Speculation: Roster Building Thread II (2022-23): The Puck is Prepared to be Mounted

[Guyute]

Not saying I want this but if you forced the high end rental route on me, I'd rather have ROR than Kane for the playoffs. ROR eats the tough minutes against Jordan Staal, Crosby, Bergeron, etc. so Mika's line can face easier matchups.

 

[McRanger92]

Brooks discussed ROR on the Post podcast today. He mentioned Gallant doesn't believe in having a checking line. Gallant likes three scoring lines. Brooks likes ROR. He believes the Rangers have become a soft team again. Reaves is gone. Hunt is gone. Blais has been a disappointment. Most of the players Drury brought into the organization in the summer of 2021 are except for Goodrow.

Brooks believes the Rangers should bulk up with size and strength for the playoffs because the Rangers will get smacked. The Devils too.

ROR is Eric Staal all over again. AV didn't know how to use Staal. Gallant will not use the player properly. Why bother?

Brooks dumped Kane for ROR.

Acting like Reaves made the Rangers a tough team is rich. He didnt do anything when he was here. Hunt and Blais did not even play in the playoffs last year, but the Rangers are soft now?

The Rangers arent soft physically because they hit plenty, their issue is that the top guys dont play with playoff intensity at all times, and it trickles down throughout the line up. If you want to tell me the Rangers are too soft in front of their own net? Ok, i can definitely buy that, but its not something ROR is going to help them with. If you want to tell me the Rangers need an element that will mix things up a little after the whistle, i buy that too. But again, ROR doesnt help with that either.

 

[TheDirtyH]

Not saying I want this but if you forced the high end rental route on me, I'd rather have ROR than Kane for the playoffs. ROR eats the tough minutes against Jordan Staal, Crosby, Bergeron, etc. so Mika's line can face easier matchups.

Definitely, can't hurt to have another faceoff man and a player who's that competitive. Ror is also great a small area plays a stopping pucks which we could use help in.

 

[duhmetreE]

Not saying I want this but if you forced the high end rental route on me, I'd rather have ROR than Kane for the playoffs. ROR eats the tough minutes against Jordan Staal, Crosby, Bergeron, etc. so Mika's line can face easier matchups.

100%

I've never understood the Kane love for this current team.

 

[RangersFan1994]

 

[SA16]

ROR? Drury already got fleeced by STL once. Do we need it to happen again?

 

[Lion Hound]

What are you willing to give up? I don't think he will coming cheap for obvious reasons

I think there is a lot of moving parts that will make this a buyers market forcing some GMs to move assets at a lesser rate of return then we've seen in years past.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Bad if the cap only goes up 1 mil this summer. Not worth the risk.

It's only 1 mill above an entry level guy, and a couple hundred grand more than Blais

Brooks discussed ROR on the Post podcast today. He mentioned Gallant doesn't believe in having a checking line. Gallant likes three scoring lines. Brooks likes ROR. He believes the Rangers have become a soft team again. Reaves is gone. Hunt is gone. Blais has been a disappointment. Most of the players Drury brought into the organization in the summer of 2021 are except for Goodrow.

Brooks believes the Rangers should bulk up with size and strength for the playoffs because the Rangers will get smacked. The Devils too.

ROR is Eric Staal all over again. AV didn't know how to use Staal. Gallant will not use the player properly. Why bother?

Brooks dumped Kane for ROR.

Plus his best years are gone behind him and he's currently injured.... big pass

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Acting like Reaves made the Rangers a tough team is rich. He didnt do anything when he was here. Hunt and Blais did not even play in the playoffs last year, but the Rangers are soft now?

The Rangers arent soft physically because they hit plenty, their issue is that the top guys dont play with playoff intensity at all times, and it trickles down throughout the line up. If you want to tell me the Rangers are too soft in front of their own net? Ok, i can definitely buy that, but its not something ROR is going to help them with. If you want to tell me the Rangers need an element that will mix things up a little after the whistle, i buy that too. But again, ROR doesnt help with that either.

Rangers will always be soft because they believe adding guys who play 6 mins of tough hockey a night provides toughness. The consistent problem this team has is that the top 6 is soft, our forwards are wallflower, ie Panarin, Zib, Kreider,Chytil,Kakko,Gauthier. The team doesn't have team toughness like say the bruins do. We are a reactionary team, we don't impose ourselves on anyone outside of Trouba, Lindgren and Goodrow. We pretty much have to be dragged into sticking up for someone and that says a lot about a team and their chances come playoff time. The good teams push first and together in this league.

 

[TheBPA]

The phrase "have been linked" should be fired into the sun. It is clickbait that means absolutely nothing.

 

[EdJovanovski]

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DOMI YES PLS

 

[bhamill]

DOMI YES PLS

Do you prefer him over Barbashev?
I think either is a decent depth move depending on the cost.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Do you prefer him over Barbashev?
I think either is a decent depth move depending on the cost.

Yes, Barbashev had a fantastic year last year but he dropped right back down to earth and it seems that was an outlier and not a steady progression. I think his brother is a very underrated prospect of ours though and it would be nice to reunite them, although his brother is a ways away from the NHL so who knows if they'd even ever play together.

Domi had a fantastic start to his career where it looked like he may develop into a perennial PPG player, but regressed since. But to be fair he bounced around from team to team without a clear role, and is still just 27yo and could definitely revitalize his career into what he looked like he was going to be earlier on. He's having a strong season on pace for 55pts. The main reason I like Domi is something I often complain about the Rangers, we have too many vanilla personalities. When's the last time you've heard a Ranger on Spittin Chiclets? Only guy was Reaves and we lost him. They're all shy, milquetoast guys. Domi brings that swagger, big personality, charisma, edge, etc. He's also diabetic and if you watch any of the YouTube videos about his story it shows he has great character and that it took a lot of determination to not allow that to derail his career. Could be a good role model for Kakko, especially since Kakko is such a reserved, quiet kid. Maybe having a big personality who he can relate to, will get him out of his shell more.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Yes, Barbashev had a fantastic year last year but he dropped right back down to earth and it seems that was an outlier and not a steady progression. I think his brother is a very underrated prospect of ours though and it would be nice to reunite them, although his brother is a ways away from the NHL so who knows if they'd even ever play together.

Domi had a fantastic start to his career where it looked like he may develop into a perennial PPG player, but regressed since. But to be fair he bounced around from team to team without a clear role, and is still just 27yo and could definitely revitalize his career into what he looked like he was going to be earlier on. He's having a strong season on pace for 55pts. The main reason I like Domi is something I often complain about the Rangers, we have too many vanilla personalities. When's the last time you've heard a Ranger on Spittin Chiclets? Only guy was Reaves and we lost him. They're all shy, milquetoast guys. Domi brings that swagger, big personality, charisma, edge, etc. He's also diabetic and if you watch any of the YouTube videos about his story it shows he has great character and that it took a lot of determination to not allow that to derail his career. Could be a good role model for Kakko, especially since Kakko is such a reserved, quiet kid. Maybe having a big personality who he can relate to, will get him out of his shell more.

Id buy on both Barbashev and Domi like the Rangers did with Copp and Vatrano last year. Upgrade over Blais Brodzinski and Gauthier

 

[GAGLine]

It's only 1 mill above an entry level guy, and a couple hundred grand more than Blais

It's actually 1.8 mil more than Blais because Blais isn't under contract for next season. An extra 1 mil is a lot if the cap doesn't go up more.

 

[McRanger92]

Rangers will always be soft because they believe adding guys who play 6 mins of tough hockey a night provides toughness. The consistent problem this team has is that the top 6 is soft, our forwards are wallflower, ie Panarin, Zib, Kreider,Chytil,Kakko,Gauthier. The team doesn't have team toughness like say the bruins do. We are a reactionary team, we don't impose ourselves on anyone outside of Trouba, Lindgren and Goodrow. We pretty much have to be dragged into sticking up for someone and that says a lot about a team and their chances come playoff time. The good teams push first and together in this league.

I dont necessarily disagree with the overall point but none of that has anything to do with the bolded. I feel like when people imply that we're not equipped for playoff hockey they just ignore the fact that we beat 2 far more experienced teams in the playoffs last year with largely the same team.

 

[haohmaru]

Rangers will always be soft because they believe adding guys who play 6 mins of tough hockey a night provides toughness. The consistent problem this team has is that the top 6 is soft, our forwards are wallflower, ie Panarin, Zib, Kreider,Chytil,Kakko,Gauthier. The team doesn't have team toughness like say the bruins do. We are a reactionary team, we don't impose ourselves on anyone outside of Trouba, Lindgren and Goodrow. We pretty much have to be dragged into sticking up for someone and that says a lot about a team and their chances come playoff time. The good teams push first and together in this league.

The other night I was paying particular attention to Kreider - the guy pulls up on every check if you watch him closely. He really doesn't hit anyone and has the opportunity to. A lot.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

It's actually 1.8 mil more than Blais because Blais isn't under contract for next season. An extra 1 mil is a lot if the cap doesn't go up more.

Yes but any player you put in Blais spot Costs the league minimum at the least and we aren't talking about a 4th liner for a mill, it's a top 9 player with speed and a shot.

The other night I was paying particular attention to Kreider - the guy pulls up on every check if you watch him closely. He really doesn't hit anyone and has the opportunity to. A lot.

He never did, I get it in the regular season but bring it out a bit more in playoffs, to be honest Zib is more physical than Kreider.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I dont necessarily disagree with the overall point but none of that has anything to do with the bolded. I feel like when people imply that we're not equipped for playoff hockey they just ignore the fact that we beat 2 far more experienced teams in the playoffs last year with largely the same team.

And their 3rd string goalies and Crosby out. When we got to the real test vs Tampa it was pretty obvious we were outmatched. Boston will do the same to us this year. Toronto has the same problem we do, they just don't have Shesterkin. We also had Copp, Vatrano and Motte, all guys who provide some level of physicality.

 

[Fitzy]

Concerned about Domi's ability to not take poorly timed minor penalties, but beyond that I can see why hed be a fit.

Still think 3LD is the largest problem area.

 

[egelband]

which one are you half joking about? Liking ROR or that the Blues owe us one. Because they do, you do and so do I.

Haha. I like ROR. That’s a fact.

 

[RangerBoy]

Concerned about Domi's ability to not take poorly timed minor penalties, but beyond that I can see why hed be a fit.

Still think 3LD is the largest problem area.

Both Vince and Mollie believe the a top 9 forward is a bigger need.

 

[Fitzy]

Both Vince and Mollie believe the a top 9 forward is a bigger need.

And I hear that- but Ben Harpur would be the worst blueliner we fielded in a meaningful playoff game since Stu Bickel.

That to me is a major issue with a cheap solution.

 

[duhmetreE]

Concerned about Domi's ability to not take poorly timed minor penalties, but beyond that I can see why hed be a fit.

Still think 3LD is the largest problem area.

Specifically a mobile defenseman. We have one of the best defenseman in the world but we are not strong enough, skating wise.

A big portion of our 'team speed' issues and transition stem from it as well imo.

Chychrun. Give up the 2 1sts + Jones?Hajek?. That's a hefty price.

 

[RangerBoy]

Acting like Reaves made the Rangers a tough team is rich. He didnt do anything when he was here. Hunt and Blais did not even play in the playoffs last year, but the Rangers are soft now?

The Rangers arent soft physically because they hit plenty, their issue is that the top guys dont play with playoff intensity at all times, and it trickles down throughout the line up. If you want to tell me the Rangers are too soft in front of their own net? Ok, i can definitely buy that, but its not something ROR is going to help them with. If you want to tell me the Rangers need an element that will mix things up a little after the whistle, i buy that too. But again, ROR doesnt help with that either.

The kind of players Brooks is talking about acquiring aren’t easily available in trades. You have to draft and develop those players or get lucky in a trade for a younger player.