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Speculation: Roster Building Thread I (2021 Offseason) - And so it begins...

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Off Sides said:
What if Zbad say he requires 7 years, and he'll just enforce his no movement clause right up until his contract ends naturally next off-season if they try to trade him?

Not saying it will come down to that, usually these things work out with some sort of compromise, yet the Rangers only real leverage with Zbad it to say that's just too high, can we trade you or do you want to play out your contract?

edit: Should mention though I agree with you, normally if he were a UFA I'm not interested in anything that brings him past 33-34 years old as "arbitrary" as that may or may not be.
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I would believe that there would be a team or teams out there who would like to bring Zibanejad in and offer him a contract almost immediately. They would be teams looking to win in the next 3-4 years, say Colorado or Vegas as examples. There may be others. I would ask the player where he would like to play after determining what teams would be interested and work out a sign and trade with one of those teams.

The Rangers will know what his contract requests are. They can share that with the team(s) that are interested and if the new team(s) and Zibanejad are close they may pull the trigger.

That way the player has financial security going in to next season when he could get hurt and lose market value. There is risk in Zibanejad going in to next season without an extension as well.

We've mentioned Vegas multiple times but a team like Colorado would be a home run for a player like Zibanejad too.
 
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Stole this post from the Blueshirt Banter comment section. Eichel trending in the right direction, Zibanejad not so much.
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Would like to see Eichel's play after neck surgery, before unloading a pile of assets for him.
 
Loki Dog 74 said:
Honestly - 100% dependent on the cost to acquire - I’m fine with Eichel. I think he’s a gamer. I think he’d bring some fire and want to win at all costs mentality with him. I don’t have concerns about his character based on the Buffalo situation. Look how bad it’s gotten - virtually every good player they have has stated they want out.

Eichel is the youngest point per game top flight center this team has had any hope of acquiring in a long time. He is an elite talent, and I actually believe we haven’t even seen the best of him due to Buffalo’s constant shit show. I feel he has even more to give.

I would not move all of these pieces but the list of pieces I would be willing to part with would look like:

1st Rounder (whatever year)
Kreider (wishful thinking)
Buch (reluctantly)
Lundkvist (reluctantly)
Strome
Chytil
Jones
One of KAM or Krav BUT the deal would have to be smaller and more reasonable. Like Strome/Krav/1st that’s it.

I do think Eichel would actually thrive here and, if DQ is sticking around, he won his only NCAA title coaching Eich.
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Quinn and Eichel lost to Providence, which had Kevin Rooney on it, if I remember correctly. Eichel's injury situation and desire to be moved drive his price down, IMO.
 
NYR Viper said:
I would believe that there would be a team or teams out there who would like to bring Zibanejad in and offer him a contract almost immediately. They would be teams looking to win in the next 3-4 years, say Colorado or Vegas as examples. There may be others. I would ask the player where he would like to play after determining what teams would be interested and work out a sign and trade with one of those teams.

The Rangers will know what his contract requests are. They can share that with the team(s) that are interested and if the new team(s) and Zibanejad are close they may pull the trigger.

That way the player has financial security going in to next season when he could get hurt and lose market value. There is risk in Zibanejad going in to next season without an extension as well.

We've mentioned Vegas multiple times but a team like Colorado would be a home run for a player like Zibanejad too.
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Yet one has to assume if he is looking for x amount of years, and/or x millions per, whatever the threshold may be, those team too may not want, or can not fit that extension, at least without sending back cap hit(s) where the Rangers may not want what is required to come back.

At some point I think it becomes the Rangers extend him to whatever that threshold is, or they just let him play out his final year. Perhaps they revisit it at the deadline.
 
Eichel is clearly better than Zibanejad, but between the injury, cap concerns and acquisition cost, they should pivot to some of the "cheaper" center options. Larkin, Lindholm, Cirelli, Dubois, Hertl, etc. depending on who becomes available
 
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Crease said:
Would like to see Eichel's play after neck surgery, before unloading a pile of assets for him.
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I think most agree here. The question is, what is a pile of assets. I am probably more okay than others moving a guy like Chytil + secondary assets (read not Lundqvist, Kravtsov, Schneider). Georgiev, Howden, Gauthier, Jones, Reunanen, Barron. Those guys are on the table.
 
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Off Sides said:
What if Zbad say he requires 7 years, and he'll just enforce his no movement clause right up until his contract ends naturally next off-season if they try to trade him?

Not saying it will come down to that, usually these things work out with some sort of compromise, yet the Rangers only real leverage with Zbad it to say that's just too high, can we trade you or do you want to play out your contract?

edit: Should mention though I agree with you, normally if he were a UFA I'm not interested in anything that brings him past 33-34 years old as "arbitrary" as that may or may not be.
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7 years for Mika is a non starter for me.
 
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Ranger Spice said:
Is that Mickey8Rangers guy on Twitter a true insider? He's saying things...
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Just checked him out, doesn’t seem to be saying anything outlandish or out of the ordinary so doubt that guy has any sources. I’d trust Dagoons sources at this point for Twitter rando like that.
 
Crease said:
Would like to see Eichel's play after neck surgery, before unloading a pile of assets for him.
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This is also a point of contention as it comes to a trade. Eichel wants this specific neck procedure done that doesn’t have a lot of history. Would the Rangers be ok with him getting that type of surgery or are they not comfortable with it?
 
RE: Zbad next contract. I would say to Mika “you want the years or the money?” There’s gotta be some compromise here, can’t just be the player saying “I want this or else” like the Rangers don’t have things to offer to him. He loves the city, the team and we’re on the cusp of great things here - how much is that worth to him? He either gets a higher AAV at 5 years or a lower AAV at 7 would be my play.
 
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