Speculation: Roster Building Thread II (2022-23): The Puck is Prepared to be Mounted

[PuckLuck3043]

we do need a defenseman that can provide more offense than the blackholes that are Trouba and Lindgren. KAM is coming along.

The future is....
KAM Fox
Chychrun Schneider

embrace it

How many points do you think other team's Dmen score exactly? Every Dman on this team, other than Harpur, has double digit points. Trouba and Lindgren have 13 apiece. If I'm not mistaken the Rangers defense scores more than most teams. No Chychrun if it means no Lindgren.

 

[duhmetreE]

How many points do you think other team's Dmen score exactly? Every Dman on this team, other than Harpur, has double digit points. Trouba and Lindgren have 13 apiece. If I'm not mistaken the Rangers defense scores more than most teams. No Chychrun if it means no Lindgren.

They both can happen.

 

[RGY]

Chychrun would be a huge mistake given the cost to acquire. He wouldnt get PP1 minutes here. Not this year, more than likely not next year, maybe in 2024-2025 when Kreider might be gone or relegated. But even then the Rangers PP strategy centers around Zibanejad with Fox at the top. Coaches could change and even players could, but those two are here for the foreseeable future — and having a D on the opposite half wall likely doesnt make sense, at that point it should be Kakko. We are going to have to pay an exorbitant amount for a guy who won’t get full use here.

The assets can be better distributed to fill out multiple needs at this deadline. Better yet, they should hold onto at least 1 of the 2023 1sts, if not both, and try to dangle the 2024 1st for the top 6 forward they want, 2nds and/or 3rds for RoR, and 4ths for a depth D like Kulikov/Braun/etc. Or even use assets to pay a lesser price for a similarly capable puck moving defenseman but of lesser ability than Chychrun.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

They both can happen.

I'm fine with that. I agree with you that we need more depth at D. A healthy Chychrun added to what we already have would be outstanding. The injury history and assets that we would have to give up are what people are concerned about and rightly so.

 

[UnSandvich]

This is my team post deadline

Kreider Zibs Kakko
Panarin Tro Kravtsov
Laffy Chytil Gauthier
Motte Goodrow Vesey

Chychrun Fox
KAM Trouba -
Lindgren Schneider


Chychrun, a unit that can skate and not suck offensively.
Trouba off of PP2. MASSIVE W
Think about how fresh our defenders can be; instead of gassing out like last season
Motte because why not? +PK +Speed +Tenacity +Memes
If Trouba doesn't get his head out of his ass, I really would like to see Schneider get some more time/looks.

why would you say no to that?

Because i don't think Chychrun > Lindgren+pieces given up to get Chychrun

 

[huerter]

If you are actively trying to split up Fox and Lindgren then we are not the same species.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Ideally the Rangers go grab two forwards and LD at the deadline

Get a middle six winger (Barbashev, Tarasenko etc), Get a bottom six winger (Erne, Sundqvist, Motte) and a LD (Maatta)

They should also move Blais and Hajek although I imagine Hajek would stick around for defensive depth once the playoffs hit

Something like
Kreider-Mika-Kakko
Panarin-Trocheck-Kravstov
Laf-Chytil-Barbashev
Vesey-Goodrow-Sundqvist
Gauthier/Brod as spares

Lindy-Fox
Miller-Trouba
Maatta-Schneider

Looks good to me

 

[RGY]

Ideally the Rangers go grab two forwards and LD at the deadline

Get a middle six winger (Barbashev, Tarasenko etc), Get a bottom six winger (Erne, Sundqvist, Motte) and a LD (Maatta)

They should also move Blais and Hajek although I imagine Hajek would stick around for defensive depth once the playoffs hit

Something like
Kreider-Mika-Kakko
Panarin-Trocheck-Kravstov
Laf-Chytil-Barbashev
Vesey-Goodrow-Sundqvist
Gauthier/Brod as spares

Lindy-Fox
Miller-Trouba
Maatta-Schneider

Looks good to me

I see Harpur as being the 7th D in the playoffs. Not that I prefer him, but Gallant does.

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

I see Harpur as being the 7th D in the playoffs. Not that I prefer him, but Gallant does.

Yet lately Harpur's game lately has enabled Schnieder to break out

 

[RangersFan1994]

Yet lately Harpur's game lately has enabled Schnieder to break out

Harpur has been surprisingly good.. maybe another Jason Strudwick type. He does have some grit to his game. Hope he shows that vs the Devils tomorrow night.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Top 4 players Rangers should trade for at the deadline

Domi
McCabe
Mikkola
Barbashev

all bring skill, some scoring, some physical play and some defensive play

 

[bl02]

Top 4 players Rangers should trade for at the deadline

Domi
McCabe
Mikkola
Barbashev

all bring skill, some scoring, some physical play and some defensive play

I would pass on Domi.
Barbashev could be a good add but why would St. Louis want to get rid of him?

 

[huerter]

If you want to know why Krav isn't in the postseason plans, don't blame Gallant. Just reference the play against Montreal where Trouba walked the puck down from the point and was begging for Krav to be strong in the crease and present an option at the back post. It's an elementary play. Krav was just loitering.

 

[RangersFan1994]

I would pass on Domi.
Barbashev could be a good add but why would St. Louis want to get rid of him?

UFA and would want to get something rather than risk losing him for nothing.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I would pass on Domi.
Barbashev could be a good add but why would St. Louis want to get rid of him?

I think he’s a UFA to be.

 

[bobbop]

Crouse would be nice

Crouse is not the guy a lot of you think he is. Not a banger. More like a Taylor Pyatt type.

 

[bl02]

UFA and would want to get something rather than risk losing him for nothing.

Gotcha so a pure rental. Obviously would depend on the cost. If Drury could pull off a value deal like the one he pulled off with Motte and Vatrano it's a no brainer. But I think Barbashev would cost a bit more since he's more productive than motte and Vatrano was a cap clearing move that opened up a few bucks for the Panthers

 

[RangersFan1994]

Carouse is not the guy a lot of you think he is. Not a banger. More like a Taylor Pyatt type.

Crouse is too expensive for the Rangers.

Crouse is more physical than Pyatt ever was.

would be a good option if he was cheaper

 

[JohnC]

Tbh the Rangers were a softer team BEFORE the Reaves trade than they have been after.

Calling them soft is an idiot’s hot take.

 

[McRanger92]

Chychrun would be a huge mistake given the cost to acquire. He wouldnt get PP1 minutes here. Not this year, more than likely not next year, maybe in 2024-2025 when Kreider might be gone or relegated. But even then the Rangers PP strategy centers around Zibanejad with Fox at the top. Coaches could change and even players could, but those two are here for the foreseeable future — and having a D on the opposite half wall likely doesnt make sense, at that point it should be Kakko. We are going to have to pay an exorbitant amount for a guy who won’t get full use here.

The assets can be better distributed to fill out multiple needs at this deadline. Better yet, they should hold onto at least 1 of the 2023 1sts, if not both, and try to dangle the 2024 1st for the top 6 forward they want, 2nds and/or 3rds for RoR, and 4ths for a depth D like Kulikov/Braun/etc. Or even use assets to pay a lesser price for a similarly capable puck moving defenseman but of lesser ability than Chychrun.

He doesn’t play on the top PP at Arizona State, Ghost Bear does. He’s nearly a PPG player at ES. He also has 2 more years of control after this. He’s a HFNYR pipe dream. So obviously no one wants to trade anything for him

 

[Alluckks]

Kreider had never scored more than 28 goals in his career. Last year, under this coaching staff and regime, he scored 52 goals which is the 8th most among active players for a single season ALL TIME (and Ovechkin accounts for 4 of the top 7 remaining there). I know that there have been plenty of well argued trifles about development of young forward scoring, but the glaring evidence is right there of an organization that can figure out how to get a player to score a shit ton of goals.

Chytil is currently on a pace of 28 in 82.

 

[RangerBoy]

In the hypothetical scenario we trade for Chychrun, we keep Lindgren too. The money works. I know everyone thinks its the end of the world but it's not.

In 2024 they can trade Trouba and re-sign Lindgren. Looking too far ahead is futile though imo. So much can change.

All I see is the best defensive group in the league for 3 playoff runs. Chychrun Fox even looks good in writing. If the forwards play up to their abilities and Shesty is Shesty, how do we not like our chances?

I think it's the best of all worlds. You still hold onto one 2023 1st rounder. Have all your kids still developing on cheaper bridge deals/ELCs. Vets still in their prime. and Igor on a 5.6M contract.

The time is now.

Go convince Bill Armstrong to make the proposed trade.

 

[RangerBoy]

Can Nick Ritchie play RW? The Rangers had serious interest in signing him before going to the Leafs. Larry Brooks reported that but Ritchie decided to sign with the Leafs. Ritchie is the big body for the playoffs. Expiring contract.

 

[RGY]

He doesn’t play on the top PP at Arizona State, Ghost Bear does. He’s nearly a PPG player at ES. He also has 2 more years of control after this. He’s a HFNYR pipe dream. So obviously no one wants to trade anything for him

The point is the cost to acquire is too damn much when his value wouldn’t be maximized here because he wouldn’t be getting the extra PP1 time, regardless of the PP1 time he doesnt get in Arizona. They are asking for a fortune. The assets can be better spent filling multiple needs. The team is looking to compete for a cup, whether some here like or believe that, that is the team’s intentions. They need to add multiple pieces at the deadline.

 

[pld459666]

if we're soft wtf were the avs?
Or pittsburg?

The notion that you win the stanley cup by being nothing but grinders is an extremely outdated notion.
You win by having guys who can play in the corners and win battles. The battles are just tougher in the playoffs.

Not having guys in your top 6 that are not only capable of winning battles, but are WILLING to initiate said battles is what makes this team soft.

They rather poke around with their sticks and refuse to separate player from puck with their bodies.

It's not about having grinders up and down the line up, it's about playing with a level of intensity and urgency and purpose that our top guys seem to lack. Playing a stiff game, a game where the opposition doesn't look forward to playing.

The Rangers are an easy team to play against and have been for far to long. Under Gallant, Quinn and AV before that.

Disagree. We have guys like Goodrow, Trouba, Lindgren, Blais, Kreider, and Trocheck, who can play with an edge. Laf does it sometimes as well. I actually think most games the Rangers are the more physical team so no, I don't see your point. Oh and Brooks is a hack so I never pay attention to what he says anyway.

Trocheck has an edge, Kreider? That edge is dull AF.

We need more of that edge that Trocheck has in more than just 3-4 players.

It has to be a team identity.