Speculation: Roster Building Thread II (2022-23): The Puck is Prepared to be Mounted

[NYR Viper]

so he can frustrate Rangers fans. He is awful

He's not awful and he would be a low-cost good addition to the top-9. Guy needs a new start but his possession stats have always been solid and he plays a good 2-way game.

 

[Mac n Gs]

Wonder if we could do some kind of a prospect swap with Nashville for that Tomasino guy? Seems to be blocked or in their doghouse...

This is the way. Dru it!

 

[RGY]

He's not awful and he would be a low-cost good addition to the top-9. Guy needs a new start but his possession stats have always been solid and he plays a good 2-way game.

We do not need Puljujarvi. The time to take a flyer on him was 1-2 years ago. We have our own reclamation project in the works and his name is Julien Gauthier.

Puljujarvi stat line: 45GP 4-6-10 with avg TOI of 12:49 & a -13

Gauthier stat line: 32GP 6-3-9 with avg TOI of 8:29 & a -2

We already have that guy who we are hoping can take off because you see signs of the potential in house. We don’t have room for two on a competing hockey team. Gauthier has outperformed him.

 

[gravey9]

If it ever made sense to trade for Meier it means you have to have a plan to move Panarin and or Trouba. Panarin is the only logical choice.but moving Panarin is not easy and we are likely having to take quarters on the dollar.

To me, if I’m the GM looking at the roster for the next few years, there are a few observations:

1. Schneider is likely ready come next season for a bigger role. Trouba makes 8m… I think it’s something you have to look at. Schneider looks great against the faster teams too.

2. Panarin makes 11.6 and has little to no chemistry with anyone not named Adam Fox and weirdly Braden Schneider. And he’s not allowed a single young forward to flourish on his line. Not one. Problem is, he makes 11.6. At that salary he actually needs to play well with a young cheap forward because they can’t afford to ice a full contending team without that financial aspect working out. He needs to work with a kid or two. But he’s not. He may need to go for the long term success of the team. As special as he is. Furthermore, seeing Laffy on PP1 and Kakko and Miller on PP2 is leading me to believe the Rangers
need to figure out how to get those guys legit PP time moving forward. That’s simply not possible with Panarin on PP1. It’s not fair or tenable for the team to keep those young talented kids off the PP for much longer. Long term, it’s playing with fire I think because those kids are literally sacrificing millions at some point by not getting those opportunities it’s okay on their ELCs but as they get to their first RFA years and beyond, getting those opportunities are at the center of those negotiations.

Finally, re: PP. In the 90s, Leetch played the whole 2 min or close to it. He often stayed on with both units. I think if Panarin goes, I’d like Rangers to deploy their 2 units more evenly and let Foxy stay out there longer. 2nd unit should have 2 D. Miller or Schneider can join Fox. But really the extended shifts for PP1 have a lot to do with Panarin in addition to Fox. It back to the original point: I think Panarins time as a Ranger may come to an end this summer. I don’t think it’s tenable financially. And the chemistry issue is at the core issue. In that context I could see why Meier could make sense, but pulling that off is very tricky. Very. And might be too costly asset wise. That said if the Rangers could shed Panarins 11.6 and sign Meier for 9, then suddenly you have 2.6 to sign Laffy or bump Chytil up to 4.5. With emergence of Miller and Chytil and Schneider you may have no other choice but to move Bread.

3. Trouba. Schneider has emerged far quicker than perhaps expected. Can he handle top 4 min and matchups? I don’t know. But by next season he is likely going to be ready for more responsibility. If he’s paired with Lindgren or Miller I think he’d kick take off even more. But his emergence brings us back to trouba. It’s clear that the Rangers can’t keep paying him 8m if they have a far cheaper capable top 4 RD option. I don’t know when the bough breaks but it’s possible as early as this summer. Def by summer of 24. Trouba would need to be dealt and we’d need to find a good bottom pairing RD. The farm system is kinda empty of options on the right. Emberson? That’s…it.

Speaking of the bottom pair…. Next training camp, both Robertson and Scanlin will likely get an extended look. Scanlin to me has a legit chance to pass Robertson as bottom pair option. He plays the exact style Gallant and most coaches want in that bottom pair role.

All this to say… I think this summer is likely going to be all about the Rangers betting on an updated core. Not so much working on the fringes of it. They are going to have to bet on Miller, Fox, Shesty, Kakko, Chytil, Schneider - with Zibby/Kreider. Big questions on Laf and Krav. And maybe they bring in another power forward if Bread goes.

I don’t think they’ll look to move Goody and Lindy or other smaller contracts that are super valuable to the identity of the team. I think Bread is the most likely to go. Trouba may not be too far behind.

 

[McRanger92]

I have that as a maybe. Do you think Lafrenière's camp are ok with a 2 x 2.5m bridge deal for a 1OA? Miller will get paid, Chytil will get paid, then there's Kakko and Schneider coming up again a year later and if they keep the pace in their growth they will get paid too.

It would not shock me in the slightest if Laf and his agents are trying to get him to Montreal, or just Canada in general. He's got competition from in front and behind on the wings, and he doesnt look comfortable here. I think he makes it through the year a Ranger because it's asinine to trade him for a rental, but in the offseason it may be something both sides are amenable with.

Hopefully he goes off in the second half and it's a moot point, but Im reading the tea leaves. On a related note, Valiquette was on Staple's podcast talking about the Laf situation. Some good perspective.

 

[McRanger92]

If it ever made sense to trade for Meier it means you have to have a plan to move Panarin and or Trouba. Panarin is the only logical choice.but moving Panarin is not easy and we are likely having to take quarters on the dollar.

To me, if I’m the GM looking at the roster for the next few years, there are a few observations:

1. Schneider is likely ready come next season for a bigger role. Trouba makes 8m… I think it’s something you have to look at. Schneider looks great against the faster teams too.

2. Panarin makes 11.6 and has little to no chemistry with anyone not named Adam Fox and weirdly Braden Schneider. And he’s not allowed a single young forward to flourish on his line. Not one. Problem is, he makes 11.6. At that salary he actually needs to play well with a young cheap forward because they can’t afford to ice a full contending team without that financial aspect working out. He needs to work with a kid or two. But he’s not. He may need to go for the long term success of the team. As special as he is. Furthermore, seeing Laffy on PP1 and Kakko and Miller on PP2 is leading me to believe the Rangers
need to figure out how to get those guys legit PP time moving forward. That’s simply not possible with Panarin on PP1. It’s not fair or tenable for the team to keep those young talented kids off the PP for much longer. Long term, it’s playing with fire I think because those kids are literally sacrificing millions at some point by not getting those opportunities it’s okay on their ELCs but as they get to their first RFA years and beyond, getting those opportunities are at the center of those negotiations.

Finally, re: PP. In the 90s, Leetch played the whole 2 min or close to it. He often stayed on with both units. I think if Panarin goes, I’d like Rangers to deploy their 2 units more evenly and let Foxy stay out there longer. 2nd unit should have 2 D. Miller or Schneider can join Fox. But really the extended shifts for PP1 have a lot to do with Panarin in addition to Fox. It back to the original point: I think Panarins time as a Ranger may come to an end this summer. I don’t think it’s tenable financially. And the chemistry issue is at the core issue. In that context I could see why Meier could make sense, but pulling that off is very tricky. Very. And might be too costly asset wise. That said if the Rangers could shed Panarins 11.6 and sign Meier for 9, then suddenly you have 2.6 to sign Laffy or bump Chytil up to 4.5. With emergence of Miller and Chytil and Schneider you may have no other choice but to move Bread.

3. Trouba. Schneider has emerged far quicker than perhaps expected. Can he handle top 4 min and matchups? I don’t know. But by next season he is likely going to be ready for more responsibility. If he’s paired with Lindgren or Miller I think he’d kick take off even more. But his emergence brings us back to trouba. It’s clear that the Rangers can’t keep paying him 8m if they have a far cheaper capable top 4 RD option. I don’t know when the bough breaks but it’s possible as early as this summer. Def by summer of 24. Trouba would need to be dealt and we’d need to find a good bottom pairing RD. The farm system is kinda empty of options on the right. Emberson? That’s…it.

Speaking of the bottom pair…. Next training camp, both Robertson and Scanlin will likely get an extended look. Scanlin to me has a legit chance to pass Robertson as bottom pair option. He plays the exact style Gallant and most coaches want in that bottom pair role.

All this to say… I think this summer is likely going to be all about the Rangers betting on an updated core. Not so much working on the fringes of it. They are going to have to bet on Miller, Fox, Shesty, Kakko, Chytil, Schneider - with Zibby/Kreider. Big questions on Laf and Krav. And maybe they bring in another power forward if Bread goes.

I don’t think they’ll look to move Goody and Lindy or other smaller contracts that are super valuable to the identity of the team. I think Bread is the most likely to go. Trouba may not be too far behind.

Excellent State of the Rangers here.

Not much to add beyond the fact that when we talk about the Kids on the PP, and new contracts coming and expanded roles, etc., I really wonder how much a guy like Chytil is looking to sign here longer term. Yes he has been with the Rangers organization his whole career and theyve worked together well to make him an emerging player. However, he and his agent certainly see the Mika & Trocheck are going nowhere, and Lafreniere now getting undeserved minutes on the PP and top 6 over him. Chytil is a guy who is constantly calling for the puck and looking to shoot on a team that refuses to most cases. They should be playing him more, as he is probably their 4th best offensive forward. right now. He may not give them a break on some UFA years if their plan is to continuing to give him 3rd line minutes and minimal PP time. Just something I've thought about recently.

 

[irishlaxburger2]

Excellent State of the Rangers here.

Not much to add beyond the fact that when we talk about the Kids on the PP, and new contracts coming and expanded roles, etc., I really wonder how much a guy like Chytil is looking to sign here longer term. Yes he has been with the Rangers organization his whole career and theyve worked together well to make him an emerging player. However, he and his agent certainly see the Mika & Trocheck are going nowhere, and Lafreniere now getting undeserved minutes on the PP and top 6 over him. Chytil is a guy who is constantly calling for the puck and looking to shoot on a team that refuses to most cases. They should be playing him more, as he is probably their 4th best offensive forward. right now. He may not give them a break on some UFA years if their plan is to continuing to give him 3rd line minutes and minimal PP time. Just something I've thought about recently.

They need to start playing him at 2C when the lines need a shuffle. Trocheck seemingly always gets the benefit of the doubt, even when he or his line aren't playing well. Then you have Goodrow who also randomly gets moved up the lineup when Gallant feels the need to make changes.

Stapling Chytil to the 3rd line is not the answer. I'm not saying making him full time 2C is either. But when shuffles happen, part of that needs to come with him getting top 6 minutes and linemates. Because if the Rangers can basically offer him being 2.5C flip flopping with Trocheck moving forward, that might be enticing enough to keep him around long-term.

 

[NYR Viper]

We do not need Puljujarvi. The time to take a flyer on him was 1-2 years ago. We have our own reclamation project in the works and his name is Julien Gauthier.

Puljujarvi stat line: 45GP 4-6-10 with avg TOI of 12:49 & a -13

Gauthier stat line: 32GP 6-3-9 with avg TOI of 8:29 & a -2

We already have that guy who we are hoping can take off because you see signs of the potential in house. We don’t have room for two on a competing hockey team. Gauthier has outperformed him.

this is a bit disingenuous (and I like Gauthier)

Puljujaarvi over the last 3 years
20-21
25 points in 55 games
EV CF% rel of 6.2


21-22
36 points in 64 games
EV CF% rel of 9.3

22-23
10 points in 45 games
EV CF% rel of 2.5


Gauthier over the last 3 years
20-21
8 points in 30 games
EV CF% rel of -2.1


21-22
7 points in 49 games
EV CF% rel of -0.8

22-23
9 points in 32 games
EV CF% rel of -5.8

 

[bhamill]

Excellent State of the Rangers here.

Not much to add beyond the fact that when we talk about the Kids on the PP, and new contracts coming and expanded roles, etc., I really wonder how much a guy like Chytil is looking to sign here longer term. Yes he has been with the Rangers organization his whole career and theyve worked together well to make him an emerging player. However, he and his agent certainly see the Mika & Trocheck are going nowhere, and Lafreniere now getting undeserved minutes on the PP and top 6 over him. Chytil is a guy who is constantly calling for the puck and looking to shoot on a team that refuses to most cases. They should be playing him more, as he is probably their 4th best offensive forward. right now. He may not give them a break on some UFA years if their plan is to continuing to give him 3rd line minutes and minimal PP time. Just something I've thought about recently.

I don’t think top 6 Laf is an issue for Chytil, esp since Chytil is a center who they wouldn’t just plug in at wing. Besides Kreider is coming back.
I also wouldn’t be surprised if next year, or even this year, Chytil is getting 2C minutes.
I think they need to get PP2/Chytil on earlier and, like others, think Fox should just quarterback the whole 2 min.

 

[Avery16]

They need to start playing him at 2C when the lines need a shuffle. Trocheck seemingly always gets the benefit of the doubt, even when he or his line aren't playing well. Then you have Goodrow who also randomly gets moved up the lineup when Gallant feels the need to make changes.

Stapling Chytil to the 3rd line is not the answer. I'm not saying making him full time 2C is either. But when shuffles happen, part of that needs to come with him getting top 6 minutes and linemates. Because if the Rangers can basically offer him being 2.5C flip flopping with Trocheck moving forward, that might be enticing enough to keep him around long-term.

I think more important than his line is who is on that line with him. I groan every time I see him slotted with Goodrow, Vesey or both. Chytil should be with some combination of Panarin, Kakko, Laf and Kravtsov.

 

[GAGLine]

It would not shock me in the slightest if Laf and his agents are trying to get him to Montreal, or just Canada in general. He's got competition from in front and behind on the wings, and he doesnt look comfortable here. I think he makes it through the year a Ranger because it's asinine to trade him for a rental, but in the offseason it may be something both sides are amenable with.

Hopefully he goes off in the second half and it's a moot point, but Im reading the tea leaves. On a related note, Valiquette was on Staple's podcast talking about the Laf situation. Some good perspective.

I can't imagine Laf wanting anything to do with Montreal. Whatever pressure he feels here, it will be 100 fold there. And the other Canadian cities wouldn't be much better.

He needs to find his groove again. He'll get there.

 

[SA16]

this is a bit disingenuous (and I like Gauthier)

Puljujaarvi over the last 3 years
20-21
25 points in 55 games
EV CF% rel of 6.2


21-22
36 points in 64 games
EV CF% rel of 9.3

22-23
10 points in 45 games
EV CF% rel of 2.5


Gauthier over the last 3 years
20-21
8 points in 30 games
EV CF% rel of -2.1


21-22
7 points in 49 games
EV CF% rel of -0.8

22-23
9 points in 32 games
EV CF% rel of -5.8

Comparing their points is also disingenuous considering in that time period 1,592 out of 2,203 of his 5v5 minutes have come with either McDavid, Draisaitl, or both of them.

 

[MrAlmost]

If it ever made sense to trade for Meier it means you have to have a plan to move Panarin and or Trouba. Panarin is the only logical choice.but moving Panarin is not easy and we are likely having to take quarters on the dollar.

To me, if I’m the GM looking at the roster for the next few years, there are a few observations:

1. Schneider is likely ready come next season for a bigger role. Trouba makes 8m… I think it’s something you have to look at. Schneider looks great against the faster teams too.

2. Panarin makes 11.6 and has little to no chemistry with anyone not named Adam Fox and weirdly Braden Schneider. And he’s not allowed a single young forward to flourish on his line. Not one. Problem is, he makes 11.6. At that salary he actually needs to play well with a young cheap forward because they can’t afford to ice a full contending team without that financial aspect working out. He needs to work with a kid or two. But he’s not. He may need to go for the long term success of the team. As special as he is. Furthermore, seeing Laffy on PP1 and Kakko and Miller on PP2 is leading me to believe the Rangers
need to figure out how to get those guys legit PP time moving forward. That’s simply not possible with Panarin on PP1. It’s not fair or tenable for the team to keep those young talented kids off the PP for much longer. Long term, it’s playing with fire I think because those kids are literally sacrificing millions at some point by not getting those opportunities it’s okay on their ELCs but as they get to their first RFA years and beyond, getting those opportunities are at the center of those negotiations.

Finally, re: PP. In the 90s, Leetch played the whole 2 min or close to it. He often stayed on with both units. I think if Panarin goes, I’d like Rangers to deploy their 2 units more evenly and let Foxy stay out there longer. 2nd unit should have 2 D. Miller or Schneider can join Fox. But really the extended shifts for PP1 have a lot to do with Panarin in addition to Fox. It back to the original point: I think Panarins time as a Ranger may come to an end this summer. I don’t think it’s tenable financially. And the chemistry issue is at the core issue. In that context I could see why Meier could make sense, but pulling that off is very tricky. Very. And might be too costly asset wise. That said if the Rangers could shed Panarins 11.6 and sign Meier for 9, then suddenly you have 2.6 to sign Laffy or bump Chytil up to 4.5. With emergence of Miller and Chytil and Schneider you may have no other choice but to move Bread.

3. Trouba. Schneider has emerged far quicker than perhaps expected. Can he handle top 4 min and matchups? I don’t know. But by next season he is likely going to be ready for more responsibility. If he’s paired with Lindgren or Miller I think he’d kick take off even more. But his emergence brings us back to trouba. It’s clear that the Rangers can’t keep paying him 8m if they have a far cheaper capable top 4 RD option. I don’t know when the bough breaks but it’s possible as early as this summer. Def by summer of 24. Trouba would need to be dealt and we’d need to find a good bottom pairing RD. The farm system is kinda empty of options on the right. Emberson? That’s…it.

Speaking of the bottom pair…. Next training camp, both Robertson and Scanlin will likely get an extended look. Scanlin to me has a legit chance to pass Robertson as bottom pair option. He plays the exact style Gallant and most coaches want in that bottom pair role.

All this to say… I think this summer is likely going to be all about the Rangers betting on an updated core. Not so much working on the fringes of it. They are going to have to bet on Miller, Fox, Shesty, Kakko, Chytil, Schneider - with Zibby/Kreider. Big questions on Laf and Krav. And maybe they bring in another power forward if Bread goes.

I don’t think they’ll look to move Goody and Lindy or other smaller contracts that are super valuable to the identity of the team. I think Bread is the most likely to go. Trouba may not be too far behind.

Great post.

The answer is Panarin. While Schneider may be improving and ready for more time, why rush it when he has another year on his ELC. Weakening the RD where there aren't any surefire options in the Org to come up makes no sense when it isnt like Schneider needs a new contract. Trouba plays well with Miller and Schneider is playing well with Harpur. Speaking of, we should give Harpur the Vesey contract.

In an almost completely opposite situation, Panarin is refusing to excel or be the catalyst he needs to be with our very good options this team has provided him and there is Laf behind him who needs more time and Othmann just behind that who plays a type of way I am sure is going to make him a popular guy in short order. Laf didn't score the last few games, but he has made smart plays on the powerplay to keep the puck alive and made good area passes that Kreider often plays too hard. Laf replacing Panarin on PP1 and Kreider back to his spot gives you 3 shooting threats up high, the net front, and the slot.

You can only watch Panarin pull up at the half wall and have a shitty pass get intercepted so many times before you ask yourself, is 11.6 worth it? I say no. That is money to sign Miller long term, give Chytil an extension and pay the depth likely received in the trade itself. The team as a whole from the top to the bottom would be more dangerous and just simply harder to score on.

Looking past that stuff, Drury has made it very clear the types of players he likes and thinks can help the team win. I don't see how he would reduce the leadership, playoff experience, toughness, speed and aggressiveness of the team by trading the likes of Goodrow, Torcheck, Trouba, and Kreider to keep the player that isn't in that mold. And of those 4, only 1 is overpaid in my opinion and its Trouba. He has looked better, but playing through an injury gave his haters fuel. He was absolutely lights out all year last year and that's what he can be for this team. He is the closest thing in this NHL to Scott Stevens. I'd like to keep that guy.

 

[McRanger92]

I can't imagine Laf wanting anything to do with Montreal. Whatever pressure he feels here, it will be 100 fold there. And the other Canadian cities wouldn't be much better.

He needs to find his groove again. He'll get there.

I dont necessarily agree with that. He's a foreign kid in the biggest market in the US playing for a team trying to win a Cup. I think he'd feel less pressure speaking his native language in his hometown on a team that has a timeline that better fits his development

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Don’t think that the NYR will want to rock the boat too much for TDL.

Maata/5th for Hajek/2nd

Domi/5th for Berard/2nd

 

[McRanger92]

Don’t think that the NYR will want to rock the boat too much for TDL.

Maata/5th for Hajek/2nd

Domi/5th for Berard/2nd

Have not seen much of Maatta, but I like that he's got playoff experience, cheap and a lefty. Red Wings have a few guys who could help us (Erne, Bertuzzi, Larkin if youre feeling frisky)

I dont get the obsession with Domi. I know he gets the rep as a pest who can play but he is useless every time I watch him. To trade Berard and a high pick for him would be disastrous

 

[PANARIN BREAD FAN]

it's really really a shame. is the front office to blame? did they phuck up?

this really should be the team:

kreider-zib-buchnevich
bread-copp-strome
laff-chytil-kakko
gautier-brods-goodrow

there had to have been some kind of legal cap crap way to keep all these guys here.

 

[tomobson]

I'd be down to try a line of Panarin/Trocheck/Chytil. If it works then trading for a third liner will be a lot cheaper than trading for a true top six right wing. Trocheck is too good of an actual center to not have him in the top six imo. Chytil is pretty good in his own zone nowadays as well and gives Panarin a shooting threat.

 

[nsvoyageurs]

I can't imagine Laf wanting anything to do with Montreal. Whatever pressure he feels here, it will be 100 fold there. And the other Canadian cities wouldn't be much better.

He needs to find his groove again. He'll get there.

Many Quebec-born players do not want to play in Montreal and for that reason. The scrutiny there is at least 100 times worse for French Quebecois than it is in New York.

He can find his mojo; he just needs confidence and be used properly. Take the offseason seriously to work on his game. Still need some patience.

 

[McRanger92]

it's really really a shame. is the front office to blame? did they phuck up?

this really should be the team:

kreider-zib-buchnevich
bread-copp-strome
laff-chytil-kakko
gautier-brods-goodrow

there had to have been some kind of legal cap crap way to keep all these guys here.

You lost me at Copp & Strome. Theres also no way this would fit under the cap

 

[Fitzy]

What do you know- there is exactly one poster here who thinks we should have kept Copp

 

[gravey9]

They need to start playing him at 2C when the lines need a shuffle. Trocheck seemingly always gets the benefit of the doubt, even when he or his line aren't playing well. Then you have Goodrow who also randomly gets moved up the lineup when Gallant feels the need to make changes.

Stapling Chytil to the 3rd line is not the answer. I'm not saying making him full time 2C is either. But when shuffles happen, part of that needs to come with him getting top 6 minutes and linemates. Because if the Rangers can basically offer him being 2.5C flip flopping with Trocheck moving forward, that might be enticing enough to keep him around long-term.

These are the things holding Chytil back from being a legit 2C.

1. Faceoffs. Needs to get better. He has the hands, the size, the strength. It's technique and effort.

2. D-zone Coverage. He's very inconsistent with this. And when he's on a line with the Panarins of the world, it becomes magnified. He tends to float, cheat and puck watch too much. Needs to mark his men and take them out of the play in front.

3. Injuries. Every time he gets on a roll, he ends up getting banged up. Being in teh lineup consistently will allow him to stabilize his linemates.

4. Panarin. It's not specific to Chytil. But I would say most of the Rangers young players are better N/S players than E/W. Or at least they're being asked to play that way. Chytil's game is def N/S. It's all about speed. But beyond that, Chytil has shown very good chemistry with Goody and Vesey at times. And now Kravy. They just tend to go in the same direction and it's easier for them to read off each other. Also played well with Kakko, Kreider and likely would be good with Tro. So, I don't mind if he's not playing with the team's most offensive players. He's been very effective on that third line. They tend to dominate some of those matchups.

 

[GAGLine]

I dont necessarily agree with that. He's a foreign kid in the biggest market in the US playing for a team trying to win a Cup. I think he'd feel less pressure speaking his native language in his hometown on a team that has a timeline that better fits his development

Montreal is obsessed with French Canadian players. From the moment the Rangers won the lottery, Montreal fans have been making proposals to get him. And the media in Montreal and Toronto can be brutal regardless of where the player is from. Put those 2 things together and the pressure on him to perform would probably break him.

Many Quebec-born players do not want to play in Montreal and for that reason. The scrutiny there is at least 100 times worse for French Quebecois than it is in New York.

He can find his mojo; he just needs confidence and be used properly. Take the offseason seriously to work on his game. Still need some patience.

Exactly.

 

[PANARIN BREAD FAN]

What do you know- there is exactly one poster here who thinks we should have kept Copp

only one poster? c'mon - i strongly doubt that.

 

[McRanger92]

only one poster? c'mon - i strongly doubt that.

Copp is a 3rd liner who got paid like a second liner because he had a good 3 weeks with Panarin until he got hurt down the stretch and was a shell of himself. Trocheck is a much better player in every way.

And I like Copp!