Speculation: Roster Building Thread III (2019/2020) - Tick Tock

[offdacrossbar]

dumb signing. hes not only entered bust territory, he bought land and built a house on it.

having said that, colo is for real.

that organization is going to be scary good for a long time.

 

[GordonGecko]

The current situation where you have 5+ RFAs who are legitimate superstars in the NHL unsigned should be bullet point #1 for a soft cap. If these guys don't play it's not only going to hurt their teams it's going to hurt the NHL's product

This is the NHL in 2019. The league is run by young players now. They're all on social media. They're all friends. They're all talking to each other. They're all hanging out together. ... And do you know one common theme you can take away whenever you hear current NHL players getting interviewed? Whether it's Hall, Hayes, MAF, Mackinnon, etc.? They all want to see other get PAID. They love seeing their colleagues get PAID. That's how it should be.

Players can ask to get paid all they want but there is a hard cap. At the end of the day the pot has X dollars and when those dollars are spread around is only a finite number left for them. Seems like recently there's been a huge spike in salaries completely ignoring the realities of the cap, this most likely has to do with the new US TV contract starting 2021-22 but GMs have really jumped the gun on handing out that money and now they're paying the price.

A soft cap would be great for the Rangers but we all know Carolina and Winnpeg and 80% of the league will never go for it. Those smaller market teams will never go back to the old days of losing money and quite the opposite they will try to squeeze the players even more at the next CBA. Something has to give, and players aren't going to like what it is that does give

 

[wafflepadsave]

They won’t sell, but they really should be moving CK if they don’t intend on keeping him.

There is nothing stopping them from moving Kreider and making an add or 2.

Other than no trade partner with cap space.

 

[Irishguy42]

Other than no trade partner with cap space.

Cap space is re-calculated daily during the season, so Kreider's cap hit isn't actually going to be $4.625M at the trade deadline. He'll be a lot cheaper.

In fact...*does guerilla math*...Kreider's AAV at the deadline will be ~$1.019M

 

[redwhiteandblue]

Cap space is re-calculated daily during the season, so Kreider's cap hit isn't actually going to be $4.625M at the trade deadline. He'll be a lot cheaper.

In fact...*does guerilla math*...Kreider's AAV at the deadline will be ~$1.019M

This shit confuses me... so the AAV gets prorated essentially but not their Cap space?

 

[Levitate]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Nichuskin bounce back as a solid 3rd line player with defensive assignments as I recall basically last year when he was on the ice, neither team scored at all, haha

he has some skill, if he can rebound and put in some points while continuing to play good defense he can have some value.

 

[Irishguy42]

This **** confuses me... so the AAV gets prorated essentially but not their Cap space?

Yes, because cap space is accumulated daily.

Here's a better explanation than what I can write: Understanding how a players cap hit is calculated if traded mid year

So, for the 2019-2020 season, since the cap is $81.5M, teams get a "deposit" of ~$438,172 a day. Whatever you don't spend on that day is "banked" for later use, which is how teams can take on bad contracts at the TDL.

Kreider's daily cap hit is ~$24,865. There are 41 days from the TDL (2/24) to the end of the season (4/4). His daily cap hit multiplied by that is ~$1,019M, which would be the cap hit that the team he is traded to takes on.

 

[RangerBoy]

Elliotte needs to keep the beard.



He discusses the numerous restricted free agents. Some teams may just tell their players to sit out the season. There is a December 1 signing deadline. The Leafs and Nylander agreed to a contract at the last minute.

 

[Kupo]

Elliotte needs to keep the beard.

Crazy. I was seconds away from posting the same, exact thing.

If you like my post I’ll return the favor.

Deal?

 

[Kupo]

dumb signing. hes not only entered bust territory, he bought land and built a house on it.

It’s really a no risk signing for Colorado. He’s still just 24 years old and could carve out an NHL career.

Stralman was a bust who figured it out at age 25 with us.

 

[nyr2k2]

It’s really a no risk signing for Colorado. He’s still just 24 years old and could carve out an NHL career.

Stralman was a bust who figured it out at age 25 with us.

Yeah and at that price, they can always bury him at no cap cost. Hell he may even refuse to report if they did that and go back home.

 

[Tawnos]

It’s really a no risk signing for Colorado. He’s still just 24 years old and could carve out an NHL career.

Stralman was a bust who figured it out at age 25 with us.

Does Nich have some physical ailment keeping him from reaching his potential?

 

[NYR94]

Pretty much a no risk signing. Maybe he'll bounce back.

 

[SA16]

He wasn't even that good in the KHL I would not expect much of anything. There's no risk just like there's no risk in signing any of the older guys who will get cheap deals too.

 

[Kupo]

Yeah and at that price, they can always bury him at no cap cost. Hell he may even refuse to report if they did that and go back home.

Exactly. It’s the type of show me deal that is zero risk to the club.

Does Nich have some physical ailment keeping him from reaching his potential?

Yes. His left earlobe has arthritis.

 

[Kupo]

He wasn't even that good in the KHL I would not expect much of anything. There's no risk just like there's no risk in signing any of the older guys who will get cheap deals too.

He’s 24, so unlike older vets there’s longterm potential with him.

Nich has the type of unique potential GM’s salivate for. Size and Skill.

The effect of something simple, like a change of scenery can make a huge difference. Not just for athletes, but every employee.

How many people here have had the same job at different companies where literally, everything was different?

I like this signing for Colorado. And Nich. If we had more space I’d love to see us take advantage of these low risk signings.

 

[SA16]

He’s 24, so unlike older vets there’s longterm potential with him.

Nich has the type of unique potential GM’s salivate for. Size and Skill.

The effect of something simple, like a change of scenery can make a huge difference. Not just for athletes, but every employee.

How many people here have had the same job at different companies where literally, everything was different?

I like this signing for Colorado. And Nich. If we had more space I’d love to see us take advantage of these low risk signings.

I am not sure how much long term potential there is for a guy who just scored 0 goals in his 7th pro season.

 

[offdacrossbar]

He’s 24, so unlike older vets there’s longterm potential with him.

Nich has the type of unique potential GM’s salivate for. Size and Skill.

The effect of something simple, like a change of scenery can make a huge difference. Not just for athletes, but every employee.

How many people here have had the same job at different companies where literally, everything was different?

I like this signing for Colorado. And Nich. If we had more space I’d love to see us take advantage of these low risk signings.

no risk sure i get that.

but the level of bad this guy has been is staggering.

he literally does nothing

dude has 9 goals in his last 144 games. thats beyond bad.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Does Nich have some physical ailment keeping him from reaching his potential?

Pretty sure he had to deal with a significant hip injury

 

[Kupo]

I am not sure how much long term potential there is for a guy who just scored 0 goals in his 7th pro season.

He’s 24 years old. He has like 220 career games. Stop being obtuse.

 

[Kupo]

no risk sure i get that.

but the level of bad this guy has been is staggering.

he literally does nothing

dude has 9 goals in his last 144 games. thats beyond bad.

Strålman got waived by a defenseless Devils team before signing here and making a career for himself.

Fact: Players can turn it around.

At the end of the day this is nothing but potential for Colorado. They literally have nothing to lose.

 

[Fitzy]

I am not sure how much long term potential there is for a guy who just scored 0 goals in his 7th pro season.

This feels like selective picking of statistics to meet a predetermined narrative.

I'm not saying his odds are good, but that's a clear spin that doesn't paint the full picture.

 

[Avery16]

no risk sure i get that.

but the level of bad this guy has been is staggering.

he literally does nothing

dude has 9 goals in his last 144 games. thats beyond bad.

We've signed plenty of guys fitting this description.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Strålman got waived by a defenseless Devils team before signing here and making a career for himself.

Fact: Players can turn it around.

At the end of the day this is nothing but potential for Colorado. They literally have nothing to lose.

Not really waived, but just not signed after his PTO

 

[SA16]

He’s 24 years old. He has like 220 career games. Stop being obtuse.

He's been a professional for 7 years. He's not a first time pro out of college. He scored at a 48 point pace in his two years back in a worse league and then had a horrible season in his return to the NHL. There's nothing showing potential here other than he was a 10th overall pick 6 years ago.