Speculation: Roster Building Thread III (2021 Offseason) - “Simple Jack”, "Will over Skill", "Drury in a Hurry"?

[Dr Quincy]

They are a paper tiger. Ekblad is not the reason they don't look like they belong.

I love the "Barkov is going to sign some place that's better than FLA" angle.... and then for some reason the choice is a team that's worse than FLA.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Point taken but in a cap league that's not how you win a cup

That’s 20/20, at the time pre COVID and 1OA, there wassnt much wrong with that contract other than a slight overpayment for intangibles. Now we see where we are we know we have a Krieder and Trouba problem coming up in a year or two.

 

[jay from jersey]

Barkov will sign an extension this summer, and FLA's long term playoff hopes are pretty darn good. They are missing their #1 D and for some reason felt obligated to player their 3rd best G ($ and optics).

Yep, they are going to resign him as early as they are allowed to. If for some reason Barkov doesn’t sign a long term deal for whatever reason, rangers got to be all over that

 

[TheBloodyNine]

I love the "Barkov is going to sign some place that's better than FLA" angle.... and then for some reason the choice is a team that's worse than FLA.

I didn't say anything about Barkov signing. I said facts, Florida is not as good as they appear. Next season they will not be playing Detroit, CBJ, Chicago, Nashville and Dallas 8 times each a year. This team that is playing and losing right now is pretty much exactly what they had last season.

 

[LORDE]

That’s 20/20, at the time pre COVID and 1OA, there wassnt much wrong with that contract other than a slight overpayment for intangibles. Now we see where we are we know we have a Krieder and Trouba problem coming up in a year or two.

I didn't like the contract before the ink dried, but I digress

 

[RangersFan1994]

Will Landeskog leave the Avalanche? If he does, I’d love to have him

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Will Landeskog leave the Avalanche? If he does, I’d love to have him

Yeah he can play LW on our 4th line.

 

[huerter]

Will Landeskog leave the Avalanche? If he does, I’d love to have him

Would fill 1/3 of our beauty checklist.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Barkov isnt giving up a tax break, sunny weather, beaches all year.....why in the blue hell would he leave right?

 

[Flan the incredible]

How good is Florida without Barkov?

People are viewing the team with him on it. If he leaves are they a playoff team?

Now add him to another team and how good is that team? Is that team going to be able to field a competitive team for years? How is their cap situation?

Pretty sure that is how he is going to judge the team he will sign a long term contract with.

I still think Florida signs him but I dont think its a guarantee like many on these boards. If he takes this series loss to heart things could go south for them quickly.

 

[SA16]

How good is Florida without Barkov?

People are viewing the team with him on it. If he leaves are they a playoff team?

Now add him to another team and how good is that team? Is that team going to be able to field a competitive team for years? How is their cap situation?

Pretty sure that is how he is going to judge the team he will sign a long term contract with.

I still think Florida signs him but I dont think its a guarantee like many on these boards. If he takes this series loss to heart things could go south for them quickly.

Why would we want to sign a guy who quits on his team at the first sign of adversity? I'd rather have someone like Jeff Skinner who says he wants to stay in Buffalo and help turn them around. That's the attitude we need.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Will Landeskog leave the Avalanche? If he does, I’d love to have him

No room.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

"No."

Conversation over, Kreider wins.

I read this in Shao Khan voice followed by Flawless Victory.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

I didn't like the contract before the ink dried, but I digress

Fair enuf

 

[Avery16]

Barkov isnt giving up a tax break, sunny weather, beaches all year.....why in the blue hell would he leave right?

Maybe he cares about his career

 

[ponzu4u]

Barkov isnt giving up a tax break, sunny weather, beaches all year.....why in the blue hell would he leave right?

Somewhat off-topic, because I truly don't believe Barkov is going to base his signing decision primarily on whether he wants to keep living in Florida, but...

I've known/met a lot of young people ages 21-35 who grew up in Florida. I've yet to meet one who speaks particularly highly of it. I think Florida is a great state to go to college in, and obviously retire in, but I'm not aware of a big post-college youth movement happening in that direction.

Barkov clearly has enough money to live in the absolute nicest part of whatever city he chooses to play for. He has the money to travel to whatever beach vacations his heart desires, whenever he wants.

This idea that Florida is the most ideal destination in the US for professional athletes gets brought up a lot here, but the results just don't really seem to back it up. In any sport.

Lebron, Wade and Bosh teamed up in Miami cause of the cap space and opportunity. Not because they were all obsessed with Florida. Where are the examples of huge athletes who weren't drafted by Florida teams deciding to play for Florida teams?

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

If Barkov was made available for one reason or another this summer open up the war chest.

 

[RangersFan1994]

No room.

so you wouldn't sign Panarin last summer cause we have no room?? for a player like Landeskog you sign him and make room later.

 

[Rangerboy030]

On the topic of FLA, I wonder if a playoff loss could lead to them being willing to part with more value in exchange for someone like Buch or Strome? Their next season will probably be their best chance at winning it all since their finals run in the 90s and with Barkov up at the end of next season, you've got to figure they're feeling nervous that next season could be their last chance to make a serious cup run for a good long while.

 

[jay from jersey]

I love the "Barkov is going to sign some place that's better than FLA" angle.... and then for some reason the choice is a team that's worse than FLA.

Don’t think I’m an 82 game season the panthers are a better team then the rangers with a proper coach. Especially if we go back to normal division play. Rangers also have a better farm and more high end young players then the panthers.

this year, FLA got hot at the right time and got career years from guys that aren’t 1st/2nd liners. No shot they keep up that kind of current production in a full season.
As far as Barkov leaving FLA, chances are pretty slim, but if he doesn’t sign a long term deal next year at the earliest point the panthers can offer it to him, there is at least a small hope he holds out for FA.

I’d argue position by position the rangers are the better team currently and in the next 5-6 years. They are Taylor made right now for a player like Barkov to come in and lead this team for years. More then likely it would be better for his career statistically and in terms of post season appearances if he jetted to take the rangers 1C job. So I’d hold off on the panthers being the much better team he’s leaving

 

[SML2]

What do you guys think about either leaving Georgiev open for the Expansion draft or trying to move him and bringing in Charlie Lindgren as a backup? He's only got 24 NHL starts at 27 yrs old and MTL is already spending 13M on goaltending with Price and Allen. I don't think he's gotten a real opportunity. I feel like Georgiev is a little pricey for what's been a bit of up and down play. Lindrgen may or may not be a player but I think it would at least be a good attitude in the room hopefully. I haven't heard of Charlie punching out any teammates anyway.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Somewhat off-topic, because I truly don't believe Barkov is going to base his signing decision primarily on whether he wants to keep living in Florida, but...

I've known/met a lot of young people ages 21-35 who grew up in Florida. I've yet to meet one who speaks particularly highly of it. I think Florida is a great state to go to college in, and obviously retire in, but I'm not aware of a big post-college youth movement happening in that direction.

Barkov clearly has enough money to live in the absolute nicest part of whatever city he chooses to play for. He has the money to travel to whatever beach vacations his heart desires, whenever he wants.

This idea that Florida is the most ideal destination in the US for professional athletes gets brought up a lot here, but the results just don't really seem to back it up. In any sport.

Lebron, Wade and Bosh teamed up in Miami cause of the cap space and opportunity. Not because they were all obsessed with Florida. Where are the examples of huge athletes who weren't drafted by Florida teams deciding to play for Florida teams?

Florida is the most booming place in America right now and everyone & their dog is moving there. There is a mass exodus from the likes of New York & California the past couple years, thousands are moving to Florida everyday. California lost congressional seats this year for the first time ever. 330,000 people moved to Florida from April 2020 to April 2021 alone. "Post-college youth" aren't exactly the most objective group to ask opinions on states from, and will have a bias against Florida for obvious reasons

 

[jay from jersey]

What do you guys think about either leaving Georgiev open for the Expansion draft or trying to move him and bringing in Charlie Lindgren as a backup? He's only got 24 NHL starts at 27 yrs old and MTL is already spending 13M on goaltending with Price and Allen. I don't think he's gotten a real opportunity. I feel like Georgiev is a little pricey for what's been a bit of up and down play. Lindrgen may or may not be a player but I think it would at least be a good attitude in the room hopefully. I haven't heard of Charlie punching out any teammates anyway.

I’m up for anything that would get Georgiev and his cap hit off the roster. If he were consistent fine, but he’s making way to much for an erratic back up

 

[jay from jersey]

Florida is the most booming place in America right now and everyone & their dog is moving there. There is a mass exodus from the likes of New York & California the past couple years, thousands are moving to Florida everyday. California lost congressional seats this year for the first time ever. 330,000 people moved to Florida from April 2020 to April 2021 alone. "Post-college youth" aren't exactly the most objective group to ask opinions on states from, and will have a bias against Florida for obvious reasons

Yes, on top of being 1 of only 3 states in the US to have good state tax laws ( NV, TX, and FLA). Florida has a booming economy, night life, etc. it’s everything a millionaire in his 20’s could want. Women, sunshine, beaches, and freaking Disney world. If Barky were to move on, it would be a career decision about wanting to go to a new team, fresh start, years in postseason, multiple chances at the cup that the panthers might not be able to afford him. Odds are even if he leaves he keeps a residence and probably retires there. FLA Is also a very attractive FA destination. Like I said, the chances of him leaving are pretty slim

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

Somewhat off-topic, because I truly don't believe Barkov is going to base his signing decision primarily on whether he wants to keep living in Florida, but...

I've known/met a lot of young people ages 21-35 who grew up in Florida. I've yet to meet one who speaks particularly highly of it. I think Florida is a great state to go to college in, and obviously retire in, but I'm not aware of a big post-college youth movement happening in that direction.

Barkov clearly has enough money to live in the absolute nicest part of whatever city he chooses to play for. He has the money to travel to whatever beach vacations his heart desires, whenever he wants.

This idea that Florida is the most ideal destination in the US for professional athletes gets brought up a lot here, but the results just don't really seem to back it up. In any sport.

Lebron, Wade and Bosh teamed up in Miami cause of the cap space and opportunity. Not because they were all obsessed with Florida. Where are the examples of huge athletes who weren't drafted by Florida teams deciding to play for Florida teams?

There’s a couple who just won the Super Bowl