Speculation: Roster Building Thread III (2021 Offseason) - “Simple Jack”, "Will over Skill", "Drury in a Hurry"?

[jay from jersey]

Where did the Barkov talk come from? Is there any indication he isn't staying in Florida? I haven't heard a thing in that regard.

Not really. Some teams inquired what it would take to get him via trade at the beginning of the season but their GM threw cold water on it right away. He came out and said he’s not available, part of the long term plans, etc and what have you. Barkov isn’t the type of guy that would make a public trade request like Eichel would either. So that’s where the information stops. FLA finally making the playoffs might have killed our chances. He might not think he’s wasting his prime of his career there with a team that is unlikely to make the postseason.
The hope is that when FLA is allowed to sign him to a massive extension this year, he declines and informs them he will be going to Free Agency. That would indicate that he wants out and wants to go to a bigger market with a team that is more inclined to make the postseason for the rest of his prime/career.
Those of us that are praying for this to happen, hopes he takes the Panarin route and comes to NY. With the talent we have at wings, D, and in goal I’d argue Barkov couldn’t go to another team where he would slot in so perfectly. Playing on a line of LaF/panarin-Barkov-Kakko. With him in the middle of the first line and all the young talent we have plus Panarin it would pretty much Guarantee a playoff birth for the entirety of his next deal.
The only hope is this little taste of playoff hockey makes him hungry for wanting to get his name on the cup and would want a change in market to more of a sure thing. So right now there’s a 1-5% chance he leaves but if he doesn’t sign long term at the first possible time, somethings up. And that’s what we’re all praying for

 

[MrAlmost]

I think the Wild make a good trade partner for Buch and maybe Strome too.

 

[chosen]

Disney World as an enticement for an NHL player is funny stuff.

 

[NYR Viper]

Disney World as an enticement for an NHL player is funny stuff.

If they have a young family, which many do, you better believe it’s an enticement. Just like most people with young families.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Not really. Some teams inquired what it would take to get him via trade at the beginning of the season but their GM threw cold water on it right away. He came out and said he’s not available, part of the long term plans, etc and what have you. Barkov isn’t the type of guy that would make a public trade request like Eichel would either. So that’s where the information stops. FLA finally making the playoffs might have killed our chances. He might not think he’s wasting his prime of his career there with a team that is unlikely to make the postseason.
The hope is that when FLA is allowed to sign him to a massive extension this year, he declines and informs them he will be going to Free Agency. That would indicate that he wants out and wants to go to a bigger market with a team that is more inclined to make the postseason for the rest of his prime/career.
Those of us that are praying for this to happen, hopes he takes the Panarin route and comes to NY. With the talent we have at wings, D, and in goal I’d argue Barkov couldn’t go to another team where he would slot in so perfectly. Playing on a line of LaF/panarin-Barkov-Kakko. With him in the middle of the first line and all the young talent we have plus Panarin it would pretty much Guarantee a playoff birth for the entirety of his next deal.
The only hope is this little taste of playoff hockey makes him hungry for wanting to get his name on the cup and would want a change in market to more of a sure thing. So right now there’s a 1-5% chance he leaves but if he doesn’t sign long term at the first possible time, somethings up. And that’s what we’re all praying for

He has a better chance short term at a cup where he is

 

[Synergy27]

Where did the Barkov talk come from? Is there any indication he isn't staying in Florida? I haven't heard a thing in that regard.

Hopes and prayers.

 

[LetsGoRangers2021]

so you wouldn't sign Panarin last summer cause we have no room?? for a player like Landeskog you sign him and make room later.

That is quite literally not how it works.

 

[RGY]

We are not signing Landeskog. No way, not happening. He is not a center. We need centers. We cannot be investing north of $7-$8 million per year in another LWer. You want to bring in someone like Foligno who will cost less AAV wise and slide Kreider to RW (which is not ideal for him) then I am willing to do that. But not Landeskog.

 

[archanfelnsx]

Landeskog and many other UFA’s haven’t signed their extensions yet because of the expansion draft. If they signed early they would be an extra player to have to protect from Seattle. They will probably announce the signings after the draft is done. Why would Landeskog leave a young team that will be Cup contenders for the foreseeable future to a team like the Rangers who just cleaned house with management and coaches? The Rangers are a team in transition right now; they could either become really good next year or regress if the wrong coaches and players are acquired.

 

[Fitzy]

lol it’s only may and we are already talking Landeskog

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

lol it’s only may and we are already talking Landeskog

At least it's shifted away from Eichel.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Hypothetically speaking, if the Panthers made Barkov available this summer because they knew he didn't want to extend, what would the cost be?

My assumption its Kakko, Miller, Strome and a 1st.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Disney World as an enticement for an NHL player is funny stuff.

I love Disney

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Wait a second. Why would Quenneville have his eyes set on Seattle? If he breaks loose, we should be all over him.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Hypothetically speaking, if the Panthers made Barkov available this summer because they knew he didn't want to extend, what would the cost be?

My assumption its Kakko, Miller, Strome and a 1st.

He better come with an extension in place if Kakko is attached. And even then I’d be wary of trading him in this deal, even though Barkov would be worth it.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Wait a second. Why would Quenneville have his eyes set on Seattle? If he breaks loose, we should be all over him.

I said the same in the other thread. Does he not realize that there’s a vacancy that is incredibly similar to the team he took over in Chicago in 2008?

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Where did the Barkov talk come from? Is there any indication he isn't staying in Florida? I haven't heard a thing in that regard.

Speculation based on the fact that there are Rumors that Quenville is leaving + FLA getting their lunch handed to them in the playoffs and they are not that good.

 

[Machinehead]

Landeskog is absolutely not a player you just drop everything for and figure it out later.

He's probably not even a top 30 player.

 

[Rongomania]

Hypothetically speaking, if the Panthers made Barkov available this summer because they knew he didn't want to extend, what would the cost be?

My assumption its Kakko, Miller, Strome and a 1st.

I actually think if they could work out a deal with Zibanejad where he signs for much less than Barkov in FLA,

Zibanejad + Buch + Lundkvist + 1st.

We would be fine and that is overpayment and honestly probably what he would be worth to this team.

I just do not want to give up on Kakko & Miller.

 

[Doctyl]

I wonder if Getzlaf would take a cheap 1 or 2 year deal. He’s past his prime and I doubt anyone’s giving him another big contract. He still has solid CF% and xGF% numbers relative to his team this year. Could be a solid stopgap center

 

[kovazub94]

Florida is the most booming place in America right now and everyone & their dog is moving there. There is a mass exodus from the likes of New York & California the past couple years, thousands are moving to Florida everyday. California lost congressional seats this year for the first time ever. 330,000 people moved to Florida from April 2020 to April 2021 alone. "Post-college youth" aren't exactly the most objective group to ask opinions on states from, and will have a bias against Florida for obvious reasons

Are you tracking me?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Florida is the most booming place in America right now and everyone & their dog is moving there. There is a mass exodus from the likes of New York & California the past couple years, thousands are moving to Florida everyday. California lost congressional seats this year for the first time ever. 330,000 people moved to Florida from April 2020 to April 2021 alone. "Post-college youth" aren't exactly the most objective group to ask opinions on states from, and will have a bias against Florida for obvious reasons

Most of those were not moves made with the intent to stay in the state permanently.

I know a TON of people who got out of NY specifically within that time frame who will either be coming back in the next few months or have already done so.

 

[DutchShamrock]

What do you guys think about either leaving Georgiev open for the Expansion draft or trying to move him and bringing in Charlie Lindgren as a backup? He's only got 24 NHL starts at 27 yrs old and MTL is already spending 13M on goaltending with Price and Allen. I don't think he's gotten a real opportunity. I feel like Georgiev is a little pricey for what's been a bit of up and down play. Lindrgen may or may not be a player but I think it would at least be a good attitude in the room hopefully. I haven't heard of Charlie punching out any teammates anyway.

I like Georgiev but a back up goalie js the easiest position to replace. If he is our expansion loss, easy price to take.

I am looking at Carter Hutton. He was good until Buffalo. Better system and Benny in his head should get him back to his old days.

 

[jay from jersey]

He has a better chance short term at a cup where he is

Perhaps. I don’t think FLA could sustain this type of play over the rigors of an 82 game season. They also are going to have a harder schedule when they switch back to normal division. This year they were getting by on career years by guys like Verhauggie and Marchment and guys playing over their head like Duclair and Wennberg. The later 2 usually crash in the last 15-20 games. I know they have Lundell and Denisenko coming but not much else. They D has some big question marks as well.
I just don’t think they have the talent in the top 9 like the Rangers do. If there was ever a time to poach a player in free agency Barkov checks all the boxes.

 

[Machinehead]

I wonder if Getzlaf would take a cheap 1 or 2 year deal. He’s past his prime and I doubt anyone’s giving him another big contract. He still has solid CF% and xGF% numbers relative to his team this year. Could be a solid stopgap center

Inb4 somebody screams his age at you