Speculation: Roster Building Thread II (2022-23): The Puck is Prepared to be Mounted

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Our prospect going to jail lol WOAT luck with prospects

Probably covered elsewhere but I am going through the last 5 pages now.

Sýkora is not charged, that's Molnar.

 

[Boris Zubov]

Kane doesn't have a point since the Rangers game. 17 shots on goal in the last three games. The production is not there. One goal at even strength in the last six weeks. 4 lousy goals in 26 games.

You don't need to convince me....You should be directing your reply to the guy who keeps posting daily Kane proposals.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

I think even for me, it seems tantalizing to have Kane and Artemi reunited, but I do agree, he's older now and I just can't see him being the guy to put us over the top. I am much more in the favor of a Meier or Garland deal.

 

[GAGLine]

I think even for me, it seems tantalizing to have Kane and Artemi reunited, but I do agree, he's older now and I just can't see him being the guy to put us over the top. I am much more in the favor of a Meier or Garland deal.

What are we giving up for them and how are we affording them beyond this season?

 

[Taluss]

Yeah Meier would be too much to acquire. Garland is much more reasonable. Cap will be an issue though

 

[haohmaru]

Let's acquire through the draft. We can't afford anything else.

 

[Avery16]

I’d much rather add Tarasenko than Kane, but only if we can sign him to a reasonable extension first and not if it’s going to cost us a blue chip and/or a first. Has to be structured around a salary dump for St. Louis and a discount contract for us to put him on a line with Panarin.

 

[haohmaru]

I’d much rather add Tarasenko than Kane, but only if we can sign him to a reasonable extension first and not if it’s going to cost us a blue chip and/or a first. Has to be structured around a salary dump for St. Louis and a discount contract for us to put him on a line with Panarin.

There's no way we can sign Tarasenko to additional term/extension. Our cap next year is an unmitigated disaster as it is without adding anyone.

 

[Off Sides]

The Rangers don't have much to sell because all of their players are signed long term. Lindgren would be the best candidate if the Rangers were in the sell mode.

I hate rentals.

I agree, for the price it takes to rent, teams would be better off using that trade capital to try to get longer term players.

Lindgren I don't think they should sell. Yet if the trade makes enough sense, who knows.

My post was more about they should probably start to think about what they are going to do this summer with the UFAs and how they are going to manage the cap.

If they are planning on letting Vesey, Blais walk, while also not trying Krav as a replacement for either, they are going to need to replace them. If they are thinking about buying out Goodrow, Renting for just these playoffs does not accomplish that.

I know I am being silly for thinking they might plan for next year instead of focusing just on this year, I guess I am an eternal optimist in that regard.

 

[haohmaru]

The Rangers aren't going to trade their top pair LD for cap, or probably any other, purposes. They are already thin at that position (Hajek/Jones). If there's someone getting shipped out, it's not him.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

I can see the Rangers adding someone like Kulikov as D depth.

Drury seems like a guy who isn't going to go for a splash but a few solid pieces of protein to solidify this roster.

 

[NYR Viper]

How about we try NO RENTALS at all. If they’re trading for someone, look to keep them or have them already under contract moving forward. I doubt Garland will cost much. Vancouver is looking to shed cap and he is redundant. He’s the type of player that would be unique on the Rangers and he plays a position of weakness at RW. He’s also 26.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Depends, a real contender should probably not lose to say Chicago, Anaheim, other teams who are pretty much tanking by management?

We'll see what they do, I've stated that before. It makes a difference if they are consistently beating playoffs teams or not at that time. Last year they mostly were even if imperfect. I thought they had a good deadline in terms of both price and fit. Adding a Kane or whatever to this version as they stand is different so far.

What you do in November and December doesn't mean jack. It's how you're playing in March-April.

The Kings in 2012 half assed most of that regular season, the Blues in 2018-19 were in last place in the league. Other then a few thousand Rangers fans reliving fables of 1994, who remember them losing to the expansion Ducks and Keenan flipping out forcing the Turcotte/Patrick for Larmer/Kypreos deal?

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

How about we try NO RENTALS at all. If they’re trading for someone, look to keep them or have them already under contract moving forward. I doubt Garland will cost much. Vancouver is looking to shed cap and he is redundant. He’s the type of player that would be unique on the Rangers and he plays a position of weakness at RW. He’s also 26.

Everyone does rentals if they're in contention. It's not a Rangers-only thing.

With rentals it's not always going all in, but can you catch lightning in a bottle with one or two right moves and have a deep run?

Remember when Adam Oates became a mercenary the end of his career? The Devils trading for Grabner was another example.

Rangers have some extra picks in this draft and also the 2025 draft. I don't expect fireworks, but I can see a 2nd rounder, and the picks they got from the Jets/Avs/Wild in play.

 

[haohmaru]

Everyone does rentals if they're in contention. It's not a Rangers-only thing.

With rentals it's not always going all in, but can you catch lightning in a bottle with one or two right moves and have a deep run?

Remember when Adam Oates became a mercenary the end of his career? The Devils trading for Grabner was another example.

Rangers have some extra picks in this draft and also the 2025 draft. I don't expect fireworks, but I can see a 2nd rounder, and the picks they got from the Jets/Avs/Wild in play.

Avalanche added four players last year and they were already the deepest team in the league.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Everyone does rentals if they're in contention. It's not a Rangers-only thing.

With rentals it's not always going all in, but can you catch lightning in a bottle with one or two right moves and have a deep run?

Remember when Adam Oates became a mercenary the end of his career? The Devils trading for Grabner was another example.

Rangers have some extra picks in this draft and also the 2025 draft. I don't expect fireworks, but I can see a 2nd rounder, and the picks they got from the Jets/Avs/Wild in play.

There’s rentals and then there’s renting a star.
Copp was a good rental, Kane is not.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Avalanche added four players last year and they were already the deepest team in the league.

Avs last year and the Rangers are in very different places. The Avs last year was more along the lines of late 90s/early 2000s Avs/Det/Dal. They also had a boatload of cap room.

There’s rentals and then there’s renting a star.
Copp was a good rental, Kane is not.

Half this board turned into the "Aktually" guy meme because of it.

Yes, to my earlier post, I'm more along the lines of adding but don't add for headlines, add for substance.

I brought up Kulikov as an example. Josh Leivo from STL. Bonino from SJ. THOSE types of pickups.

 

[xsniper11x]

Hate to keep harping on this because he’s a good player, but all the same issues we have regarding this team: lack of cap, lack of speed, lack of PP opportunity for the kids, lack of consistent chemistry on lines keeps leading me back to the same place. Trading Panarin. Or even Kreider, but given the shorter contract, I think Panarin makes more sense.

Our only Ws with any real speed are 4th liners (Vesey and Gaut) and neither are long term solutions. We have a talented group of players whose skillsets require time and space, neither which are provided by their linemates. The only way to start fixing it is address the cap issue and it’s not a decision that’s going to make most people happy.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Hate to keep harping on this because he’s a good player, but all the same issues we have regarding this team: lack of cap, lack of speed, lack of PP opportunity for the kids, lack of consistent chemistry on lines keeps leading me back to the same place. Trading Panarin. Or even Kreider, but given the shorter contract, I think Panarin makes more sense.

Our only Ws with any real speed are 4th liners (Vesey and Gaut) and neither are long term solutions. We have a talented group of players whose skillsets require time and space, neither which are provided by their linemates. The only way to start fixing it is address the cap issue.

moving panarin is a pipe dream.
It will never actually happen.

 

[Avery16]

How about we try NO RENTALS at all. If they’re trading for someone, look to keep them or have them already under contract moving forward. I doubt Garland will cost much. Vancouver is looking to shed cap and he is redundant. He’s the type of player that would be unique on the Rangers and he plays a position of weakness at RW. He’s also 26.

Some history with Barbashev in the Q

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Hate to keep harping on this because he’s a good player, but all the same issues we have regarding this team: lack of cap, lack of speed, lack of PP opportunity for the kids, lack of consistent chemistry on lines keeps leading me back to the same place. Trading Panarin. Or even Kreider, but given the shorter contract, I think Panarin makes more sense.

Our only Ws with any real speed are 4th liners (Vesey and Gaut) and neither are long term solutions. We have a talented group of players whose skillsets require time and space, neither which are provided by their linemates. The only way to start fixing it is address the cap issue and it’s not a decision that’s going to make most people happy.

Edstrom/Berard/Sykora are all great skaters.

I'm not saying any of them are going to be stars but them becoming contributors increases team speed.

 

[Avery16]

There’s rentals and then there’s renting a star.
Copp was a good rental, Kane is not.

I’d rather have Barron on our 3rd line and Brad Lambert, Salomonsson on the horizon than what Copp did for us over the 3 months he was here before splitting for the $.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

I’d rather have Barron on our 3rd line and Brad Lambert, Salomonsson on the horizon than what Copp did for us over the 3 months he was here before splitting for the $.

There are young players Gallant just doesn't like; Barron, Jones, Kravstov.

 

[Avery16]

There are young players Gallant just doesn't like; Barron, Jones, Kravstov.

I'm over Gallant. Elevating the kids has bought him time. If he doesn't learn from that, we all lose.

 

[jerseyjinx94]

I feel like every single coach I have issues with. So maybe it’s just me complaining eventually like I do with every coach, but I’m really fed up with Gallant.

I’m hate his press conferences. I hate his lineup decisions. I don’t think he has any tactical strengths, he’s not particularly adept at in-game adjustments. I don’t really know what he brings other than an old school, get your nose dirty attitude, which frankly, the players should have themselves.

It’s criminal that Jones and Kravtsov are not staples in the lineup developing. It would be somewhat understandable if better players were blocking them, but it’s not the case. Hajek has been fine but Jones is a possible long term solution and he hasn’t been that bad. Kravtsov has some warts but he’s 22 and a top 10 pick, we need to extract value out of him whether it’s as a top 6 F or trade bait. Instead we have Sammy Blais doing absolutely nothing and Libor Hajek who could/would have been waived by almost every other team in the league. And I actually like Hajek more than most. I just don’t get it at all and it’s extremely frustrating to think we may lose those two for below market because the coach is stubborn. It’s a serious problem.