Roster Building Thread IV (2019/2020)

[Vitto79]

He can be a call up with a 1-way deal. The 1-way or 2-way only affects the salary.

1-way = Same salary in AHL
2-way = Lower salary in AHL

Alrighty then ... he’d be a fine vet on a cheap deal. When’s the Camp roster released? Thought I saw the Pens released theirs

 

[Kovalev27]

Your points are fair, but just on this, Lemieux is on his second team. No big deal here, as he was a prospect that was traded for an established player by a team that had Cup aspirations. And has not nearly had the issues that ADA has had in his other stops.

Noooo Brendan Lemieux was a Buffalo Sabre 31st overall pick. Which would be a first rounder now. That’s 3 organizations before his 24th bday like I said. It is what it is and it would look real bad to end up on his 4th because of a contract dispute.

 

[Kovalev27]

I’m glad they invited Haley. Message sent. Get your ass in camp Brendan you aren’t as good as your father stop listening to him.

 

[Avery16]

 

[Harbour Dog]

As long as we don't sign Haley, I'm fine with having a goon for pre-season. Lots of AHL tough guys are desperate to make a name for themselves around that time; may as well give them a willing target.

 

[Avery16]

 

[Mac n Gs]

Haley is fine for the preseason and nearly all teams have these type of guys come in on PTOs for September. The Flames just gave PTOs to DSP, Reider, and Zac Rinaldo, and the Panthers gave one to Troy Brouwer. Even though we have only 43 (excluding ADA and Lemiuex) spots right now, I don't see the Rangers wasting a slot on Haley. They have better depth winger options, and he's not going to really fill any significant role in HFD.

 

[Kakko]

Young players get traded. Young players have literally no input on being traded. People here are ways trying to trade for young players. Young players get traded for vets at the deadline.

A young player having been on multiple teams indicates nothing, except someone trying to craft a shitty narrative against them.

 

[Edge]

Can’t believe it’s been 7 years since the last time Haley was around these parts.

 

[Edge]

Young players get traded. Young players have literally no input on being traded. People here are ways trying to trade for young players. Young players get traded for vets at the deadline.

A young player having been on multiple teams indicates nothing, except someone trying to craft a ****ty narrative against them.

I mostly agree. Having said that, in a league where young talent is at a premium, a player who is moved multiple times in five years typically has a few noteworthy question marks or concerns.

Not always mind you, but more often than not.

 

[nyr2k2]

I mostly agree. Having said that, in a league where young talent is at a premium, a player who is moved multiple times in five years typically has a few noteworthy question marks or concerns.

Not always mind you, but more often than not.

Yeah, like Lemieux being on three organizations, doesn't really tell you much. He was part of a mega-deal while still in junior hockey, and then he was the targeted young player in your standard rental deal. I've never heard any rumors of any issues with the player. He was just subject to standard movement that younger players sometimes face.

ADA, he obviously had some issues. The maturity questions, the coachability questions. We've been over it ad nauseum. His movement felt more "meaningful" than Lemieux's. Much like the original Tony D--Anthony Duclair. There was "stuff" that followed him around.

Lemieux, I don't think that's the case, at all.

 

[Harbour Dog]

Yeah, like Lemieux being on three organizations, doesn't really tell you much. He was part of a mega-deal while still in junior hockey, and then he was the targeted young player in your standard rental deal. I've never heard any rumors of any issues with the player. He was just subject to standard movement that younger players sometimes face.

ADA, he obviously had some issues. The maturity questions, the coachability questions. We've been over it ad nauseum. His movement felt more "meaningful" than Lemieux's. Much like the original Tony D--Anthony Duclair. There was "stuff" that followed him around.

Lemieux, I don't think that's the case, at all.

 

[Edge]

The only questions with Lemieux were primarily focused on how his game would translate at the NHL level - specifically whether the speed of the game would potentially limit his offensive production.

With that said, the Buffalo trade wasn’t about him doing anything worrisome, and the Winnipeg trade was because he had value. In neither case were there any red flags associated with Lemieux.

Additionally, in no way, shape, or form was Lemieux a throw-in. Much like ADA, the Rangers knew exactly what they were looking at.

 

[Kovalev27]

No one is saying anything negative about Lemieux it’s more of a take on his status in this league and what that looks like if he’s on a 4th team in his first 4 years because of a contract dispute when he’s done nothing to earn a dime more.

Both these kids need to be very careful how they tread right now. They’ve earned very little and right or wrong u move around 4 times before your 24th bday you’re next move might be the khl.

 

[Bob Richards]

Can’t believe it’s been 7 years since the last time Haley was around these parts.

Feels like yesterday when he, Dorsett and Newbury were an actual line we had for a playoff game

 

[bobbop]

I asked someone with the Coyotes about Michael Stone. He has apparently been skating some with Coyote players. Seems that he has several PTO offers in hand but is holding out hoping to get a contract from someone.

Makes sense

 

[Avery16]

Can’t believe it’s been 7 years since the last time Haley was around these parts.

The year we had Haley, we also boasted:
Asham
Mashinter
Powe
Bickel
Segal
Ferriero
Newbury
Gilroy
Rupp
Hamrlik
and Christian Thomas

Cream of the crop, that roster!

 

[NYRFAN218]

The year we had Haley, we also boasted:
Asham
Mashinter
Powe
Bickel
Segal
Ferriero
Newbury
Gilroy
Rupp
Hamrlik
and Christian Thomas

Cream of the crop, that roster!

The combo of 5 that was on the ice for the season ending goal against the Bruins was the following:

Haley - Newbury - Dorsett
Hamrlik - Eminger

Never forget.

 

[Fitzy]

The year we had Haley, we also boasted:
Asham
Mashinter
Powe
Bickel
Segal
Ferriero
Newbury
Gilroy
Rupp
Hamrlik
and Christian Thomas

Cream of the crop, that roster!

We had a great roster that year, it was just incredibly topheavy.

 

[NYRFAN218]

We had a great roster that year, it was just incredibly topheavy.

What always annoyed me was Torts stuck to his same collapse in the D zone while capitalizing on the counterattack method that worked in 11-12. Given the amount of talent they had up front to start the season in Nash, Gaborik, and Richards, I would have loved to have seen him open things up more.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Tanner Glass on the ice at important times , ugh

Staal constantly run out there when he should be used on the 3rd pair

Yea mistakes were made but the biggest factor was Zuc getting hurt the year they played LA

The biggest problem vs L.A was that our d were all playing with serious injuries and the only chance we had was if our d could contain them, if they were healthy we could have had a chance, even if their injuries werent as severe as they were. "What if's" I guess, let's hope we can get back there soon.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

What always annoyed me was Torts stuck to his same collapse in the D zone while capitalizing on the counterattack method that worked in 11-12. Given the amount of talent they had up front to start the season in Nash, Gaborik, and Richards, I would have loved to have seen him open things up more.

Torts needed to give Gaborik some freedom, he basically chased him out of New York. I also think he was too hard on DelZotto at times and basically broke him.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

The only questions with Lemieux were primarily focused on how his game would translate at the NHL level - specifically whether the speed of the game would potentially limit his offensive production.

With that said, the Buffalo trade wasn’t about him doing anything worrisome, and the Winnipeg trade was because he had value. In neither case were there any red flags associated with Lemieux.

Additionally, in no way, shape, or form was Lemieux a throw-in. Much like ADA, the Rangers knew exactly what they were looking at.

Also, immediately after the rangers acquired him they had multiple calls from playoff teams wanting Lemieux if they were willing to flip him.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

I'll never forget Haley-Newbury-Dorsett as the 4th line in the game Boston eliminated us in 2013.

With D pairs of Moore/Eminger and Del Zotto/Hamrlik.

And Taylor Pyatt getting 16 minutes of ice time (1 minute more than Zucc lol).

 

[NYRKING30]

Apparently there’s Patrik Laine trade discussions per Incarcerated Bob ( yes I know lol).