Speculation: Roster Building Thread II (2022-23): The Puck is Prepared to be Mounted

[bbny]

Having stepped through and done some estimations (Chytl at 3-4 years at $4M, Miller at 2 years x $3.5-4M, Lafreniere at 2 years by $2.5M), I don't see the math working right now. Not even by plugging the other holes in the roster with ELC players.

Unless the cap goes up more than the initially expected amount of $1M, which there was chatter it could actually go up by like $4M, someone with a decent salary would have to go. It is kind of shaping up to be a Chytil vs Goodrow argument.

 

[McRanger92]

I think most everyone would agree that would be the preferred route. With that said the team is close to beating capped out as is. $80,833,158. Currently with approx $1,616,842 in projected space.

They have $3,427,778 coming off in dead cap space (Shatty, GerardI, DeAngelo)

They have another $4,525,000 in expiring UFA contracts. (Vesey, Blais, Harper, Halak)

So they free up $7,952,778, but will need to pay a backup. And who knows what Drury does with Blais?

In RFA’s they have 6 active roster players that need to be re signed.
Chytil
Lafreniere
Kravtsov
Miller
Gauthier
Hajek

That’s going to chew up the remaining cap space real quick. So “If” Drury gets a player with term that would have to mean Salary going out. All of the big salaries nave NMC’s.

From a money situation, it’s likely Drury adds a rental player or two using the picks and maybe even one or two of the expiring RFA’s.

Agreed. Its going to be rentals once again. Especially with multiple firsts, the Rangers priority moving forward is going to be retaining their own young players, leaving very little room for them to integrate draft picks into the lineup until the NMC guys start to go. Othmann/Cuylle/Berard/Robertson are going to be the next wave, but the Rangers are in a spot now where they need to supplement the current roster to win now.

Not saying trade picks like drunken sailors, but they need a forward and a D imo and they shouldnt hesitate to trade futures or young players they dont see as part of the future sadly (Jones/Krav)

 

[irishlaxburger2]

Our PP could be 30% and number one in the league and people would still clamor for changes to get Kakko/Laf/Chytil on to PP1.

Well yeah, it's how kids develop.

And the kids developing is literally what this franchise needs long term.

 

[McRanger92]

Having stepped through and done some estimations (Chytl at 3-4 years at $4M, Miller at 2 years x $3.5-4M, Lafreniere at 2 years by $2.5M), I don't see the math working right now. Not even by plugging the other holes in the roster with ELC players.

Unless the cap goes up more than the initially expected amount of $1M, which there was chatter it could actually go up by like $4M, someone with a decent salary would have to go. It is kind of shaping up to be a Chytil vs Goodrow argument.

I think the cap will jump the 4M but Chytil vs. Goodorw could not be an easier decision. Lets just hope Gallant doesnt have a say.

I do think Chytil puts himself in a position this year to show that he's invaluable to the Rangers. Mika-Chytil-Trocheck is the center depth weve craved for the Rangers as long as I can remember

 

[duhmetreE]

Do you know how I know he wanted to sign with Washington? He signed with Washington. Do you know how I know he probably wanted a multi year deal? He signed a multiyear deal. Get over it.

So, Drury dropped the ball. I agree.

 

[Savant]

So, Drury dropped the ball. I agree.

If Drury dropped the ball then all the others GMs in the league, besides Capitals, did too.

All you are doing is crying over spilled milk here. Grow up

 

[Ruggs225]

Did you watch the game last night?
Our pp was 50% and was absolutely dominant on the one that failed to score.
You don’t mess with that.

I want the kids on the pp, but pp1 has been showing they deserve the time right now.

Actually missed the game last night.

But still the numbers show they are below avg this year at #17 at 30 games which is a bigger sample than just one game last night.

Like i said, w can always go back to this lineup, but why nit try something fresh. It just might work. And just because it looked good last night does not mean that it cant look better overall. Both units even.

Our PP could be 30% and number one in the league and people would still clamor for changes to get Kakko/Laf/Chytil on to PP1.

But its not. Its below league avg overall.

If it was 30% and leading the league then its a different story.

 

[DialUp]

Right now, we are at a .583 points gained pace. To make the playoffs, we need to be a bit better at around .597 year end average to get to 98 points (if 98 is the realistic cutoff. That means from here on out, we need to play at a .605 points percentage clip. These four wins may seem like we are trending towards that, but overall, we need to be better than the beginning of the year. Our current state strength of schedule the rest of the way is tough, might be the toughest of everyone, so good luck to Gallant.

 

[QJL]

With Chytils emergence and Miller and Laf needing raises I have no idea what the hell you do with the roster. Something is going to have to give with Panarin or Kreider.

I like Trocheck a lot, but it’s looking like it would’ve be been better to sign a vet to a short term contract that could play 2 or 3C.

There’s going to be some really difficult decisions in the summer.

If the cap goes to $86.5M, we can sign a Chytil to something like $4.5Mx4 and Laf/Miller at $3Mx2. It works.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

I wonder what LHD defensemen we could target to bring in on the cheap. Who's available and who would fit?

I'm not talking pie in the sky scenarios, I'm talking someone we could get for a 3rd rounder or something.

Hajek is a disaster and Drury would be best served, if they're not going to play Jones, to make a move to bring someone in sooner rather than later.

Maybe we could trade Hajek+3rd for someone making similar salary so it's not ruining the deadline accruals.

 

[duhmetreE]

If Drury dropped the ball then all the others GMs in the league, besides Capitals, did too.

All you are doing is crying over spilled milk here. Grow up

No one is crying. I'm pointing out another bad decision by Drury. Why would I care what others are doing. I'm talking about our GM.

Grow up? WTF are you talking about? If you can't have a civil conversation maybe you shouldn't engage? Give yourself a timeout

 

[RangerBoy]

Not great.

 

[McRanger92]

Right now, we are at a .583 points gained pace. To make the playoffs, we need to be a bit better at around .597 year end average to get to 98 points (if 98 is the realistic cutoff. That means from here on out, we need to play at a .605 points percentage clip. These four wins may seem like we are trending towards that, but overall, we need to be better than the beginning of the year. Our current state strength of schedule the rest of the way is tough, might be the toughest of everyone, so good luck to Gallant.

We were playing better at the beginning of the year and not winning so which is it? Just do you best to get 2 points that night and worry about tomorrow tomorrow. That should be the team's mindset.

 

[bleedblue94]

I would have given him that same contract. I assume that was the sticking point for Drury. Either way, if Drury wanted Lindgren, he would have signed him

All things being equal, playing with your brother would put it over the top

Put the opportunity for PT would be the tipping point for the player. Do you think you're getting more pt or have the chance to steal the jump from Igor or keumper? Easy

 

[DialUp]

We were playing better at the beginning of the year and not winning so which is it? Just do you best to get 2 points that night and worry about tomorrow tomorrow. That should be the team's mindset.

Not playing good enough. If you don't win, you didn't score. We lost to bad teams with bad goalies. Our fault. If they need to score 4 or 5 goals a game to ensure a win then we better damned start scoring 6.

 

[Off Sides]

Not great.

Assuming the PA and NHL do not compromise on a Cap raise, and no one waives their clause, it looks like they are back to either Trade/Buyout Goodrow or Trade Lindgren.

Not developing Krav/Jones at least enough to either see if they could replace the outgoing for next season, or raise their trade value enough to do so, is likely going to come back to bite them.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Not great.

Goodrow buyout seems like it might be necessary if this is true

 

[duhmetreE]

Goodrow buyout seems like it might be necessary if this is true

Even with KAM and Laffy coming in much cheaper? How much could they cost at 2 year bridges?

Chytil might cost more though.

 

[B17 Apricots]

Double post

 

[Raspewtin]

if you're going to trade for another LHD they desperately have to be a good puck mover. that is a top priority. Fox can't do it all and it's a big part of why our transition is godawful. Trouba sucks at passing. Lindgren sucks with the puck period. Schneider is improving there and pretty good skating with it. KAM is hit and miss. We were hoping Jones would make an impact but he hasn't, and I believe he was given chances too, he just didn't perform.

I don't think it needs to ball out on a top pair D but our puck moving sucks ostrich nuts and we desperately need improvement

 

[B17 Apricots]

Guys I wouldn't get too worked up about the numbers here. It would've been an issue if someone broke out like a superstar... we're working with 17.6 million in cap space this off-season , thats without any cap increase. You gotta figure a bridge deal for Chytil and K'Andre wont be more than 5 each. Looking at what Chytil and Kakko got, how much is Laf going to get ? The 3 main RFAs shouldn't cost more than 12 million if they bridge them, and that might be a little generous.. could be closer to 10. Bare minimum, should be at least 5 million to work with, plus whatever the cap increases by. They'll have 8 guys set in the top 9, 5 guys set on defense. Need a back up goalie. Main roles are set, the open spots will be cheap to fill. If they keep Blais, Gauthier, Hajek and/or Kravstov theyre not getting raises. Brodz has been good in a 4th line role, he's got another year. Vesey has been fine, he was signed on a minimum deal. Hopefully Drury doesn't turn around and re-sign him for too much money. Those guys are available every off-season. Corey Perry has spent the last few years as a solid, cheap bottom 6 player. Same thing for Spezza in Toronto before he retired. Mark Giordano makes 800k a year now. Effective bottom line players are available for cheap

 

[duhmetreE]

Guys I wouldn't get too worked up about the numbers here. It would've been an issue if someone broke out like a superstar... we're working with 17.6 million in cap space this off-season , thats without any cap increase. You gotta figure a bridge deal for Chytil and K'Andre wont be more than 5 each. Looking at what Chytil and Kakko got, how much is Laf going to get ? The 3 main RFAs shouldn't cost more than 12 million if they bridge them, and that might be a little generous.. could be closer to 10. Bare minimum, should be at least 5 million to work with, plus whatever the cap increases by. They'll have 8 guys set in the top 9, 5 guys set on defense. Need a back up goalie. Main roles are set, the open spots will be cheap to fill. If they keep Blais, Gauthier, Hajek and/or Kravstov theyre not getting raises. Brodz has been good in a 4th line role, he's got another year. Vesey has been fine, he was signed on a minimum deal. Hopefully Drury doesn't turn around and re-sign him for too much money. Those guys are available every off-season. Corey Perry has spent the last few years as a solid, cheap bottom 6 player. Same thing for Spezza in Toronto before he retired. Mark Giordano makes 800k a year now. Effective bottom line players are available for cheap

I don't think KAM is anywhere close to 5. Closer to Lindgrens deal.

Laffy should be similar to what Kakko and Chytil got.

Chytil may become the issue.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Even with KAM and Laffy coming in much cheaper? How much could they cost at 2 year bridges?

Chytil might cost more though.

Even with both on cheap bridge deals, which is probably all they are worth signing to at the moment I think a buyout would still be needed.

if you're going to trade for another LHD they desperately have to be a good puck mover. that is a top priority. Fox can't do it all and it's a big part of why our transition is godawful. Trouba sucks at passing. Lindgren sucks with the puck period. Schneider is improving there and pretty good skating with it. KAM is hit and miss. We were hoping Jones would make an impact but he hasn't, and I believe he was given chances too, he just didn't perform.

I don't think it needs to ball out on a top pair D but our puck moving sucks ostrich nuts and we desperately need improvement

I wonder what the price would be for Ghost, he'd be perfect for us.

 

[redwhiteandblue]

It seems a little crazy to me (and I love the guy) that Lindgren never gets talked about as the odd man out. At some point there is a re-configuring coming on the backend, and Schneider's ascension (albeit even on the other side) has opened up some possibilities back there. I think we could cash in some chips and move some salary when the time comes.

I get the same exact pause from Lindgren that I did Girardi, wouldn't hurt to move on and let Key move up, maybe move Schneider over? There's possibilities.

 

[Kodiak]

Assuming the PA and NHL do not compromise on a Cap raise, and no one waives their clause, it looks like they are back to either Trade/Buyout Goodrow or Trade Lindgren.

Not developing Krav/Jones at least enough to either see if they could replace the outgoing for next season, or raise their trade value enough to do so, is likely going to come back to bite them.

Goodrow wouldn't be a bad buyout. He would have a $3.6m cap hit in year 4, but the other 7 years are all under $1.3m. Lindgren is much more valuable to the team and costs less against the cap.

Fun fact: the Rangers have had at least one player named Ryan on their active roster going back to November of 2005 when Ryan Hollweg was recalled from Hartford. With Reaves traded and Carpenter in Hartford, Lindgren is the sole remaining Ryan.