring deal. He scored 18 goals and 33 points in 63 games for us last year (19g/35pts in 81 total). He’s an RFA at season’s end playing for his next contract and to stay in the NHL and showed 20g potential. At 1.55M I cant imagine we couldn’t have gotten a 3rd rounder from someone. I think we chose to keep him because we want to see if he can build on last year and because we’re thin at center but I believe that’s a shortsighted move. Long term he’s not in the plans. It’s pointless to block the youth with a guy like Strome or to spend money locking him up long term if he has a solid season. We won’t be contenders this year so platooning the kids and Namestnikov as our C’s after Zbad should theoretically be fine. I’d have aggressively shopped Strome at 50%. Clearing 1.55M with out salary coming back and without any cap implication beyond this year would have provided a very needed cushion

I think it is a combination. First the deal may not be out there, even with half retained. I clearly cannot prove that. Second, I believe it may be exactly as yous say and have said the same thing. They may well want to see if Strome is for real or not. He came here last year, completely changed his game for Quinn, finally got confidence and comfort from a franchise and had good results. Comfort and belief in a franchise can be important to a player. Which means that it if it is AND he continues to take further steps forward, then he might be open to a friendly deal.

I do not believe that virtually anything is etched in stone for Gorton. I think that he has a plan and is executing his plan. But that plan has contingencies. If a player suddenly bursts on the scene, then that just gives him more assets with which to make further deals with. You may want to aggressively shop Strome to create more space. Gorton may be content to wait and have DeAngelo and Lemieux sign team friendsl deals and see if he has possibly got a former 5OA pick to play close to his potential and he now has a player he can move from 2nd to third line and from wing to center.

 

[True Blue]

There’s no way Strome at 1 year 3 mil with rfa control next year couldn’t get some kind of offer. Just no way. I like Strome but come on if you couldn’t make namestnikov go away and you didn’t like the Kreider offers then you had to bite the bullet and move him. He’d be the next in line.

Or even Jesper Fast! Telling me no one wanted him? He won’t be here next year. Easily could have moved him to clear some more room.

What is the more likely scenario, that there is no deal or that Gorton wants to go through a year with as little cap room as possible?

Another thing that needs to be remembered is that Gorton is NOT going simply give assets away or make any deals for pennies on dollar. Am if he could have given Shattenkirk away, he would have. But no one was touching him even with half retained. Same goes for Staal and Smith

 

[Trxjw]

Yeah I hope so, I just personally saw absolutely nothing in his game that leads me to believe he's an AHL player at this point. He can't find the time or the space to get off his shot, and he doesn't bring a lot else. Hopefully he has taken a step forward, but I'm not terribly optimistic.

Definitely agree with you there. Hopefully he can earn a spot with the Pack and take some steps forward.

 

[Kovalev27]

I thought McCollum was a Hartford signing.

Yes he’s not an invite we signed him

 

[nyr2k2]

Missed that one. Why not just bring back Halverson? McCollum will be 30 this December. Not it's likely Halverson will be an NHL goalie but after watching Jordan Binnington emerge out of nowhere to lead the Blues to the Cup you never know. The Blues loaned him to the Bruins AHL team in Providence in 17-18 because they had room for him in the AHL.

Nell was hot garbage. Just turned 25 and last year he played for like a half-dozen teams and was bad even in the ECHL. I saw no future for him.

Halverson, given that he's 23 and played very well in the ECHL, and as well as Tokarski or Mazanec for Hartford, I thought there was a small chance they would qualify him for another year. I guess they figured with their top five set--Lundqvist, Georgiev, Shesterkin, Huska--that they'd rather sign a veteran backup to shuttle between Hartford and Greenville instead of another guy who needs development.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

She merely threw a few Euros on the now damaged (along with his psyche) nightstand for cab fare

After my night with Ola...

 

[Kovalev27]

Panarin - Zibanejad - Buchnevich in one group.
Kreider - Chytil - Kakko in one group.

Skjei in Trouba's group.
Staal in DeAngelo's.

Reading too much into this? MAYBE.

The more I think about it I love this set up. Kakko likes the puck on his stick. He won’t have it as much with 10 and 93. Kreider and Chytil can go get him the puck and let him do his thing. Also keeps him away from top D pairs for now.